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4141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why hesitate ???? on: October 18, 2020, 09:30:44 AM
You invested in a ICO or IEO project at 1$ per token or coin and the price surge up to 3$ but because you see potential in the project you decide to hold and after few months the price goes down to 0.45$ and after four years and the token surge back to 3$, my question is why the wait? You hold a coin for years just to go back to it's ATH (All Time High) ? And most times majority of coins don't go back to their ATH ever again, what could you learn from this? Never ever hesitate to take profits, even if the project is the best ever, take profits, invest again when price is down because believe me, the price will surely go down

if humans are programmed to see the future won't we all be rich?
Because people become greedy when they see the price can surge up to $3, and they will think that the price will go up higher.
If they don't sell the coin or token, they will lose the opportunity to sell at a high price.
We see many times about that, and maybe we have that experience before.
It is why we need to sell the coin or token if the price can jump to the highest price, so we can take the initial money plus with the profit.
You do not need to wait for more because the price itself is already increasing higher.
After the price touches the highest price, it will go down and sometimes, the price will drop significantly, and if we already sold the coin or token, we will have a chance to buy back in a big amount.
If we can do that over and over, we will be able to make more profit.
4142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: THE MOST PAINFUL DAY IN MY BETTING CAREER on: October 18, 2020, 08:01:20 AM
I am sure many of us have had moments like this. Moments when we're so close to winning and then it just slips off our hands. Those are terrible moments. I had a moment just like this back in 2017 when I had an accumulated odd of 51 and I placed a bet of $20 with the hope of making a whooping sum of a thousand dollars in just a short time only for it to be dashed by just a team that didn't play according to my prediction.
It was a very painful moment especially because I had borrowed the $20 for the bet but it taught me because I learnt my lesson the hard way. I took two lessons away from that day.
1. Never borrow to place a bet
2. Always bet only what you can afford to lose
These two rules have been guiding my betting over the years and I've made quite a lot of money now  Grin

Good for you to come out of the borrow-gamble-win-return loop hole. It's very much necessary for a person to consider loan as not even an option for gambling purposes. Most money when taken through loans and borrowing are lost in gambling, because psychologically there's a huge pressure when we are playing with other's money as we think if we lose we have to pay them from own pockets and earnings from future. But when we play with our own money, we have a sense of calmness! And more often than not, this calmness helps really!
It is not recommended to borrow other people's money, especially if that money will be used for playing gambling because we don't know if we can win the game or lose the money.
You can play gambling with your money, no matter how much money you will use.
So when you lose that money, you will not have to pay for other people, and you can get the additional money from the other source of income.
No matter if you have good control and other things that will be needed in gambling, you can not avoid losing money in gambling because playing gambling means risking the money without we know when we can win or lose.
But you should not use the money for just playing gambling, and maybe it is better to allocate some money to be used for playing gambling.
There is a chance to lose the money in gambling, so you can imagine if you borrow the money and lose it at the gambling table.
4143  Economy / Gambling / Re: Pretty sure Freebitco.in was hacked or emails leaked/sold -attn wetsuit on: October 18, 2020, 05:31:51 AM
The info from @OP is not clear, so we don't know what is happening with him.
I guess he will not come back and explain to us because I am not sure that freebitco.in getting hacked and the customer email has been sold because I don't receive an email from them.
Besides that, I don't use freebitco.in to play multiply or clicking on the rolls too often, so I guess that my account will be okay.
But I think we need to make sure if our account is not compromised, and it is better to check our account and change the password if necessary.
Nowadays, activating 2FA will be necessary to prevent the hacking that we see happen on many websites.

His active any time he can come back and tell us exactly what happen to his email and Why he think its compromise .

Secure the email by adding  other securities it will be harder for any one  to  enter to his email even they know the password if its true that it is compromise or change the password he use in freebitco.in if that was the problem .
Although he is active, I am not sure he will come back here and explain what he means by his email because he must be busy to solve his problem Grin
I hope that he does not have trouble playing on the freebitco.in as we know that site is one of the old crypto websites that are still online until now.
And I am sure that the owner of the freebitco.in still maintain his site to still running.

