Timing is everything.
+1 for wisdom -1 for cowardice Let me use an analogy. If you start doing mma, will you gradually go the ranks, and then when you're ready, challenge the best fighter, or will you as a newbie challenge the world champ immediately ? It depends on if your name is Bob Sapp.  |
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With all these people out their yelling about how they have free electricity, I think I'm beginning to understand why I pay so much for electricity. And I'm not even mining.
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Dude, you are absolutely clueless and you have no idea wtf was going on and is going on.
Please, strop trolling this thread. Your hysterical rants add no value to this discussion.
I think they're great. It's like he has Schopenhauers Dialektik open and goes "Let's see. Oooh, now I'm gonna use this stratagem" |
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Well, if it's just how you use it, where are jgarzik calls to shut down or ban even just verbally a number of B laundering sites there are in this world, or SR, or a number of Bitcoin "services" that have since defrauded their customers, or whatever in the B world that is expressly forbidden by US law?
Running a bitcoin laundry or SR or a ponzi scheme does not usually get you shipped off to Guantanamo.  |
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As I said though, if this is how things shall develop, we should get rid of SHA before it's too late. What if the USA made it illegal to relay cryptographic traffic that is initiated from sanctioned countries?
As I said in my edit, I totally concur. It's a flaw in the protocol. Wanna shut down Bitcoin without just declaring Bitcoin itself illegal (which you really can't easily due to jurisdictional issues)? Just redefine usage rights for SHA-256. Can be done from today to tomorrow. Their algorithm, their right to decide what happens with it. "Yeah, about SHA-256. We don't really want that to be used for crypto-currencies. Toodles". Bam, instantly every mining instance or mining-rig or whatever you have is breaking the usage license and thus illegal. Which would shut down Bitcoin at least until a new cryptocore is implemented. Also it would totally suck for ASIC users. jgarzik is quite right. The SHA-256 algorithm is property of the US and export regulations for SHA-256 expressively forbid exporting the algorithm or products based on the algorithm to Iran.
What if you are not a USA citizen? Will the US government still drone bomb you, if you provide SHA256 to Iranian citizens? Watch out for any black helicopters.  |
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Besides, why the hell are we to accept getting bossed around by the USA all the time? USA is imposing all kinds of regulations internationally. It's their algorithm. US government institutions (NIST and NSA) invented it and own it. It is not common property though it is prevalent enough in the western world that one might think so. I'm pretty sure the US can regulate what people can do with it's own property. Take a look at the TOS of pretty much any piece of software employing any US proprietary cryptographic algorithms and you will find an item excluding usage rights of the software for citizens of certain countries like Cuba and Iran. I know no one reads these things, but it's in there. I DO concur that using a state owned cryptographic algorithm is pretty much counter to everything some consider Bitcoin to stand for and could thus be seen as a flaw in the concept. |
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Seems to me that it's also expressively forbidden for US citizens to create and distribute currencies? Actually no. You can create currency all you like. Now how you use that currency, that is the tricky part where you can be shut down. egold for example died, because the company directors actively facilitated money laundering. Killing the company as the sole issuer thus killed the currency. Liberty Dollars was killed because the issuer behaved in a way that was clearly intended to defraud customers (designing the Liberty Dollar to look like US Dollars and encouraging businesses to give change to USD customers in Liberty Dollars without informing the customer). Stopping the issuer stopped the currency. |
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jgarzik is quite right. The SHA-256 algorithm is property of the US and export regulations for SHA-256 expressively forbid exporting the algorithm or products based on the algorithm to Iran.
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Step off the drugs, dawg.
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Sounds like someone one would want to employ. Cheating on the CCNA and cheating on paying 10 bucks to cheat on the CCNA. Apparently a really trustworthy guy.
EDIT: Aaaand he's with Bitcoin Police. Big surprise there.
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Greyhawk is a troll who has had posts deleted from this forum specifically for trolling me. So what you're saying is you have a man on the inside covering for you? Thank you for confirming this nagging suspicion. |
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My eventual aim is have a securities rating service. Much like services offered by Moody's and S&P. I am also very interested in equity research done by investment banks. I feel that it is something that will benefit both the investors and miners.
Oh good, our last securities rating service turned out to be a scamming bumblefuck. Of course no one would believe us when we called him out as being a scamming bumblefuck for months before finally everyone was forced to admit it, but hey... Bitcoin. Anyway, good to have someone here to run some ratings on these unregistered securities by anonymous persons traded on unregistered exchanges. Wouldn't want people to run blindly to their doom, now would we? BTW, what personally is your opinion on starfishes? |
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I have a theory about why Satoshi disappeared.
