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4181  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gun free zone on: December 23, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/opinion/blow-on-guns-america-stands-out.html?_r=0

Let's start with some facts:

1. Every country on the list has less guns per capita than the US. Every country on the list has less gun deaths than the US, except for one, which is Mexico.

2. Every country on the list has less assault deaths per capita than the US except for three countries.

3. Every country on the list has less assaults or threats per capita than the US except for four countries which have rates only marginally greater than the US.

4. Most all countries on the list have gun deaths per capita 5 to 10 times less than the US.

5. Most all countries on the list have assault deaths per capita nearly 5 times less than the US.

Now, what should be done to improve these numbers in the future such that the US is more competitive with the other nations. Or are you not interested in that? From the data in the table, it does not appear that more guns will yield the desired results.

It is also not clear that less guns will.  The points made by Holliday regarding the violent example of our government and the decline of the family can't be ignored.  I'm sure superficially you understand coorelation does not imply causation, but you seem to be arguing that it does.
4182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Woo hoo Silver smack down on: December 23, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
silver down maybe in the short term, long term all commodities should rise after all the dollar is fractional reserve garbage.

The fact that everybody thinks the dollar will become worthless is why I believe so strongly that we will in fact see the deflation S3052 and Cypherdoc have been predicting.  In capitalist economics it's the majority that always loses.  The rich get richer the poor get poorer.
4183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: December 23, 2012, 05:55:56 PM

An email subject line, just like all the other one line posts from Cypherdoc.
4184  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitCoin apps for iPhone? (without jailbreaking) on: December 23, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
I've only found one app for iPhone so far, and I'm fairly certain I would need to jailbreak my iPhone to use it

Ya, blame Apple for that.

Paymium's FriendlyPay (iOS) app worked with Instawallet and was a great app and then Apple kicked them out of the App store.
WalletBit just had their iOS app rejected by Apple.  Again in this case, Apple would only give a generic "must not violate laws in all jurisdictions it is offered".  No details as to either which laws were being broken or which jurisdictions a problem existed.

So, remember that when it is time to replace your phone.

+1

My next phone will run android.  The only reason I have an iPhone in the first place is a client bought it for me when they needed an iOS app.
4185  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] - how confident are you? on: December 23, 2012, 04:07:41 AM
people voting 100%

you read all the source code and thought about it for months, or you blindly believe it 100%?
I read rather carefully about the EC algorithm Bitcoin uses and this is the very core of Bitcoin. Everything else follows and is patchable.

EC is like an equation with more than one unknown, there is mathematically speaking no way to solve it except brute force.


(I assumed your poll meant catastrophically hacked not some minor and temporary exploit or rare double spend.)

EC is used for signing transactions, not for mining.  It is the SHA256 hashing algorithm that brute force collision finding is used on.
4186  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you High MAn 0_0? on: December 22, 2012, 07:41:09 PM
If you're able to look at a computer screen without being really confused, you ain't high enough Smiley

I've apparently never been high enough, but then again I'm a computer scientist, so I just see right through the graphics to the source code.
4187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 22, 2012, 07:37:11 PM
I should not be drinking and trading... hum gambling!  Grin

edit:  Grin

Probably not Wink.
4188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 22, 2012, 07:02:42 PM
anyway back on topic this is short trem bitcoin speculation and i say down to 12.50 by the end of boxing day!  Grin
Because of you(and the stupid fake wall) I've sold almost everything at $13.48 two days ago...

You better be right or else...  Grin

Adam's only a little short and is holding on to quite a few.  Selling everything based on his short term gamble probably wasn't the best move.
4189  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitCoin apps for iPhone? (without jailbreaking) on: December 22, 2012, 06:36:30 PM
Blockchain.info has a great iOS app.  I believe it is just called blockchain in the app store.  Just don't forget your password... Blockchain.info stores your wallet encrypted and if you lose the password nobody can recover your bitcoins (but it's also impossible for blockchain.info to steal them since the password is only ever handled on the client side).
4190  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is it possible to buy less than a full Bitcoin? on: December 22, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
What Goodbc said.

You don't always have to pay the BTC0,0005 transaction fee, but sometimes you do. There is an algorithm which determines whether or not it's required.

This is based on the size of the transaction right? if it is too small than the transaction fee is necessary but if it is large enough than the fee is not necessary.

Technically, it is not required at all by the protocol.  Individual miners make their own decisions on what type of fees they require.  Higher fees will make your transaction accepted by more miners and thus processed more quickly.  Some miners accept all transactions regardless of fee so it will be processed eventually. It just might take a few blocks before it is included.
4191  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gun free zone on: December 22, 2012, 06:27:17 PM
By the way, self-defense is a right or a duty?

It appears you cannot even understand the difference of both definitions.
It appears you cannot understand the fact that it is both.

Self-defense is not a moral or legal obligation. The act to react against an imminent physical attack is completely voluntary and cannot be enforced by laws or moral standards. In accordance with your delusional premise (self-defense is a right and a duty of the individual), any person would have the duty to defend itself from an attacker. Disable people, elders or children would have the obligation to react against  any imminent physical attack which they could face. This is, of course, false. There is no moral or legal obligations which forces a disable person, an elder or a child to react against a threat.

A disable person, an elder or children is indeed entitled to defend his body as much he/she can, but at the same time they are entitled to let another person defend their body as much they can. Therefore the action of self-defense is a right and not a duty. Individuals have the right to choice who defend them, whatever is themselves or somebody else.

Individuals also have the right to choose if other individuals should or should not handle lethal weapons near them. A school which not allows individuals to own lethal weapons in their premises is not forcing another individuals to not defend themselves (it is not a duty), but exercising the right to decide who will defend themselves (it is a right).


