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4161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: July 16, 2016, 03:44:42 PM
Do you always missed the right time to sell or buy bitcoin?

Yeah if what you mean of right time is best price of buy or sell. But that does not matter. What matters is if you have profit when you sold or is it still profitable when you bought. For me as long as have reached my target price, I will execute my trades.
4162  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 16, 2016, 03:32:31 PM
Once you have a reliable way to sell your BTC for fiat to pay your bills - or a way to pay your bills directly in BTC, it is not as hard as you think.

That will be alright if your task in the house is just to pay a bill or you only receive bill and you are not a bread winner or you don't provide other things for the family..But if you are the key for the family to survive, I doubt it. Lucky if you have a million dollar worth of bitcoin and you know how to utilize it to earn..  Smiley
Some of us are full time workers here and they are not just thinking of paying just the house bills, they might also think that all their daily expenses is taken from there income here in bitcoin.

Having a work here and engaging in investing activity is a good way to earn consistent money.
You will go online when you are sure enough that the amount you can earn in working here will be better than you are receiving in real life job, because it that way you can experience more fun while spending your time here. Actually it is good to go full time as there are a lot of opportunity you can see that would change your perception in like and will make you a more matured person.

Actually that's true, and I believe in that, some of us here are going full time, and with the price of bitcoin now, it is good to go on, but if the price goes down again, Probably I would regret if I quit my job...  Smiley But yes, it is possible to earn more here if we go full time on bitcoin, but if the opportunity is just signature campaign and data entry, I don't think that it would suffice..



I doubt people will even think of quitting their jobs if their only opportunity to earn is thru signature campaign. It is too meager to replace a steady source of income. And it can be done without sacrificing your job. I think only people with real business in bitcoin will have the opportunity to leave their job and still earn enough for their family.
4163  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 16, 2016, 03:22:43 PM
The strategy for becoming rich is that, if we do not have any money then start any work and save money as much as possible and after that we have have to search for a good investment and have to invest there, or if it is possible we have to start a good business.
I have an interesting question. why people use the investment to be rich? that so my question is. Can I become rich without having to invest?

You can become rich if you have some unique skills from where you can generate regular income, and if you can manage that successfully then you don't need to invest money anywhere.
yeah I think we do not need to invest in if you already have more income and you still have the energy to work. maybe I'll invest when I was already rich and getting older
Investments need time to grow before it can give you nice profit. If you will just invest when your old, then I think you should not invest at all. Just use your money for your medical and health maintenance. Unless you will invest on hyip or ponzi, which I think is a bad idea.
4164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much you lost money in gambling? on: July 16, 2016, 03:04:53 PM
for me HYIP, PONZI< PYRAMID SCHME is same as gambling.
i lost arround 3btc at all of them, and now im not interesting to gambling or invest at ponzi again.
Common mistake. Don't believe people offering large, easy and fast returns. Though they are not gambling, they are investment scams and should be avoided. Gambling is different. You know you have 50% chance to lose right off the bat.
4165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 16, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
It's because of the big high you get when you win.  And when you lose you want to make that money back by betting more than the amount you lost to recover it.  It's a vicious cycle unfortunately.  thefeels

The more higher bet mean the more higher profit, I also think this kind of bets made gambling more attractive, gambling is always attractive when we hear some extra ordinary type of success stories which make inspire other to get start gambling and avail their chance to get rich so quickly.

That's actually what catches my attention too before, when I saw what I could win from almost a scratch or no capital at all. Not to mention those who testifies that they win a lot because of their technique...So I think, your first impression about gambling is what could possibly be the key/reason on why you are addicted to it.

I was also once a victim of those propaganda endorsing a technique to always win on a certain gambling site. But instead of winning, I lose my bitcoins. That is when I accepted that I cannot win in gambling. So now, I just play occasionally with small amounts. No regret when I lost, but good vibes when I win.
4166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 16, 2016, 02:35:16 PM
i found my self broke because gambling
i found my life in a mess because gambling

but because gambling too suddenly rich, suddenly be a billionaire
because gambling too you know what it is the real have fun

how about you?

is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life?
We all know that it can do both but the chance is allot bigger that it will mess up your life because the chance is just bigger that you will lose.
Only gamble when you know that you got money to lose other wise you will wreck your life.
The chances of becoming rich in gambling is too low to consider doing it, but the rate of people losses their job and family is high due to gambling, so you need to make your choice.

