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4161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 27, 2015, 10:14:33 PM
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/15/01/27/1525202/valves-economist-yanis-varoufakis-appointed-greeces-finance-minister

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One such step has been to appoint Valve's economist Yanis Varoufakis to position of Finance Minister of Greece. For the past three years Varoufakis has been working at Steam to analyze and improve the Steam Market but now has the opportunity to improve one of the most troubled economies in the world.

Never understood why Valve/Steam didn't go into Bitcoin in a big way, integrating into games, etc. Maybe this guy who is new leftie greek finance minister was the reason.

Because until recently, there wasn't much in the way of payment processing on that kind of scale.  Bitpay can handle now.  Expect to see Valve accepting BTC soon.

Bitpay has been around since 2011. Valve are big enough to create their own bitpay in house if they wanted to. Basically, they are followers not the leaders they used to be in tech .... is what it comes down to. I agree Valve will 'accept' bitcoin soon, because it is safe, microsoft, dell, etc, etc but I highly doubt they'll be doing anything innovative with it inside their games, in-game currencies, user-wallets, etc ... probably just dump it back on the xchanges for the commie fiat.
4162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 27, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/15/01/27/1525202/valves-economist-yanis-varoufakis-appointed-greeces-finance-minister

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One such step has been to appoint Valve's economist Yanis Varoufakis to position of Finance Minister of Greece. For the past three years Varoufakis has been working at Steam to analyze and improve the Steam Market but now has the opportunity to improve one of the most troubled economies in the world.

Never understood why Valve/Steam didn't go into Bitcoin in a big way, integrating into games, etc. Maybe this guy who is new leftie greek finance minister was the reason.
4163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 09:27:13 PM
ok, admit it trolls ... you all secretly wish/think that JorgeStolfi is your Satoshi Nakamoto
4164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 27, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
Central banks everywhere should be sure to own everything that is happening now:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-27/bonds-third-largest-austrian-bank-are-crashing

...  no, this is precisely the point they start claiming that markets are out of their control.
4165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 08:55:16 PM
mmm, bag holders everywhere around here, almost as many jealous green trolls

4166  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 27, 2015, 08:30:48 AM
what are people's thoughts on mining difficulty futures contracts bound to difficulty changes as innate "oracles"?

I have a hunch it may be useful, but it's a difficult subject on why, when and who would bed on difficult going down.

seems like it might be useful for miner's hedging long term purchasing decisions, etc.

Not sure why you would need oracles ... the difficulty is published every 2016 blocks in the most secure distributed ledger on the planet, the bitcoin blockchain. It seems like a good, simple to implement smart contract use case that relies on a universally verifiable input.
4167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 27, 2015, 08:24:30 AM
... until bitcoin came along they would have denied there were any problems.

Basically, because of bitcoin they have examined their system and now recognize it is old, broken, dysfunctional ... I would add corrupt, riddled with cronyism, systemically fraudulent and insolvent.

tl;dr sell US federal reserve notes (or any unverifiable electronic promises issued by the same)
4168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 04:51:18 AM
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"With a bitcoin exchange you have to build it like you are a real financial institution," said Tyler Winklevoss.

I find the subconscious suggestion in this statement interesting.

So all that "Wall St. is waiting for the BitLicense before moving in" was a big bunch of BS ... I didn't notice, if Coinbase exchange is being "regulated" (no Bitlicense), just who is regulating it? And why haven't they done it earlier?
4169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 02:42:02 AM
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Another thing about the latest research on the 1 percent from Rank and Hirschl: While one in eight Americans might visit the 1 percent for a year, only one in a hundred stay there for a decade or more.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/wealth-poverty/making-it-1-percent-more-common-you-think
4170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 01:54:00 AM
coinbase showed us the moon ...

4171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2015, 01:09:47 AM
A lot of people are trying to get out after the pump. So I think there will be a lot of resistance on the way up.
I'm staying in USD for now.

There will be a raft of good news coming out of the USA as the VC investments of 2013/4 start coming online.

I doubt staying in USD is the best strategy when the price will be trending up.

