refunds are sent out with 0 tx fees. they will most likely never reach you guys...
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on top of that, inputs refunds are send out with 0 (ZERO) Fees... good luck receiving those
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Hey Seal,
sent you a PM. I'd like to rejoin if possible
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Email sent. Email replied. Can only refund Inputs.io now, which you don't have any other than 0.0005.
There will be automated systems for CL. Extra question asked. 1: what is the Inputs.io unimpacted balance 2: how much portion of Coinlenders' coin is on Inputs.io that's actually a good info. Since coinlenders is generating revenue over time, I hope we can get our full investment out. BTW: theoretically, TF could run coinlenders just like pre-inputs times.
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Got 0.04 out of 0.05 Coins out...
But the major problem are still my 4 coins in coinlenders :<
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Jul 11 23:17:25 <[\\\]> what is TF selling? Jul 11 23:17:35 <theymos> inputs.io Jul 11 23:17:43 <Cusipzzz> webwallet rubbish Jul 11 23:18:03 <[\\\]> how do they make money? Jul 11 23:18:09 <theymos> I don't know. Jul 11 23:18:09 <[\\\]> whats the incentive to run the webwallet? Jul 11 23:18:25 <Cusipzzz> the eventual 'hacking' obv ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not now buddy! pls tell me more jokes after i get my coins back! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) yeah thanks for your concern theymos. You could be the hero bitcointalk needs right now.
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I think this claim is honestly outrageous as it's pretty obvious the site was in fact hacked as I lost my coins several weeks prior to the "mass hacking". After a third party security audit, he assured me there must have been a flaw in Inputs.io security.
Wait, so there were coins lost weeks ago, which he knew, before this hacking, he then left over a million dollars on the server and happened to 'hacked' again? Interesting. that'd mean he knowingly risked his customers money... unbelievable
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I just got my full balance in CL out (over 20 BTC). Although transaction hasn't been confirmed yet, I now declare that TF has earned my full trust.
did you mail coinlenders support? I mailed to support@inputs.ioTheir answer: Hi,
This claim involves CoinLenders which will be handled soon. Due to major hacks, Inputs does not have enough BTC to repay everyone fully which has also affected CoinLenders. If you have had balance shown on Inputs.io, we're dividing up the coins we do have left based on a sliding scale, and have sent it to the specified address. On your Inputs account, your balance should have flipped to the negative to indicate you've received a refund.
We apologize sincerely for the lost Bitcoins. It's been a very hard lesson for us, and we're sorry that we have to pass it onto our users. Please respond to the email if you have any queries
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I just got my full balance in CL out (over 20 BTC). Although transaction hasn't been confirmed yet, I now declare that TF has earned my full trust.
did you mail coinlenders support?
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deleted my sig and so should you.
I can only hope that TF is using any spare coins to pay inputs and coinlenders people back.
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One more note, after emailing him my ideas on getting people repaid I had suggested that he only repay peoples initial investments and deposits and not give them all of the interest (which is a shame)...Looks like that might be what happens. My Email: "Though I think you should do the sliding scale across CoinLenders as well as that was the only reason for me to use Inputs.IO as I'm sure I'm not the only one, maybe you could calculate all the interest paid and use original investments only. Anyway good luck with it all!" Response from TF: "Yes, that'll be what's done." I agree with you. TF only need to repay initial investments and deposit. TBH I would be happy to get my 4 coins out. I don't need the interest.
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...my guess is the CoinLenders people will feel the brunt of the loss.
THAT would anger me, as Coinlenders theoretically has assets loaned out, and eventually to be paid back. Some people may cut and run, but not everyone will, and he should have more than a few coin there now AND rolling in as people make their payments. Theoretically all of it. Theoretically. I keep saying that word. I want to believe in honesty. Yes, which is why it's much simpler to handle claims with Inputs and why it's being handled first. so we can expect our full investment back? first good thing to read this morning then...
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I don't understand how people who made deposits to inputs (then onto coinlenders) well after the attack are out money. The amount has been withdrawn in full by other users. There was a limit designed to prevent much of that, but it was per transaction and people got around it. Then this puts coinlender customers in the same camp as the inputs customers. We should be included in this same pool and not be handled at a later time. (unless there are other coinlender-specific assets in play, like incoming funds from outstanding loans, etc). this. also, the coinlenders coins should be "safe" with lenders, or am I wrong?
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I thought i post this for those who are wondering how much they will get back.
I received 37.8% of the bitcoins i had on deposit back.
I am curious if they will try and pay the rest back with profits from other sites like just-dice etc..
That seems low. If the only funds taken were the hot wallet funds wouldn't you expect more than 38% to be left safely offline? I know inputs ran a hot wallet system because it would sometimes complain about the "hot pocket" being empty when I tried to withdraw from it. indeed, if there were 4100 coins in the hot pocket, he should easily have 10k in cold storage.
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got 4 coins on coinlenders... this is a huge hit to me. fuck. also, how can coinlenders be linked with inputs?!
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