Only the big people behind those gambling sites are going to become rich with gambling and they are the one that are going to have good life with it.
But for those normal gamblers they are the one that will suffer it.
They are going to wrecked their own lives if they are not going to quit gambling.

You are right, in the end, the ones who run the casinos are the ones who will have a good life from gambling. But, you do not have to wreck your life if you are the gambler. all you need to have is control over it. Gambling will only wreck your life if you have too much of it. But occasional gambling can be good recreational activities to relax your mind after a hard days work.
4167  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 16, 2016, 06:14:53 AM
The strategy for becoming rich is that, if we do not have any money then start any work and save money as much as possible and after that we have have to search for a good investment and have to invest there, or if it is possible we have to start a good business.
I have an interesting question. why people use the investment to be rich? that so my question is. Can I become rich without having to invest?

You can become rich if you have some unique skills from where you can generate regular income, and if you can manage that successfully then you don't need to invest money anywhere.

You can live comfortably for a while if you have a good skills and you use it to generate money. But what happens if you cannot work anymore? The income will stop coming and you will have a hard time. My definition of rich is, when you can live comfortably for a long period of time without working. You can only achieve that if you have a passive income. Most common source of passive income is thru investment.
4168  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 15, 2016, 05:19:49 AM
Working for bitcoin is not a problem, but the payment may be. The price being so volatile makes it hard to count that you can pay your bills
when they start coming.
well yeah payments in bitcoins would definitely be a huge problem in my opinion because a lot of people wouldnt want it as they wage might drop a lot in just a day

It is not difficult to get paid at USD rate but paid in BTC on the day. To reply to the main question no wouldn't quit my day job to go ful time in BTC I would accept BTC as payment though.

This is probably the most accurate main reason for people to stick with their jobs.

Because of the rate based on that day can or can not be matched back in USD  due the btc rate - its more of how much can you deduct your pay check being okay with.

I know some people go crazy over not having $5 on their normal paychecks so I can only picture people grumbling about the paid rate if they theres a difference.

The upside is, the price is going up, so if you are getting paid in fixed btc, you are actually getting more if you convert it to dollars. Imagine if you agreed to be paid 1btc in your work november, it is just $400+. And if you keep that job, you are now being paid $650+. You are getting paid more without additional responsibilities and work.
In my country the amount of 1 bitcoin is for managerial position because it has a huge amount but i think that is not applicable to my country to use bitcoin as basis of salary. And i do not see to quit the people who have regular job in exchange of earning in bitcoin because you can able to earn bitcoin even in your free time.

You do not have to quit if you just intend to have a part time job earning bitcoin. But for people who are heavily invested in bitcoin, like those traders, have to quit their current job to be able to focus more in bitcoin or cryptocurrency trading. Personally, I am not quitting either. I have a good day job that pays well, and I am into bitcoin for the potential it has. But I can earn bitcoin in the side and it is enough for me.
4169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 15, 2016, 04:59:26 AM
Personally I do not think that gambling is wrong because of the fact that those people who gamble have earned there own money and if they decide to spend it this way then they should.
We should not judge people on what they like to spend there money on.

It is not that they used their own money to do gambling that is wrong. It is wrong because people lose control on what they do because of gambling. They become addicted to it, and they lose their control and that has negative effects to the person, to his family, friends and the society. It is not just about the money, it is about the responsibilities you neglect because you spend too much time on the game.
4170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 14, 2016, 02:02:19 PM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!
You need to really stop if you have a gambling problem because it can really hurt you if you do not know how to stop.
Especially if you have a family you can hurt not only yourself but them as well.
I only gamble for fun, and very seldomly do I go into casinos. I have heard of so many sad stories about people who got addicted in gambling and did illegal things just to sustain their addiction. That is why I only gamble a small amount and I know that when it's over, it is over for me.
Yes true not too sure if gambling could add earnings as bitcoin is a game. We are definitely going to experience victory and defeat so we should not gamble with spending all bitcoin. Perhaps the main problem of gambling is greed.
Yeah! I agree with you and that is because I have experience it on my own, when you have the feeling that you do not want to stop even if you are winning already and when you lose also you still don't want to stop because you want to chase your losses, that never really bring good into our life.