Freebitco.in gives the members alternative to secure their account, and I think he can activate 2FA.
By activating 2FA, I think his account will be more secure, and he can prevent the hacker that wants to break his account.
That suggestion is not just for him, but that will be for every people who use freebitco.in.
And activating 2FA is not only for freebitco.in, but it is also recommended for another website that we use.
4144  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the 50% rule? on: October 17, 2020, 07:41:44 AM
We can say about many predictions that will happen with bitcoin, but the truth is we don't know for sure because bitcoin moves are unpredictable.
Maybe we can predict so close to bitcoin price moves, but it is hard to accurately predict the bitcoin movements.
But if we can stay calm when the price starts to rally, we will have the right time to sell bitcoin at a high price, although the price still increases.
If we can take the profit while we can, we don't have to worried if we miss the chance to sell at the high price because we always have the opportunity to sell at the right time.
I am sure many of us prepare for the downtrend after the price increase to get a lower price.
Hopefully, the next week, the situations will be changed to see another high price and it will continue to increase.
4145  Economy / Gambling / Re: Pretty sure Freebitco.in was hacked or emails leaked/sold -attn wetsuit on: October 17, 2020, 03:11:58 AM
The info from @OP is not clear, so we don't know what is happening with him.
I guess he will not come back and explain to us because I am not sure that freebitco.in getting hacked and the customer email has been sold because I don't receive an email from them.
Besides that, I don't use freebitco.in to play multiply or clicking on the rolls too often, so I guess that my account will be okay.
But I think we need to make sure if our account is not compromised, and it is better to check our account and change the password if necessary.
Nowadays, activating 2FA will be necessary to prevent the hacking that we see happen on many websites.
4146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did anyone bet on the sharks yet ? on: October 17, 2020, 02:08:13 AM
Having money involved doesn't make it gambling. If I stake other valuable things aside money (like a banana, apple, meat, etc) to prove my skills/reputation or how good and trusted I'm in my predictions and I lose it for not being correct, is that still gambling?
Yes, I think that is still gambling because you risk something, and no matter if you win or lose, you still gamble.
And no matter what involving in that risk, that is gambling.

Would you then call forex, stock,  precious metals trading, etc gambling? The traders clearly risk money to bet on price of currencies and commodities.
If those are gambling, then lot of other things I didn't mention here could easily be classified as gambling.
I hope you are not basing you definition/meaning on online dictionary definitions. They certainly can be proven wrong
I would call it's gambling if you don't have enough knowledge about trading.
But if you have skills and are willing to learn more about trading, that will not be the same as gambling because you can analyze the market, and you can find the right way to enter the market and sell the coins when it increases.
I would agree with what @dunfida says that will depend on how we approach those things.
But we can not blame people if they call gambling because what we think will not be the same as them.
But we might agree that gambling has money involved with those things, and we risk that money to get the other money.
Geez, the meaning of gambling can be different between one person to another person.
Let people decide if that is gambling or not because they will have their opinion regarding gambling and accept what they said about gambling will be good for both people.
4147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just discover possible reason why btc is safe heaven on: October 16, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
you have created so many topics all over the forum,are you really doing this for the sake of finding knowledge?
Sorry just curious because i have been seeing you in all section almost with existing or new thread created.
It can be true about every strong asset in the world in long term, isn't it?
That is if you really understand what OP means,because i find it hard to understand.
though Bitcoin is really safe heaven if you are willing to Hold longer than what other expected.