It coincidentelly ties in with the following list of Things Satoshi Probably Dislikes.
Things Satoshi Probably dislikes:
- being worshipped like a god
- idiotic fanboyism
- stalkers
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Upping the amount of different disinfectants isn't going to change much if anything. Any of this stuff kills bacteria dead well enough already on it's own. You really can't kill em deader after that.
What you'll want to do is experiment with varying the aetheric oils to change the taste and smell aspects.
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Don't forget to show them (the Wikipedians) how much money you will have donated from Bitcoin users.
And us. Please show us too the mountains of coins that will be donated....  |
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This user is currently ignored. Huh? Don't worry. I'll quote it for you: WoW, sorry I ain't "that stupid" to buy a BFL ASIC in the first place, so I didn't know that payments went only thru bitpay. So if BFL refunds everyone right now they will get almost 1/2 of their bitcoins. Pretty clever scam - lie till the price goes up, then return 1/2 the bitcoins. Everyone knew that bitcoin price was going up. Damn they are smarter than I thought. I wish I had come up with the ASIC scheme Man you are retarded, even my 5-year old daughter is brighter and smarter than you. Don't bother to respond, I'm pretty sure you will never get it. Dude, I don't want to be your 5y old retarded daughter, poor thing she has a lying father. jk How much did BFL pay you to put this in your signature: 60 GH/s BFL Single SC - Pre-Order Yours Today!
`````` Only $1299.99 - butterflylabs.com ```` You understood exactly what I sad and if you haven't. Try denying this: If BFL bought BTC with the money everyone gave them a long time ago, and issues a refund right now, assuming that they didn't spend any money to develop anything and were just lying, will they make a profit? Now if you follow my posts, you will see that I don't think that BFL is a scam, but that they are lying again and again about the shipping date, so they can make a few $ more, and catch a few more fish(miners).  I withheld from comenting on this: We're supposed to listen to the judgement of someone that hasn't even mastered "copy and paste"?
Yes, because he told you so, and was right!  Huh??? Quote: In my personal opinion there is something very stinky about BFL: 1. No certain delivery dates. ----------- no asic vendor gave, besides this was known when you posted, so a useless comment 2. No pictures or schemes or anything. --------- fail point, pictures shown, if you expect to get schematics, dream on! 3. Very limited information (actually there is no information on the ASICs). ------------ Too basic complaint. What do you want to know? 4. No one answers their phone. ------------ How many times have you called? I bet never. 5. They answer your e-mail within 2-3 weeks. ------------ utter lie, I had email exchanges with answers between 2 minutes to 2 days at the august peak periods 6. All their answers are with a maybe or possibly. ---------- again, what are you asking? 7. I never got it why are BITCOIN payments preferred. ---------- They are not, but considering it's all about bitcoins, I wouldn't mind if they were 8. The broke the law of e-bay - 2 months to appeal and ask for a refund with their 2 to 4 to 6 months delivery - maybe. --------- fail, bfl does not sell on ebay, some bloke sells his places in line 9. They are a business registered in Massachusetts on the name of some Mexican woman. ------------- fail, fud from months back. 10. They are playing with millions yet their website is made with WordPress. -------------- So? 11. Up to today no one has either seen, touched or heard their ASICs. (even remotely) ---------- Not heard of their asics? Are you deaf? Do you read magazines, follow more vendors? In short, utter fail attempt to score with nothing. Again. But now I have to: 1. Any serious business gives delivery dates of their products, so your comment is useless! 2. They showed the first picture, when the should've started shipping their ASIC, so they send pics instead, again your comment is useless. 3. When I give someone money, and not a small amount of money I expect information, and a webpage not made with WordPress 4., 5., 6., Are true! 2-3 months ago there was literally no customer support on BFLs side, again you are useless and pointless in your comment. The next few we have commented. 11. Again 3 months ago, no one had seen their ASIC, I dont think that anyone has seen it yet, but dude, this thread is 3 months old learn to read! You are giving today's information to 3 month old questions! |
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Judges? We don't need no stinking judges. In seriousness, this is a great way to get a list of people who should be first up against the wall when the Libertopian Revolution happens. |
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Mining for Bitcoins with a GPU or even dozens of GPUs will soon be a total waste of time and energy.
It already is after yesterday. People are jumping on Litecoin like ethiopian children on a loaf of bread. |
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Took them long enough Who "them"? Wikipedia? I doubt they know about this. |
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