^ Combined 1.5B losses doesn't sound as bad as how much the last big stablecoin lost in pure BTC reserves.

Definitely more hurt for Saylor and far, far less for Elon ... when considering how much Tesla/MicroStrategy stocks themselves lost in the same period MS lost over $4B (still can't believe this guy put so much in BTC), Tesla over $500B, in just 2 months! Too lazy to look up how much shares of own company each personally has.

They definitely got tears in multiple buckets, not just BTC.

Some parts of the world still possible to maintain privacy more than others, today, as much as 30 years ago. I wasn't really paranoid or extreme in my pre-Europe life (circa 2016). It was simply that it was either possible to live without social media or smartphone (very successfully even without television or much internet for me up until 2013), or impossible to connect to them (no internet infrastructure).

And just simple practices made necessary by living conditions as a foreigner in impoverished places -- never take the same route same time, never let a taxi drop you off exactly at your address, never wear any branded clothes etc. As you say simple things like using a fake name/phone even persona.

Wasn't paranoid or extreme, just the way things are to be safe and mindful. Everyone did it =)

Europe and the added levels of security and state responsibility and welfare made it not only a necessity to be identified and verified constantly -- it also lulls you into a sense of comfort and safety, so you're always getting more lax. I now don't think twice about taking the same routes. Taking uber directly to my door. Signing in with my name.

I'm definitely less careful these days about Bitcoin use. Don't really know why, also the same laxness from this feeling of safety and comfort? Used to be always a new address, always separating wallets, no satoshi parked at an exchange even for a minute longer than necessary.

Now I reuse addresses. I label addresses for different uses rather than separate wallets. I do leave BTC in exchanges for days and weeks without active trades (Localbitcoin but it still counts).

^ Can't believe I missed this thread but yeah, game's really kind of gone, in many ways. Still entertaining for the most, but I personally lost my only local tie a decade ago when my club vanished.

A new club sprung up 2 years ago when a group of business people bought one club not even from my state and renamed it with my old club's name.

Nothing local about it though, except later on when they recruited locals and not that I'm partisan or anything (or hell maybe I am) but there was some crazy nostalgia thing about guys from your patch of the woods mixing it up with continental superstars on a stage they would never have seen if they didn't kick a ball better than regular joes.

Anyway, popped in here to ask if anyone knows any new streaming deals for EPL with English commentary coming to Europe?

Dazn came here in December, but no football.
Amazon (with forced UK settings + VPN) had some games for a while, but seems like it was a trial, not sure next season.
FOX and ESPN have a local stream but commentary NOT in English, not all games, and you've to pay out of your nose for everything.

IPTV crap's... tried and tested and never satisfactory.

Agree. I'm going to go out on a limb here and place a bet against NL today... Wales 65/10. Small bet, just to scratch my itch, everything else is just way too unreliable.

BTW the Caucasus and Central Asia teams have been really playing well... now Armenia took lead against Scotland (but just conceded and then JUST scored now heh). Could it be they see this as their best chance for international glory? Georgia, Armenia, Kazakh, Azerbaijan, damn. They're trouncing the traditional "lesser powers".

Yeah, the draw was a minor upset but since I took ML on Australia, my NZ bet today is rendered pointless. Not going to double down on that for the odds, when another draw to PK outcomes seems on the cards.

Love those states doing holiday things -- when Tirana hosted the Conference League final, they declared that day a public holiday I heard (which is strange as they weren't even playing haha) but I get it. My country always promises a holiday if we win the Asian Cup or even Thomas Cup (badminton). Funny but totally get it.

@bbc.reporter heh yeah, it's just so easy to shoot yourself in the foot when making predictions, analyses etc. Saw that Bitcoin dipped all the way to $21k earlier today, that was Saylor's margin call point, wasn't it? Know if he lost anything or did he dump in more collateral.

Bitcoin reserves to protect a stablecoin peg... hmm, where have I heard that debacle before? Funnier is probably that the model has been tried, tested and proven to fail many times!

Really? I always thought the biggest casinos (brick and mortar) loved doing stuff for their VIP players. Which I know Sportsbet does a lot too -- yeah, this forum's got a lot of loyal players but think there are a good number of whales who don't use crypto so the fact SB gives a lot of love to us is something of a generous anomaly ha!

I happen to know people like you (Turks) can go places, with the proper arrangements

They have a .co.uk brand in the UK, .io customers... well there're a lot of Brazilians, no Steve? I met one of their reps during the Liverpool-Flamengo CWC final.

Wen Sao Paolo meetup?

Not just newbies? In my experience, it's the semi-long to medium-term holders who're the most prone to panic heh. I can point to 2018 and 2019 to my own experiences. People who held for 2 cycles or more, thinking 20k was it, and "they should have exited at 10k".

Sure, we're still above (barely) 2017 ATH so technically anyone who bought before 2020 is still in profit but I can understand why people feel like they wasted opportunities and may need to wait another 5 years or so, so that's where the panic comes from.

Of course newbies panicking too. Newbies, to me, are those all quoted in the article list. Overnight experts created by the 2020/21 bull.

They're offloading their fear and some of the vets will be lapping it up...

I'm only a bit upset I haven't been taking bets like these, really. Forgivable offence at the start of the group games even if I always say that's the time to bet on upsets, but it's criminal not to be taking advantage of the shitty English/German/French/Italian football. So much about the "Big Five" leagues.

I've been getting a LOT of joy from the lower groups though, yesterday picked Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan (who won both as the underdogs) but just too bad I insist to put Group A on my tickets. Like leea said, France 1.5x was just too good to ignore on an acca. BAD choice. All my fault.