maybe what the OP meant was, holding bitcoin would be better and safer than other cryptos. when someone holds bitcoin, never sell by cutting losses, because bitcoin will definitely go up again and soon give the holder a big profit. what is clear, bitcoin never promises profit to anyone who holds it, but when compared to other cryptos, I also prefer to stick with bitcoin. "safe heaven"? may also Grin
I will agree if holding bitcoin would be better than the altcoin because when bitcoin moves, the altcoin will go behind bitcoin, so that means, if bitcoin goes down, the altcoin will go down, and sometimes, the drop of the altcoin will be deep.
And if bitcoin can rise, the altcoin will need more time to increase.
So if you hold bitcoin and not sell in the downtrend, but you buy back bitcoin, you will have a chance to sell at a high price.
But I don't think that bitcoin is safe heaven because we know that the price has fluctuated, and the price can moves to any price without notice.
But people can say bitcoin is a safe haven for them, including what the @OP want to say, but there will be people who don't call bitcoin as a safe haven, and they prefer to say that gold is the safe haven for them.
4148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Covid 19 on: October 16, 2020, 10:50:32 AM
I am a businessman, I get a lot of income from my business, and I leave the world of trading, bounties and investing in crypto.  But after Covid came today, I decided to return to the crypto world, and I hope to have a good profit here.  what if i invest my business in bitcoin? is bitcoin still good?
From my perspective, bitcoin can still help investors like you earn a considerable profit because even we are in the middle of the pandemic, bitcoin still shows stability and growth that it doesn't get affected by the economic downfall. Many people also say that bitcoin will continue to increase its price, and it will pass $12,000 before the end of the year, so it's still good to hold our bitcoins in the long term.
That is right.
The investor can still profit from bitcoin, but the investor should believe that bitcoin will do the best for them in the long term.
No matter if bitcoin is down, the price will increase again, and it will increase in the long term.
Maybe they need to wait by hold their bitcoin for some period, but the result will be perfect for the investor because they will make a lot of money in the future.
But unfortunately, many people still doubt with bitcoin, and they say that bitcoin can not increase high.
We will get the same as the investor if we can hold bitcoin and not sell the bitcoin if the price does not jump to the higher price.

I would suggest to @OP to continue to invest in bitcoin and hold it.
Don't panic if the price is down because he will get another opportunity to buy back Bitcoin at a lower price.
4149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did anyone bet on the sharks yet ? on: October 16, 2020, 08:03:23 AM
Maybe after betting on the sharks, that observation will use the other animal.
You mean to bet on the seals, dolphins, whales, etc. that they have tagged? It would be interesting too. Many people are into gambling, and maybe the boredom that came from the pandemic could be alleviated.

They have yet to decide on what they are going to do with their options. In the article, there is still no official thing that happened between MyBookie and Ocearch. Even if they were to sponsor them financially, it seems they still have yet to consider it.

I can't seem to find a more updated article about their partnership. I hope they find a way to make it work. It would be fun to participate.
Yes, that can be an attractive reality show from the animal, and I think that can be another form to get a new entertain to people.
Maybe people can also learn about how they live, where they usually migrate in one season when they can have a place where they can call home and other things.
I think that can invite people to watch the show, and they can also give the money as donations or whatever the name to help that animal.
Yes, it will kill boredom if there is a television show that collaborates with the "gambling casino," which can entertain people.
I think that can touch people who often gamble to place bets on that animal because I guess it is a new idea to gamble using animals but with different views.
But I don't know about that, especially which company that will start that, but if that can start, I guess that can be a new thing for the audience at their home.
4150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mind Blown Gambling Facts on: October 16, 2020, 06:12:32 AM
This might could turn into different if that guy will going to lose. You know that base on the story of the gamblers that losses their mind in the gambling like betting to the extent level to which it did result on killing themselves after losing in the bet. Yes, cockfight here in our place is very common and there is a guy who no money and betting huge as it could be his final option to live life if he will going to win and to kill himself if he will going to lose. The result? He did kill himself because he could not pay the bet he raise when it was called upon. He just shoot his head and then died in the cockpit arena.

This should not be the kind of gambler we wanted to see because this kind of betting is a desperate way and it should be controlled as early as possible to find a way to remove all the stress in the hopes of winning and taking back all the money losses that has been accumulated.
Although I never met the guy before he suicide, I already heard about a husband who punches his wife or his parent because of gambling.
His wife doesn't give him the money he will use to play gambling, and the games he played are card games.
His neighborhood already knows that guy is a gambler, a heavy gambler, and still gambling until his wife left him.

