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4181  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 07:23:21 PM
US West just had a bit of packet loss resulting in some idles/disconnects.  At this time I can't say if it was the server or the ISP having the issue.  Absolutely nothing unusual on any of the pushpools or pfsense.

All clear up to the two entries listed below.

   .2% packet loss @ aliix-gw.ip4.tinet.net
11.7% packet loss @ aliix.10ge5-1.cr1.lax3.awknet.com






What address were you tracing and using to measure the packet loss.  I need something concrete to send to my host to figure out where this issue is coming from.  Servers are showing NONE of the usual idle signs.
4182  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
US West just had a bit of packet loss resulting in some idles/disconnects.  At this time I can't say if it was the server or the ISP having the issue.  Absolutely nothing unusual on any of the pushpools or pfsense.
4183  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 06:01:38 PM
ok,  thats it.  I'm donating 5% for a while.   

Thanks again. 
Jiim


speaking of donation.  it would be very kool to see the list of top x donate rs.  I am usually between 25th - 75th  top  shares, but many above me do not donate anything.  I would love to see the top 10 donations per block.  Especially since I have not actually found a block yet.  (glad I did not go solo, avg about 4G for a month with no block!)



With how smooth things have been going today, I may squeeze in a little time to get the Hall of Fame back in, with Top 100 Donators and Top 100 Block Finders.
4184  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2220 GH/s] Slush's Bitcoin Mining Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz) on: July 13, 2011, 05:54:45 PM
I can honestly say, after using slush for a couple of days while btcguild was down, that I feel sorry for the people who mine with slush full time.

Can you explain why?

Should be obvious - if you don't switch pools when one is DDoS'd then your rig is sitting idle not making money.

Slush - what's the word on service? Are you considering any kind of SiteBacker DNS load balancing to help with traffic distribution between colos - that's helped some of my environments with DDoS.

I'm sorry, but I think smackdady is all right.
After atack in sunday, I have about 0.011 BTC for any block with my 440 MHash - about 0.3 for day.
On Monday, I have only 0.008 for block. Now with ~210 MHash I have 0.003 - 0.005 for block.

I wait result today but supose, I will have only 0.11 BTC for 24h.
On btcguld, with 230 MHash I have 0.163 BTC in last 24 hours. This about 40% more.
Something its not good with this pool.

A swing that wide is not uncommon when comparing two pools over a 24 hour period.  The other day BTC Guild had -39% luck.  BTC Mine had an insane +90% luck.  You would have made significantly more at BTC Mine than BTC Guild, even with a 2% fee vs 0%.  Pools are NOT immune to short term variance.  They are simply more likely to provide stable variance over a reasonable time frame.  You can see at BTC Guild our variance over the last two difficulties was +0.2% and -0.4%.  But those numbers included swings from -30 to +30 if you were to look at any given 24 hour period.
4185  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Mining pool features table on: July 13, 2011, 05:36:42 PM
BTC Guild switched to paying out all 8 decimals.
4186  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining will always be barely profitable on: July 13, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
The funny thing about mining profitability is how electricity is priced (at least in most of the US).

Large scale miners pay more per kWh than hobbyist miners.  In MOST of the US (I have yet to hear of any state/area that it is different), you end up paying more for electricity as your usage grows to certain threshholds.  In CA, the base level is around 13-15 cents per kWh.  When I was mining with 7 rigs (14 video cards), almost all the electricity usage was classified in top tier due to high usage for the month.  Top tier pricing is 42 cents per kWh.

The overhead becomes significantly higher once you try to expand beyond a few cards in the computer you already had turned on 24/7.
4187  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 02:07:50 PM
ALERT: the wallet address associated with my account recently changed without my input, and now my confirmed rewards are 0.  (Previously they were 0.04 btc).  Not a huge amount of coin, but still...

Here is the offending wallet address: 14WosrXn3jMZ5frLbxgs4URCRvvfLYQBMq.  I just changed it back to my real address, and I've updated my password, too.

(I guess someone finally cracked my Mt Gox password.  I thought it was relatively secure, but perhaps not.  Boo!)

This is why I had that notice on the site header for almost a full week after the leak.  If you used the same password: CHANGE IT!  If you were using the same password on multiple sites, odds are it wasn't as secure as you think (unless it was something you had to copy/paste...but thats a whole other discussion about poor password security).
4188  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
Hrm getting

Payout Request

Your request did not contain a valid security token. Please try again.

Tried logging out and in again and still the same.

Something gone sideways with the server right now?

Clear your cache.  The security token is a cross site form request exploit prevention to prohibit a malicious site from tricking you into requesting payouts, changing wallets, emails, or passwords.
4189  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 06:26:31 AM
Will the eu server be back?

I'm shopping around for a host that can offer hardware similar to what is in place in US West.  My goal is to consolidate us down to 2-3 servers with roughly the same setup, each one capable of holding well over 2.5 TH/sec, since we were around 3.2 TH and still growing before the DDoSes took us down.  The second server is being shipped to Texas tomorrow and will eventually replace US Central & East.  So far the only comparable EU servers I've found cost nearly twice as the US ones do, which is funny considering the old server hardware was significantly cheaper in EU.