That feeling that you do not want to stop gambling even if you are winning or losing, that is gambling addiction already. You can hide it in alibis that your chasing losses or you are greedy, but the truth is you just do not want to stop. And that is already bad because sooner or later, your losses will pile up and you can be in great debts just to sustain the addiction.
4171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: July 14, 2016, 10:04:22 AM
Share your ideas here.   Grin

In my opinion, I think we will be stuck in one price or maybe worse we will all go down.

Here is what happened when US citizens are saving too much.

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That's important because American spenders make up the majority -- about 70% -- of economic activity in the country. If people don't spend, the economy doesn't grow.

Check it out here


The price will go down because people will lose interest in bitcoin if it happens. That is why though it is good to hold bitcoin, it is still hurting its economy if no bitcoin is used for purchase. It is good if there is more merchandisers that will adopt bitcoin so that more will be encourage to use and spend bitcoins.
4172  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 14, 2016, 06:36:47 AM
I realised that I'm too lazy to get rich and I know most of the people feel the same. There are multiple opportunities to get money, especially in crypto-currency world but we don't read much, we don't expand our knowledge and connections. Some people hustle more and get money, we only watch them in our couch. We have to change ourselves to a better us.

Exactly we need to expand our horizons and start thinking out of the tank and I think there are many people who got rich by scamming and cheating people, but we don't want to be one of them.

LOL! Those people who became rich with that way that illegal acts will just lose their money easily. Because they are not going to give importance to it because they just got it easily. Unlike if you are going to work hard for it you are going to give value for your money because you worked hard for it. And for scammers and cheaters they are just going to do it again if ever they run out of funds.

You can be rich doing scams all your life but I do not advise you  do that. There are legal consequences that you can face if you get caught. All the riches you acquired will all be for nothing if you end up in jail. There are a lot of ways to make money and be rich without going to illegal or scamming activities. You just need dedication, perseverance and hard work to get you goals.
4173  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 14, 2016, 05:45:14 AM
Working for bitcoin is not a problem, but the payment may be. The price being so volatile makes it hard to count that you can pay your bills
when they start coming.
well yeah payments in bitcoins would definitely be a huge problem in my opinion because a lot of people wouldnt want it as they wage might drop a lot in just a day

It is not difficult to get paid at USD rate but paid in BTC on the day. To reply to the main question no wouldn't quit my day job to go ful time in BTC I would accept BTC as payment though.

This is probably the most accurate main reason for people to stick with their jobs.

Because of the rate based on that day can or can not be matched back in USD  due the btc rate - its more of how much can you deduct your pay check being okay with.

I know some people go crazy over not having $5 on their normal paychecks so I can only picture people grumbling about the paid rate if they theres a difference.

The upside is, the price is going up, so if you are getting paid in fixed btc, you are actually getting more if you convert it to dollars. Imagine if you agreed to be paid 1btc in your work november, it is just $400+. And if you keep that job, you are now being paid $650+. You are getting paid more without additional responsibilities and work.
4174  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 14, 2016, 04:18:24 AM
i will prefer save your money and invest only from profits . example suppose you invested 0.1btc and you got profit of 0.12btc then invest the 0.02btc only at next turn i know that will make it too slow but this can be what i call a safe play

That could be good. But it is better if you save money for saving purposes and save some for investment purposes. Like save only 0.1BTC for investment. Then you just roll it over to a new investment if you profit some from it. Then you will be doing both, saving and investing. That will a better and faster way to make money without too much risk.
4175  Economy / Services / Re: [NEW]★☆★ Bitvest Plinko Sig. Campaign ★☆★ Up to .0007/Post (Newb-Hero Accepted) on: July 11, 2016, 04:23:18 AM
User:    jakelyson
Postion to Apply: Sr. Member
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I am a member of this signature campaign since Feb. What will  happen to our work that is not yet paid?

edit: It is already paid. sorry for the confusion.
4176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: July 11, 2016, 04:07:04 AM
After all theres no way you get a win to win situation in gambling you might win a lot of money today yet in the end you will lose money that you cant  afford to so be wise enougj

yeah thats true, we all know that we can actually win in gambling but after that I will gamble again my winnings then after that I will all my winning because of the greediness that we felt is always there when we wins. But not all person are like that, some of them that wins the game will put their winning in their savings.

gambling is all about luck so there is one thing i always try and it kind of working i just bet all my fund with x2 one time per day i start like that and now i just bet with the profit i get from last day. that will show if you are lucky today or not i stop after that one bet even if it is a win or lost.
and the profit is getting bigger each week.