It is a lesson for us about how dangerously addicted gambling if he becomes a heavily addicted gambler.
We must take this as a lesson from other people always to avoid playing gambling too long.

Everything matters with luck when you are dealing with gambling.Good thing that he had won that spin and if not then for sure he would really be hanging on a tree due to extreme depression and stress.

To think on where he would go home if he had sold everything including his clothes? Where he would start up? unless if his loved ones will save him up but for sure it wont really be an easy situation
and lots of regrets and blame will really be taken place.

These facts stated on op does show on how possibly people do make out impossible things or we didnt really expect for them to do.
Yeah, that is why he is the luckiest person at that time because he really made a lot of money from gambling after he risks all of his mines.
We don't have to think about where he would go home if he had sold everything because that moment is not happening.
We never know what he will do if he loses everything, but maybe suicide will be the last thing that he will think to end everything.
I hope that he can take a lesson for what he did.
We can not deny that luck will be the important factor that we must have in gambling.
4151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Small dip in BTC price after Trump stimulus tweet on: October 15, 2020, 04:25:35 PM
To be honest, I do not think too much about the small dip in bitcoin in these few days because I feel that the bitcoin price will be back to the high price.
Even if the bitcoin price is down near $11k, it will bounce up to the high price. And it is proved that now the bitcoin price can back to the $11,400.
Bitcoin price now seems to have a fast move because the order buys and order sells change differently than a few days ago. So we have a chance to see the increases in this weekend or next week.
I hope that the price will still go up and break $11,500 because that price will be difficult to break for now.
But I still prepare myself, just in case the price is down because of the flash dump that can happen to the market. I am sure that people will take their profit because of this increase.
4152  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 Pitibet.io ⭐ SPORTS BETTING | NEW SPORTSBOOK 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: October 15, 2020, 03:10:22 PM
First, welcome aboard to this forum, I hope you can enjoy your stay here, and you can get many members on your site.
Second, I visit your site, and I see a different thing than the other website.
And I see that the horse racing & greyhounds are available on your site, so I think that can attract people to try to bet on your site.
But unfortunately, they need to wait until the next year to try to place their bet because I see that on your site, it will be available in 2021.
I also experience the same as @Panjul07. I am using a laptop with Chrome+win10.
It seems not all people in all countries can join your site because of those restrictions.
I am sure you will have an update or news to be shared with us on this forum, and I am sure we like to wait for that.
I hope that KYC will not implement it on your site for the crypto user because we don't want to document to other third parties.
4153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did anyone bet on the sharks yet ? on: October 15, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
Having money involved doesn't make it gambling. If I stake other valuable things aside money (like a banana, apple, meat, etc) to prove my skills/reputation or how good and trusted I'm in my predictions and I lose it for not being correct, is that still gambling?
Yes, I think that is still gambling because you risk something, and no matter if you win or lose, you still gamble.
And no matter what involving in that risk, that is gambling.

The idea of this is great just because they Don’t have my complete control with the outcome, and it’s probably for the best for the environment. I have no idea that this existed, but it’s cool.

The Ocearch.org Is not only for a great white shark but also for other marine animals. They have tagged the animals so they could monitor them.  As checking the site, they have 416 animals tagged. I think this deserves more exposure, and just because of the data, you could get off from it.