PayPal have pretty much laid down the path of travel. They will be enabling Bitcoin globally.  Actually, everyone apart from Apple will be offering non-credit card competition via Bitcoin in the coming year or two.

The direction of travel is mostly going to be north, with the odd attempt to short for short term profits.

it will take a while ... but eventually traders will close out their positions to bitcoin by default, i.e. take profits in bitcoin.
4172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 10:26:08 PM

True enough. I'm in a similar position. The only reason I'm margin short right now is so that I'll have the ability to buy more when and if it  drops, but that means no sleep tonight. No fucking way I'm sleeping margin short. There could easily be surprises in either direction, but the downside looks much more likely.


you wtf?!

BJA ... how far have you fallen kid?
4173  Economy / Economics / Re: [CHART] Bitcoin Inflation vs. Time on: January 26, 2015, 10:18:36 PM
ya,that's so true.
However, with the high inflation rate of bitcoin.
Dogecoin, litecoin or others are in the market,
so next question such as what is the different of cryto-currency with currency nowadays
when the price is high and another new cryto-currency is created?

yes, a comparative plot with bitcoin money supply inflation versus the same of USD, EUR, YEN, CHF GBP (M0 figures?) might be enlightening. Particularly with the recent QE antics.
4174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Hmmm have we found support?

Um, no. We are stalling for seven hours so we can get the full Chinese panic from the next big dump.


ATTENTION BEARS - get your bear suits on because the big 'Four Punch Raiders' "Chinese Panic" is tonight in 6 and 1/2 hours countdown.

China wakes up in 3

Edit, it's actually 530am now

shaking out the weak chinese hands has been an effective strategy for more than 6 months ...
4175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 10:51:34 AM
BUY people fucking BUY.

Don't end up being a bitter beartard / troll that gets left behind.

I would like to stay left behind... so I am not buying a single satoshi Cheesy  enjoy your ride to the "moonz"



That is pretty bad taste, even for you.

i didn't want to comment but making light of those thousands of poor bastards on the train to the death camps is about as low as it gets ...
4176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 26, 2015, 09:25:51 AM
There's still a lot of stolen coins that needs to be sold. I expect huge volatility for awhile until exchanges get their security holes fixed.

you're assuming the thieves do not desire to hold wealth in bitcoins ... some evidence to the contrary
4177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 09:01:38 AM
next phase of bitter trolls coming ... sold out bulls.
4178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 26, 2015, 08:54:27 AM
Is anyone feeling dread building up....

dread that you didn't buy enough this last few months.

I feel dread

I am rushing to get more money on exchange, have a localbtc meet set up hopefully tomorrow, I don't care what price I'm paying I want more, NOW

I bought some in the past few months, but i know I will regret not going all in. I am in some ways hoping for another dip... but deep down i know it isn't coming.

Think of this, Bitcoin has had an insane run up with only geeks and nut cases buying in. We have yet to see a bubble with mainstream society. When it happens..... holy shit..... 

we'll never see 200 again ... nor likely 250.
4179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 08:53:11 AM
it really is an interesting approach. It shifts the curve by pi/2, and normalises (by A) creating a normalised even function.

Sorry, I could not get beyond that.  However,  I found a formula (attributed to Euler) for sin(x) as an infinite product

sin(\pi z) = \pi z \prod_{n=1}^\oo (1 - \frac{z^2}{n^2})

It looks similar enough to your function shifted and scaled as before

f(\pi (z + 1/2)) = A g(z)

where z = x/\pi - 1/2,

A = \prod_{m=1}^\oo \frac{(4m-1)^2}{4m(4m-2)}

and

g(z) = \prod_{m=1}^\oo (1 - \frac{4z^2}{(4m-1)^2})

Maybe you can get some inspiration out of it...

heh he was the original instigator way back ...

btw

f(z) f(-z) = (sin z) / z
4180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:04:31 AM
Today, we just have some early birds that are front running the majority of traders and investors.

Tomorrow, I am afraid new fiat money pouring from the banking system will join into the MOON race.

Money isn't going to come overnight. I do expect this pull back again, but with news like this, I do wonder if its time to stop worrying about making profits on trades and just hoarding.

sometimes the best leverage is moar coins.
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