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4181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 25, 2014, 02:44:35 PM
I think the message of Nxt needs to be focused on one thing and that is Transparent Forging and how that will enable Nxt to handle 1000+ TPS.

Nothing else matters (all the other "2nd gen" crypto-currencies can do most of the other stuff like "colored coins").

Bitcoin can only currently handle 7 TPS and even with lifting limits like the 1MB block size it would still have troubles handling much more than 70 TPS.

If Nxt provides a payment system that can "truly compete" with Visa, etc. then that will be the *only thing that matters* (all the rest is just "icing on the cake").
4182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 25, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
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I would find it hard to believe that the "checksum" characters are relevant.
4183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 25, 2014, 06:59:01 AM
The draft looks okay - but I would not be giving him more than a "token" amount of Nxt (say 1K at the most).

The guy is rich so if he has any real interest he would simply buy on an exchange and then promote it to easily double his money so a token amount should suffice.

Don't be so "desperate" to "look desperate" guys. Grin
4184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 24, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Again guys,

"calm down" and let the others "fight it out" - this "battle" for attention is not the "war" - play it like chess. Smiley
4185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 24, 2014, 04:48:59 PM
Guys,

Don't worry - the big difference I have seen between Nxt and the others is that:

i) It *doesn't* have VC capital backing.

ii) It *doesn't* have "slick sales guys*.

iii) It *does* have smart devs and an increasing following.

iv) It *is* delivering its promises (more or less) on time.

There will always be "the next* conference - stick to what you're doing well - people are watching this space with interest.
4186  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin lost, again and gain! on: January 24, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
The fee paid was 0.005 (still rather generous - you might want to lower that to 0.0001) and the 4 BTC was presumably your *change* (you do understand about change?).
4187  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Offline website app to show wallet.dat information in readable way on: January 24, 2014, 08:50:08 AM
Perhaps you might want to try using "pywallet" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34028.0 (apparently a new version is under development).
4188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
Same offer for me? Wink

After someone pays me (I have also read every post in this topic)!

Grin
4189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 05:14:07 PM
Edit: Kasperski if you're reading this forum please post so we can negotiate

Man - to have waded through 1200 pages of this topic I think he would have already have had to be paid more than 10 BTC.

Smiley
4190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Can anyone remember how much Satoshi paid Kasperski?

I certainly doubt he published "out of the goodness of his heart" though (so perhaps we ought to find an academic who has secretly already invested in NXT).

Smiley
4191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:58:04 PM
Hopefully, at least some of you understand my references here. Unfortunately that is how it generally works in independent rating and researches today.

Yes - I get it and unfortunately I think some others don't realise how modern day academic research is generally funded (by industry).
4192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:54:13 PM
thats ok, we all think you are a bit nutso yourself

Oh, thank you for your kind words. Do you want me to leave?

Your opinions are welcomed and worth discussing so please don't leave on my behalf. Smiley
4193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:50:25 PM
OK, I can't keep up responding to all of you jumping at me like this.

I'm not jumping at you. I respect your position. I just disagree and want to explain why.
I understand the worries, but don't think it will be that much of an issue.

I also respect you for voicing your opinion!

Agreed - just understand that this is how all "audit" companies work - they are "paid" to do "audits" and they are paid by the very companies that they are auditing (and indeed some audit companies have ended up being demolished by bad ethics but that hasn't stopped plenty of others being able to remain both ethical and profitable).
4194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
It seems to me u confused Nxt PoS algo and Nxt crypto algo. We collected 10 BTC for crypto audit only.

If I am right, there will be 10 more BTC from two different users - each 5 BTC.

No. CIYAM offered 5 BTC for PoS algo.

Note - I am flexible over this - if you can convince me that it is worth it for the crypto audit only then I will contribute the 5 BTC to that.
4195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:43:11 PM
And if you plan him to go through source, then shouldn't you just hire a company to do your security audit, not an academic?

The money would obviously be best *not* to go *directly* to the academic (nor would it in normal funding situations). You offer funding to a university with the condition that something gets researched but it is up to the university exactly how the funding is spent (as the client all you care about is that the paper is published by a sufficiently qualified academic).
4196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
You see the slippery slope yet?

Once again - you are having troubles understanding the academic world - important academics are not generally "rich" although they are also not generally "poor" either (so they don't work for nothing).

Their reputation amongst their peers is *all important* to them - they are not at all likely to risk their reputation through shoddy work that is going to be "peer reviewed".

Sure you could point as some examples say from "big tobacco" but understand that those scientists were paid "millions" not thousands.
4197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:34:27 PM
And I certainly wouldn't want people to say "oh, and that review they did? They paid $16,000 for it, so...".

You do realise that most university research into things like CO2 and global warming is paid for by large corporations the are in the generally not at all clean energy sphere?

A "respected" academic will have their reputation torn to pieces if their work is shoddy and deemed to be just "for money" so none will touch it "just for the money" unless the money is enough to make them no longer care about academia (and we are not offering anything like that amount).
4198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:30:43 PM
It seems to me u confused Nxt PoS algo and Nxt crypto algo. We collected 10 BTC for crypto audit only.

Oh - yes - seems I did - well I would prefer the 5 BTC I pledged to be on PoS analysis by an academic but if 10 BTC is not enough for the crypto audit then I will also be happy for it to go to that instead.

To be clear as long as what we are paying for is "transparent" (i.e. the funding is made publicly known) and the academic is "well known" (has been published in scientifically relevant journals for years and is at least a PhD to do with crypto) then I will go with either audit.
4199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
Perhaps the way it could be best handled is that the funds are donated to a university that employs academics rather than to any particular academic.

Or just pay per flaw found, like a bounty. Or wait until NXT is popular enough.

We already have bounties for flaws found - what we are looking for is a respected academic to thoroughly review Nxt and write a paper on it - minor glitches in algos are not really the issue as they can be easily fixed.

The real question is whether there is a major flaw in the PoS itself - if it can be *cheated* in any way easier than a >50% on Bitcoin then the whole thing about promoting PoS as >90% safe would be egg on the face of the devs and likely the end of the project.

And sure - if someone does this for nothing then that would save me 5 BTC so of course I would also be happy to wait until "Nxt is popular enough" but I do think this could speed up the process.
4200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 23, 2014, 04:05:55 PM
And you can juggle words however you like, it doesn't make it less wrong.

I certainly won't be donating 5 BTC towards anything that isn't 100% transparent and would assume the others pledging BTC would be expecting the same.

Perhaps the way it could be best handled is that the funds are donated to a university that employs academics rather than to any particular academic. Universities do most of their research this way so if you think that is wrong then I guess you think most academic work is wrong?
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