I hope this experiment for the gambling part would be beneficial entirely for the ocearch.org
Maybe after betting on the sharks, that observation will use the other animal.
If that is for the observation, I think that can be acceptable, but I don't know about the money involved in that betting.
Maybe if that organization needs help, they can ask for donations for the government or people who want to donate to those institutions, and not using gambling to ask for the donation.
I think that will be a good reason to search for help in the donation because I am sure that many people will donate to help that animal, and I am sure that the amount of the money that will donate will also be larger.
But if they think that betting on the animal to ask people donations is a good idea, they can continue to do that to attract more people to gamble.
But they need to explain to people about the purposes behind that betting.
4154  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading in the pandemic on: October 15, 2020, 02:45:35 AM
Of course, small investors will be very disturbed in a pandemic like now because the urgent need due to Covid-19 can trigger them to panic and sell all their assets even though this is down and can fill more bags with potential coins, but there is power for them to panic quickly. The current condition of food stocks is more important to survive the nose than to maintain their investment which is not necessarily profitable.
Even if the small investor is disturbed because of the pandemic, I am sure that they are okay, and they can still trade at this moment.
They need to have a strong mind and make sure themselves that this pandemic will be over soon.
Some trader sells their asset because of the need for the money, but I believe that they still have the other asset, and I am sure that they will continue to trade to make a profit.
I believe that behind the hard moment can trigger us to have a secret power to survive in hard situations, and that will happen to trader or people who want to try hard.
It is hard for everyone, but I am sure that we can stay strong behind this pandemic, and we will still survive.
The pandemic will not stay for a long time, and we will be okay until the vaccine can distribute to us, and everything will be better.
4155  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is bitcoin just for investors on: October 14, 2020, 10:16:20 AM
No, I don't think bitcoin is only for investors, even if the price still volatile.
You can use bitcoin, and every people can use bitcoin because bitcoin is not just for some people who have a lot of money.
Every investment will have the risk that we must realize and know how to minimize the risk. Even for the investor, they need to face those risks too.
But as long as you know how to reduce the risk, you will not have worried because no matter what it is, the risk will always be there.
If the price changes every minute, that is because many people want to buy bitcoin and sell it again to make a profit.

You can do that too if you want, but before you do that, it is better to learn how to analyze the bitcoin price movement to buy at a low price or downtrend.
You can hold it for some time after you bought bitcoin, and if you can buy bitcoin at a low price, you can calm until the time to sell your bitcoin comes.
4156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mind Blown Gambling Facts on: October 14, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
That is the most stupid thing i ever heard,Even His Clothes?imagine how Fool it is to do such action?how can he be so sure that He will win in Single bet?

i would rather stop gambling than doing that.
Never in my entire life that i will gamble my everything even in real life because i give importance in every small thing specially when it talks in living.
I think he feels desperate with his previous bet, so he might say to himself that it is my last bet, and I want to bet with everything I have, including my clothes Grin
And suddenly, he wins on that games.
But yes, that does not make sense if he bet even with his clothes, but we don't know his reason to do that.
We also don't know if that is a single bet or accumulating from many bets.
But I don't think that he can feel that his last bet will be his fortune to win the game, and I only think that he wins because of his luck come at the right time.
All in all, he really the luckiest person who can win on that game and get a lot of money.
But I believe that we can win in one last shot at the end of our time, and our luck comes to us.
4157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♠️♥️ Peergame ♦️♣️ New Game Dice Now Rolling! | No Deposit | Instant Payout on: October 14, 2020, 06:44:25 AM
I have not tried your casino but looks like a good one and I will try it for sure, I wonder what happened as this thread has huge gaps in posting from you so I was wondering what's wrong like why is there so less activity here.

I visited the site but the dice game has almost no bets going on in the all-bets tab which does not reflect a lot of positiveness to be honest because I don't want to be the solo player making bets on a casino alone.

Maybe the website is still under development so I guess that is the reason for such strange things but overall I like the design and website seems very smooth to play at but you need to bring some more activity maybe do some promotions and bring more players.