For those afraid of losing East and Central - US West was a project that I've been preparing for since we hit 2 TH/sec a few weeks ago.  There is no way to iron out these bugs in a test environment, due to the nature of the problems (block solving, long-polling, and a massive number of unique IPs hitting a source-based load balancer).  The kinks have almost been completely ironed out based on the last couple hours (and block solves), and the new Central wont be replacing the old servers until I'm positive it can handle the load as well or better than the current servers.
4190  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 05:12:40 AM
thanks again.
I was wondering if you can make the list of workers sorted?  I did not put all my workers in at one time and it is hard to distinguish between one rig and another.
btw, your interface for monitoring is what keeps me, not the 0% fee
txs
Jim

Worker stats are now in alphabetical order as they were before the DDoS.  Not included on the timeline is the ability to have a resettable share/stale counter rather than just round/total.  Reset stats should be back on the 14th.
4191  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 04:29:39 AM
It still seems to be getting an idle when the server manages to find a block, but it only lasts about 10-15 seconds based on monitoring my personal miners.

Any plans to fix that in the future? 10-15seconds is enough time to knock my miners into backup mode.
Also, 10-15 seconds of idle time is roughly 1% wasted for a 25min round, which adds up in the long run.

I can confirm the stale shares has been greatly improved, good work!


I just tweaked the load balancer (which is what caused the idles and disconnects), and when we found a block I only saw about 3 seconds idle time, from the pushpool instance that actually found the block.  This time it didn't kill off the LP connection/server connection, just a short idle spurt.  I'm working on finding out if its the LB or Pushpool that is causing the final small delay.  It may be pushpool hanging for a moment while it opens up SQL connections with the other servers to publish the new block.

Timeline for the rest of the week/weekend can be found at: http://www.btcguild.com/timeline.php
4192  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 13, 2011, 03:14:11 AM
Stales are indeed GREATLY reduced (they're not gone, and I'm sure someone will come in complaining about 91.13% stales right after I go to bed).  The load balancer is now functioning far better on US West.  It still seems to be getting an idle when the server manages to find a block, but it only lasts about 10-15 seconds based on monitoring my personal miners.
4193  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 09:32:52 PM
Just changed the pushpool configurations on US West.  Spoke with jine eariler, and there is some unknown bug in the Longpoll Keep-alive patch, which could very well be the culprit for a number of the problems today.

The next step if this doesn't improve stability is rolling back to pushpool and bitcoind stock code rather than the RPC keepalive/built in long polling versions.  Running out of items to cross off the list of trouble makers.



UPDATE:  ~50 minuets later.  497 shares on my phoenix miners (the "worst" for stales), 0 rejected.  0 idles.  0 long poll disconnects.  Looking promising.
4194  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 08:09:33 PM
Reporting my observation:

Everytime a block is found, 2 of my 3 workers automatically switch to my backup pool.
Which means there must be some idle or connection error when a round is finished.

You can also notice right before last block was found we're at 2000G+,
we dropped to 1700-1800G after finding a block.

The idles when we find a block are the root of the invalid problem.  I thought it was related to the calculation script, but I've profiled the time it takes to complete the different steps and the entire thing only runs for about 5 seconds, only about 1 second per server.

I'm thinking this is related to a bitcoind patch or the long poll keepalive patch.
4195  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
Thanks for all the hard work  Smiley

In order for you to do testing and track down the problem I think we need to find a block once every 5 minutes for the next hour. Think that should give you some good testing data  Cheesy


Unless it's broken, in which case that means I'd be losing about $200 every 5 minutes on invalid payouts...
4196  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
I ran a small test run (added a 5th pool to the load balancer for about 3 minutes) using testnet.  The problem is either fixed, or NOT directly related to the publishing of new blocks.  Won't be able to verify until we find a block on US West.
4197  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 05:13:59 PM
Stales went way down on US West with the patch about an hour ago.  Still having a very odd issue where the load balancer is spiking in CPU usage when running a block calculation, which is why you're getting idles.

I'm working on figuring out what about the calculation script is creating the problem.  This is my absolute top priority, because we just got screwed out of blocks (2 invalids in a row) due to the server essentially going offline before it was able to report the blocks on the network.  Same thing happened with the 2 invalids a couple days ago.
4198  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Made some changes to the DB and the new block code to hopefully fix the idles at LP.  This is why a lot of you probably had idles in the last 5 minutes.
4199  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 01:19:52 PM
I started a fresh miner an hour ago to check for rejects and so far everything is good.
I am using uswest and have 436/3

Keep up the good work!

EDIT: LOL, well so much for that. It worked right upto the next round. Disconnected + idle for over a minute.

Adding some timing profile code to the end of round calculations to figure this one out.  The queries being run on the servers should not be tying up the resources long enough for idles, but looking at my logs last night it seems like all but one of my idles overnight was due to a round ending.

The stales improved quite a bit overall, but they're still higher than normal.  It seems to be related to the LP taking longer to push out than it should, even though the server has already moved on.  Still optimizing, but in general the new server is performing well (No crash overnight, the idles have been identified as clustered around end of round calculations, and stales are better with a trail to why they're higher than they were earlier this week).
4200  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~2700 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, LP, SSL, API, Full Decimal Payouts and more on: July 12, 2011, 05:08:31 AM
Hopefully the latest round of updates fixed the stales.  This afternoon I went back and rolled in the patches to pushpool that I had been slacking on, something went awry on the rejects due to roll_ntime.  Disabled it as jine did on his pool and things are already looking much better.
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