I agree on right vs. duty, but the last paragraph seems to have come from you ass.  Are you sayig I have the right to demand that the police officer who pulled me over to go put his gun back in his car because it makes me uncomfortable?
4192  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gun free zone on: December 22, 2012, 05:57:09 PM
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If we're going to talk statistics, then some citations for your allegations would be handy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-525965.html

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Shawn struggled with learning disabilities and significant emotional problems.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-arizona-shooting-gabbie-giffords-20121108,0,4209374.story

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After the shooting, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia and underwent forcible psychotropic drug treatments.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/seung-hui-chos-mental-health-records-released/story?id=8278195#.UNV0NjkU-Uk

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Cho had been admitted overnight to the hospital after his roommate became concerned when Cho threatened to take his own life.

Statistics and science are wrong, but the news must be right...

Oh dear... What a bunch of delusional users in this thread.

Tell me, what make you to trust in the above news to determine the shooters were affected by a mental disorder?

Maybe the fact that they killed people.  Healthy minds don't do that.
4193  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin currently at double the inflation of USD? on: December 22, 2012, 05:32:59 PM
You are also neglecting the deflationary pressure caused by debt destruction (defaults).  Ben would be hard pressed to outpace that, especially if we have another collapse in the short to medium term.

Additionally, the inflation is fundamentally different because the USDs get handed over to bankers for the sole reason that they are wealthy and in a position to lend (but they are refusing to because interest rates are too low for the risk).  With bitcoin, you only get the new BTC by helping to process transactions.
4194  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gun free zone on: December 22, 2012, 06:28:29 AM
I'm sorry, I'd try and debate, but I'm completely distracted by the cute asian chicks with Katana.

And zomg Organofcorti Cheesy You're intelligent!
I find Mr. Trump's hair to be one of the more cogent debaters on here. That probably explains why you don't see him in here often.


I think the difference is between gun control and people who want guns is that the people who want guns want to take responsibility for defence themselves rather than rely on others and I can't help but side with that idea really since that idea is going to be much more useful if you happen to be alone when attacked.

Yup. We recognize that ultimately, you're the one responsible for your own defense. The courts agree with us. Unless you want to pay to have a bodyguard at all times, your safety is, ultimately, your duty.

Those who pound their guns into plows will plow for those who don't.
4195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 22, 2012, 03:18:32 AM
the 10 day chart looks scary, looks like we are about to fall of a cliff  Undecided

You're talking about the DOW right?
4196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Core Development Status Report #2 - Discussion on: December 22, 2012, 12:16:42 AM
For less-savvy supporters like myself, could you tell us whether these are fork-required upgrades or no-fork-required upgrades? I'm referrring now to the secure payment protocol stuff.

No fork required. The secure payment protocol stuff is all higher-level than the blockchain.


Gotcha thanks. I know you're super busy, but if you (or someone) could entertain a related question, that would be super. My initial impression of the future of Bitcoin was that, over the next decade, there would probably be a few more hard forks (maybe just one more?) that ideally wouldn't split the userbase as one branch would take the vast majority of the userbase. Is my impression far off? Are we basically hoping to never have a hard fork again (which implies, for example, that we think the current blocksize might stand the test of time)?

-Chris

P.S. Apologies if this post shows up twice...

This implies that at least one more fork may be in the cards: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardfork_Wishlist
4197  Other / Off-topic / Woo hoo Silver smack down on: December 21, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
On Topic (because so many are butt hurt and are attempting to troll me lol): Anyone wanting the physical metal would be wise to buy now or in the near future (weeks).



Fuck your troll topic.

Fuck your claims of knowing the future (how else can you know what may be wise?).

That's your attempt to poke "the troll"? LOL.

Cypher you fail hard at trolling. Keep trying.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

i do fail at trolling.  you're the best #1  Kiss
Kiss

stick to what you are good at...spouting bullshit. Thanks!

The only difference between your bullshit and Cyperdoc's is that Cyperdoc's had helped me make decisions that resulted in profit.  Your bullshit just makes me want to hit you.

LOL so you admit that Cypher spouts bullshit?

My garden grows much better with fertilizer.

Does your garden have ass-fruits and shit-tables?

No, my garden has regular food, not the crap you eat.
4198  Other / Off-topic / Woo hoo Silver smack down on: December 21, 2012, 08:18:18 PM
That's your attempt to poke "the troll"? LOL.

Cypher you fail hard at trolling. Keep trying.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

i do fail at trolling.  you're the best #1  Kiss
Kiss

stick to what you are good at...spouting bullshit. Thanks!

The only difference between your bullshit and Cyperdoc's is that Cyperdoc's had helped me make decisions that resulted in profit.  Your bullshit just makes me want to hit you.

LOL so you admit that Cypher spouts bullshit?

My garden grows much better with fertilizer.
4199  Other / Off-topic / Woo hoo Silver smack down on: December 21, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
That's your attempt to poke "the troll"? LOL.

Cypher you fail hard at trolling. Keep trying.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

i do fail at trolling.  you're the best #1  Kiss
Kiss

stick to what you are good at...spouting bullshit. Thanks!

The only difference between your bullshit and Cyperdoc's is that Cyperdoc's had helped me make decisions that resulted in profit.  Your bullshit just makes me want to hit you.
4200  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: December 21, 2012, 07:17:31 PM
Coz you both fanatically bullish and dont see obivous things from ta basics.

Or you are too focused on the short term and they've realized it isn't worth the headache and take the easy > 100% profit for the year.
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