Its obvious that there no much interest when it comes to on chain games just as usual where people are really fan on sticking out into those common casinos that we do have in the market today. As you can see into this thread alone with huge posting gap when it comes to updates and promotions which obviously a sign that they are struggling on getting players. A little bit more focus on marketing might really give out some chance but not a guarantee because everything will end up on users preference when it comes to games selected.
Maybe that is because the website just accepts BSV, which not many people know, making the casino not too popular depending on the other gambling websites.
I agree with @justdimin that maybe the developer and the team still develop the site to become more user-friendly, and maybe they will add other coins to bet.
If they can add bitcoin, ethereum, and litecoin besides BSV, I think the gamblers will play on those games.
There are many possibilities for the website not to gather many visitors, and usually, one of the reasons is that the owner does not update or online for some time.
The visitor will think that the website is just for fun and not too serious about running the site.
Maybe he needs to promote his website on social media because I see social media can booming, and that can be the way to invite more people to come.
4158  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Balance on Exchanges Reducing on: October 14, 2020, 03:09:07 AM
There's a lot of difference from that two charts. Because we are in a situation where in we need to manage well our bitcoin. What i mean was that, this pandemic that hitted us makes some of the investors pull out some of their bitcoin in crypto exchanges. There's  lot of reason why they are withdrawing their bitcoin.
 
 Bitcoin these past few days took a small pump, it is gaining some strength to finally took the pump.
Bitcoin still not touch $11,500 and it stays at below $11,500.
But I am sure that bitcoin price will break that price soon.
This pandemic makes people think about making money from many sources, and luckily for people who know about crypto, they can use crypto to make money.
Maybe those people want to hold their bitcoin in their wallets because they concern about the hacking in the exchanges.

The small pump help people to gain some profit for a while, and I think many of them are making some money.
But in a long term, bitcoin will have a big pump like before, and I am sure that pump will be bigger than before.
Although the pump will not happen quickly, we can still use that pump to make a profit.
Maybe the price will increase step by step and not directly jump to the highest price. That can be good for us if we can try to buy low and sell high.
4159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin truly moving forward? on: October 13, 2020, 11:50:07 AM
Bitcoin is doing very well so far however it doesn't mean bitcoin is about mooning. It's going to be bear for a while but we could still be consolidating between $10.5k-$12k before the next impulse up or down. However, with bitcoin we're always good position since mass adoption on the way.
It will change to the bull run someday, just don't lose hope because bitcoin still at the bear market.
We should be happy with the situation now because bitcoin can back to the $11k, and sooner or later, the price will increase.
I think the adoption process still runs, and bitcoin can invite more people to come to the bitcoin world, but we need to be patient to see bitcoin become globally.
That time will come soon, especially if the bitcoin price can jump to the new high price, and people will see and think about bitcoin.
I think when the bull run comes, the situations will be similar to what we saw before.
So we need to try to follow the bitcoin journey and don't forget to take your profit while you can.
But if somehow, you don't feel strong to hold bitcoin, you can leave the bitcoin world anytime you want, and there is no people will force you to keep staying with bitcoin if you don't want.
4160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question: Is there any websites where I can gamble crypto under 18? on: October 13, 2020, 09:12:59 AM
Most sites does not allow gamblers below 18 years old but if you are playing a site that does not require a KYC, then you can do so even if you are still 7 years old Grin.... sounds funny but that's the reality, just click that you agree that you are 18 years old and over and you are good to go.

Lol, don't encourage him! I know it's possible but rules are there for a reason! It's really very disastrous for the mind to be addicted to gambling at such a age, they can even gamble away their parents savings, their future money plans etc if they get addicted! And it can lead to extreme steps as well, specially if the youth is scared of facing consequences after losing big money which didn't belong to them! It happens all the time. It's best to avoid gambling and only gamble when one is legally mature and knows what they are doing with their own money and consequences!
When a young person below 18 years old plays gambling and loses his money, I am afraid that could attract him to playing more because he will think that it is because of his fault for not following a sign that he got.
The young people will be a rush to decide without thinking about what will be the risk if he continues playing gambling.
Probably, we already see some young people who are addicted to gambling, and they are difficult to stop gambling if their money is not gone.
But besides young people, we already see many adult people end their lives too because of gambling addiction, and they can not fix the problem, even if they visiting on psychologists or rehabilitation.
It is very difficult if you are on the inside of the gambling game, and you lose the direction of controlling yourself, and you will lose everything you have.
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