It is good that YOLO is working for you. I also tried that once but it does not work for me. I guess I do not have enough luck to win even if I use YOLO or martingale or any other gambling techniques out there. So I stopped gambling so that I will not cry if I lose big amount. Good luck with your technique.
4177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: July 11, 2016, 03:55:18 AM
Well Bitcoin is getting popular nowadays and I think there are people who have realized the potential of gambling through bitcoin because bitcoin gambling site are just a fingertips away.
And people can play anonymously and aside from getting free satoshi in faucets it is not a big problem playing it.

I guess Bitcoin is not that much popular, this is just popular who's addicted in computer gaming, or in the office like encoders. Because I think if all people know that Bitcoin is really great all people will use this. But here in our family, me and my brother only using bitcoin. Not all of us. but they want to try also, but they didn't know exactly what is it. They want us to explain to them further.  Grin

Yeah that's the only issue with people using btc nowadays in my opinion, is they're just too lazy to actually learn about it and learn how to make profit in other ways than JUST gambling, but that's up to them to try to learn

You really have to see the casino's environments to really understand what draws more and more people into those casinos


They are too lazy to understand us. I think if the time comes that they wanted to become really interested I think they will also forced us to teach them how to use bitcoin. That was exactly what I do when I force my brother to teach me how to use this because at first I really didn't understand everything..

not a problem. so long as they are using bitcoin, they are helping the btc economy. 
those that hoard thousands are the ones you need to worry for they can control the market and with just one dump, they can easily drag the price down the floor. but i suppose that won't happen so long as the price continue to go up.

As more people are using bitcoin, bitcoin will be diversified and it will be harder for whales to control the price. I think it will take more than a thousand bitcoins to drop or raise the price of bitcoin now since there are a lot of users already. They will balance the moves of the whales.
4178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much you lost money in gambling? on: July 11, 2016, 03:30:02 AM
I had lost around 0.8 btc from playing starting time of faucet to till 1 yrs back in dice, poker, rouletter but after i started to play sports betting i recovered it all and now i am more 50% in profit.

Then can I say sports betting is a more profitable gambling than dice or poker or roulette. It is good that you recovered your loss from those gambling games. I do not say that I support gambling but if you can win and have a good profit on sports betting, then I think you should continue it. Additional income is additional income no matter where it came from.
4179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: July 09, 2016, 12:50:20 PM
You can never quit gambling for good once you have tasted its essence. All you can do is make short pauses but in the end you will start gambling again. This is been seen over and over again in many people cases inclusive me. When there is no hope of getting money then we come back to try luck this is bitter reality. This is one way road once in then you are on it.

This is not true. People can quit if they really have the desire to quit gambling. Maybe you are stucked to gambling because it was your choice to gamble even if it is already bad to you. Even drug addiction can be cure, so, gambling addiction can be cured too. And those who have. A strong desire to get away from gambling will be able to quit and get away from it.
4180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 09, 2016, 11:57:29 AM
actually gambling may only wreck you're life,it wont make you rich
i have lost 0,15 yesterday,0,0035 today.Busting everyday at gambling,i cannot even win some lol
Lol if you can not win from gambling why are you still playing in gambling? That makes a person poor or ruin their lives. even if they
get a big loss but if they still think that gambling can turn it into rich I thought you and they will continue to gamble and receive big lose
And that is a sign of stupidity as well, you are like doing a job that you don't like and the sad thing is you do it in gambling, you need to have unlimited supply of money to enjoy the game.
If you already have unlimited money, then I think you do not have the need to gamble anymore. Gambling will lose it's fun if you do not care if you win or lose anymore. There will be no more thrill because there is no more risk. Gambling can make or break your life, but to those who have strong discipline, gambling can be fun.
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