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421  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin split on: August 01, 2017, 06:11:19 PM
BCC has forked, but has not solved a block yet so BCC is not officially forked yet.
422  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Screw it on: August 01, 2017, 04:38:57 PM
It may take 62885098217.15 Day(s) to mine a block, but you NEVER know.
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is BCC an altcoin? on: August 01, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
Yes, if it weren't it would be called "Bitcoin"
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain Cash has yet to mine a single block. on: August 01, 2017, 02:52:51 PM
There is going to be like a 2 day delay as soon as it forks to get your BCC onto an exchange to dump.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is there so much negativity over the "bitcoin cash" coin? on: August 01, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
Satoshi wanted 1 MB blocksize, so I support him.

Create an alt-coin if you think you have a better idea. We should leave Bitcoin alone to honor Satoshi and as an experiment. Why risk ruining Bitcoin when it has been running 8+ years solid.
426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy First Overly Dramatic Bitcoin Hard Fork Guys! on: August 01, 2017, 01:13:32 PM
Happy Alt coin Air drop
427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's going on??? on: August 01, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
lol when block with size more than 1mb poop up ? it is possible ?

It is possible there will be big blocks pooping up all over the place
428  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Screw it on: August 01, 2017, 12:43:34 PM
No blocks yet!

429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin (btc) close to $3,000 on: August 01, 2017, 06:22:33 AM
I think people are buying BTC to get the free BCC so they can dump for more BTC.
430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: attempts to "rebrand" Bitcoin Cash won't work and look pathetic on: August 01, 2017, 06:20:12 AM
I prefer Bitcoin Crap personally. It's like Bitcoin took a Crap and wha-la... brand new Alt-coin.
431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are You A Sellout (Or Did You Hodl)? on: August 01, 2017, 06:14:48 AM
432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [BREAKING NEWS]: It Is Now 1st August 00:00 UTC on: August 01, 2017, 06:07:42 AM
There is a countdown clock so the fork will take place a few hours from now so you can watch it live here if all is successful. Enjoy watching the clock: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20170801T1220&p0=1440&msg=Bitcoin+Cash+Hardfork&font=sanserif Grin

That's pretty neat, but BitcoinCash.org says it's going to happen after 12:20 UTC.

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The criterion for activation of the Bitcoin Cash hard fork activation is based on "Median Time Past", or MTP. This means that the chain split will not occur at exactly 12:20 UTC on Aug. 1st, but some time after.

MTP is a statistic calculated over 11 blocks, and trails behind wall clock time by about 6 blocks. This means that the last common block will be approximately the 6th block with a timestamp after 12:20pm. The block after that will be different on either chain.

Source: https://www.bitcoincash.org/activation

Here are some other tools:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/mempool/blocks
https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/
433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No fork detected--> Segwit is now active UASF is active! WE did it! on: August 01, 2017, 05:58:54 AM
So you mean to say that Bitcoin will not split and we can't get Bitcoin Cash or something like this.

Bitcoin Cash is something different and not happening for a few more hours.
434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: attempts to "rebrand" Bitcoin Cash won't work and look pathetic on: August 01, 2017, 05:39:30 AM
I am fine with Bitcash, because Bitcoin Cash just sounds so retarded. Seriously who was the fucking dumb ass that gave it that name?

Just wait till Bitcoin Cash forks into Bitcoin Cash Gold Credit Card (BGC)
435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: August 01, 2017, 05:34:42 AM
WTF?

I initially thought Satoshis Bitcoin was about economic, tech and game theory... -> perfect eCash for ALL.

Now I see here its rather about people and soap opera?

Looks like that many 'users' are mostly active in posting nonsense and horsing around, rather not in directing all our power and brains in a better solution, community and most important Bitcoin's REPUTATION to the inner and outer side this entire opera is seen in the end ...?

Back to work! Make Bitcoin great again - not soapy!


 Wink


My work here is to do pure analysis of WHY we have this opera:

Its all about a single line of the protocol

Where many would agree about, it is not a consensus pillar

Rather a user specific setting to allow free optimization and adjustments to market reactions

Such a minor param, that even Satoshi lost not much brain upon, rather sth like, it needs to be lifted when time is near and Moores law helps for the rest.

And due to growth and work scaling issues Satoshi resigned, not to be seen as a person, a king like leader, not to be a single point of failure and he diversified himself to a bunch of new dev persons. Carrying the responsibilities to next levels.