And a medal or something he can wear round his neck to mark him out like the true daddy cool he really is. Giving promotions and making contests is one thing, getting the right group of guys to help manage them on the forum, that's something else, and then to extend support to customers AND do meetups when he's surely got a crapload on his plate? I'd be pretty broken doing all that.

Multimaster I liked a lot too, but can totally understand why they took it away, shame though I still feel like there's unfinished business there as the only time I won had to share it with so many peeps haha.

Strangely, Soccer Blackjack is what got me juices going. I know it seemed terrible value at some point, but you pretty much got good wins by avoiding crap like Nations League heh

Oh man did he really fall for that nonsense? I can totally get behind a Bitcoin permatat (not on myself but well, I'd pat someone on the back for it) but this rando shitcoin I'd never heard of until last month?

Not that I used to think the world of him, but I'd never actually framed him to be one of those.

Anyway, as you say, times are a lot harder than most alive have experienced. Probably will get even tougher. Can't really bear to think how bad, but should no be deluded into thinking a cycle is en route.

Damn, that was risky then, but who'd have called an approach to 21k so soon, barely a month after the posting of that price, huh? 50% drop in a month, and using the same asset to borrow against to buy more of the same, that was a virtual double down on a risky position.

It's a crazy bet, probably one I'd have made myself in all honesty, to not see Bitcoin drop below previous ATH. Definitely would have done it in a blink if I had Micro's extra stash lying around.

Actually kind of pleased to see most of you are still banking on Peru, as are the bookies, which usually gives me more confidence that the team could end up being overconfident in sunny, hot, balmy Doha. The Aussies will be happier to be the underdog also so should play without pressure.

Just hope they make their height advantage count. They were pinging it all over the place without much effect against UAE but this time corners should pose more dangers.

Pretty dire, but this wasn't unexpected -- and I've to say his 20k and 1k valuations are scarily close enough to even be conservative. Considering that we're barely 25% away from those numbers right now.

As pooya says, definitely big smiles on the faces of guys like Schiff. But mind you, he's trying to get it even lower so he can re-up.

Oh he's into Bitcoin, even if he and his cut of cloth will never admit it.

Yeah, think most people here got it. There is no ultimatum with many of the choices we make in our lives. There is a more conscious way to ensure there's check and balance in the various governments that try to govern us -- not just with privacy (though that's probably the most important aspect they need to maintain surveillance and exert control over all other aspects).

I admit in the last 5/6 years I've definitely been more lax with privacy, due to relocation to Europe, where everything almost requires identification for the rights to reside. Lived and worked about 15 years prior in the global south and have managed to largely get by without so much as an email address.

Now I've willingly, even eagerly KYC'd on certain services, if only for ease of daily life, and those who depend on me. Crypto exchanges. Tax. But as soon as I'm done with the service, or their retention period is over, I request to be forgotten. Can't verify they forget me, but at least if it should come to a point later I discover they haven't, I have legal recourse.

Where possible, I make it very difficult to ID, or give an old document or wrong address etc.

So it's not one choice or the other. As long as everything you do in either direction is conscious, deliberate, and weighed in on cost-benefit, then you've done your part. No need to resign yourself, and no need to fight tooth and nail.

Man this did not age well, or shall we say, it aged terribly badly, terribly quickly!

Not laughing at your expense, bbc, I know I've stucky opinion into holes plenty so I am pot enough to not call out the kettle but yeah, he bought a lot, but it did not budge the market at the time.

Selling it shouldn't have either yet the BTC reserve selloff was roundly blamed or at least partially for the crash in BTC.

This. This is why all the Saylor and Bukele buys to me will never do much to lift prices.

That is the tough reality of markets. Few Fomo buy on the coattails of whale buys. But whale sells? Panic!!

Yup. Think there's a term bandied around recently and it's the proportion of Bitcoin holders who are "underwater" right now and that's everything to do with their average entry price. We may be in the depths of bear despair now but according to stats, we're still only less than half of Bitcoin holders being "underwater".

Previous crashes have seen up to 75% of holders bear the pain, suggesting we're not yet at that floor. We're just not enough of a nervous bunch yet heh heh.

Yeah, sorry about Ferrari guys, and I just read that 4 cars with Ferrari engines all failed and DNF. I do feel vindicated with a RB 1-2 finish, but should have been even colder about Ferrari, plucked LeClerc to get the last podium spot and paid the price.

Just not going anywhere for the prancing horse, but you know what they say, bad luck comes in threes and I suspect it will be another week of pain in Canada for them as I really don't see how they can extricate themselves out of this mess in 7 days.

Nice job rd. Looks like we're spreading the yellow caps a bit.

Yeah I'm actually really liking the Swiss against Portugal today for no other reason than for them to try and get one good win under their belt -- in a tourney where the big guns have been really shy. Yes, they got hammered a week ago by 4 goals but time for some Swiss revenge and a brace of goals/assists from MLS's highest paid player, don't you think?

That's my bet anyway, still going with a draw or win in pool.

Definitely one of those who's eyeing the halving. Every other indicator for me's become less and less reliable (though to be technical, 200MA is still something I comfort myself with when days are dark) but halving is something that seems to remind the markets of what's tried and true: that new supply is encroaching sub 1 BTC.

That said, fundamentals and underlying market foundations have never been more different with each new cycle, so while trends and patterns should largely follow the conventional assembly line of top, capitulation, accumulation etc. I think the peaks (and corresponding floors) are what can no longer be predicted.

I really like the 250k target but that's still about 300% gain from the Nov ATH... a first time Bitcoin will surpass the performance of the last ATH-on-ATH.