Now we need to do the next level, which is clearly diversifying TEAMs to spread responsibilites.

If core does like Satioshi did and showed it works, they need to step back (from behaving like a king) and lets diversify ideas, work and responsibilities through many, but friendly competing teams.

This is the big future for Satoshi Bitcoin!

Satoshi showed us all and we know, he will never come back as Satoshi, or this diversification mechanics will be obsolete.

Satoshi clearly said he didn't want his software forked and he didn't believe in several implementations of bitcoin:


I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.  So much of the design depends on all nodes getting exactly identical results in lockstep that a second implementation would be a menace to the network.  The MIT license is compatible with all other licenses and commercial uses, so there is no need to rewrite it from a licensing standpoint.

Why are we even still disusing this? It's clear that the game theory behind how bitcoin works does not benefit from "several competing bitcoins".

If your ideas don't make the cut in the main branch it's because they aren't good enough. If you want to compete, then make your own altcoin and if people think it's better than the existing Bitcoin, then people will sell their Bitcoins for your supposed "better-than-current-Bitcoin" altcoin, but don't pretend to cause this hardfork drama every now an then thinking you are doing a favor to anyone, because you are just making the price crash, all for nothing because at the end of the day, people aren't going to trust hardforking amateurs with their money.

Im still waiting for a clear statement of Roger Ver claiming that he will sell all of his BTC for BCC. If he really thinks BCC is better than BTC, he surely will dump them right?

+1 for Satoshi
436  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin: A big ride is about to come on: August 01, 2017, 05:10:00 AM
It should have been obvious the price would rise leading up to the fork, because you're getting free Bitcoin Cash for all your Bitcoins. I made a thread about this when Bitcoin dropped to $1900 saying you should be buying Bitcoins and what do you know the price has risen nearly $1000 2 weeks since I made that post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2026015.0
437  Bitcoin / Mining / Screw it on: August 01, 2017, 04:45:57 AM
I'm firing up my Solo CPU miner on my old laptop with Core node using "Compromised Alert Keys". This is for you Satoshi!
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did the BCC fork already happen or what, i'm confused! on: August 01, 2017, 04:34:38 AM
Fork no it hasn't forkin forked yet. There is BCC futures trading on ViaBTC and Yobit trading imaginary BCC because withdrawals/deposits are halted.

Heck there isn't even a dang block explorer for Bitcoin Cash yet, is this for real?
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) price tomorrow gon' be like..... on: August 01, 2017, 04:30:43 AM
Everyone giving BCC so much attention tells me that people are worried about it being successful. hmmm..


It's getting so much attention because it is the first time something like this happens. BCC, unlike BU, is happening and there is some miner support. People are also moving their coins out of exchanges etc.

Will it be successful? Maybe. Will it come even close to the success of Bitcoin? Hell no.

Bitcoin Cash (BCH and not anymore BCC) can have a life of its own because there are now some number of supporters of the altcoin this early and if it can prove something that it can also survive in a sea of new coins/tokens then there is a big possibility that more and more will support it.

BCH should not anymore be taken as something like an enemy to the real Bitcoin in the same manner that we don't view that way when we talk about Litecoin and Ethereum...let it takes its place as an altcoin. Right now, Bitcoin's value is not affected by BCH in fact this can even push its value to the sky because we would be able to see the big difference between the two.

But would it be possible that later on Bitcoin Cash can proven itself to be better than Bitcoin? Hmmm...let me have it a topic in another post.



I see your point and agree, that Bitcoin Cash may take its place as an purposeful alt-coin. It just bothers me at all the people that are trying to change Bitcoin from what Satoshi intended. We should leave Bitcoin the way it is as an honor to Satoshi as well as an experiment to see how it turns out. Let all the alt-coins try new configurations and algorithms. If they really are better than people will switch. It's not worth the risk in ruining Bitcoin because people want faster confirmations or lower fees.

That said, I would have more respect if Bitcoin Cash didn't try to profit off the Bitcoin brand and came up with an original name. Just call it what it is, an alt-coin.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fastest way to Dump BCC tomorrow at 12:20pm UTC? Timing is important on: August 01, 2017, 04:24:22 AM
Roger Ver has already said that he is ready to dump his huge Bitcoin stash (estimated to be worth around BTC300,000) to purchase BCC. If the Bitcoin Cash lists at around BTC0.01, then Ver just needs to spend 25% of his coins to purchase half of all the BCC tokens.

Let's see if he puts his bitcoins where his mouth is.
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