If it were easy to be rich, everybody would be rich,

Exchange and casinos ( day-trading rackets ) were not part of the original BTC

1.) Getting 1 BTC a day mining, well TOP machine s-9 for $1500 USD net's about $5/day, less electricity you net a cool $1, thus it would take twenty years to profit 1BTC.

U might want to consider mining high value alt-coins, there are now 2,000 'shit-coin' where shit is non-BTC, BTC is valuable because its hard to get, can't have it both way's to have it worth say $7500 USD, but easy to get.

U want 'easy' then U may want to consider alt-coins, which is a different forum, U can select a GPU mine-able coin where you could get your one-a-day as you wish. Personally I like mining as their is NO record U got it, when U buy, you create record forever U spend, it goes back to that bank transfer.

Let's assume U don't want anonymity, by virtue that your willing to send complete strangers your personal data & photo over the internet.

I think someone like U it might be best to go to Singapore/Hong-Kong where you could buy ton's of BTC as you wish, easy to move around, just get some diamonds or some kind of wealth you can carry not detectable and then trade that wealth in a country of your choice, this requires traveling, just make sure the high value item has high-value where your going.

In general MOST exchanges are the weak link they are the CRIMINAL weakness of BTC, too easy for a criminal to open an exchange and then U lose your BTC's, thus its important not use exchanges, again WHY we MINE.

It's no longer possible to MINE BTC

Another thing in your case is to sell a high value item such as real estate or GOLD for BTC, there are many forums to arrange such transfers, many chinese have BTC, and would love more USA real estate, u just need to match up needs.

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Again I agree to where you are going, personally I avoid exchanges in fact I never use them ever, just my preference, as I want anonymity, and an exchange is always a honey-pot, and most are just ran by local tax authoritys.

Thus  you are right, BTC doesn't need the 'exchange' and many people don't use them.

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IMHO if U R a high balance individual I would consider TRAVEL, go live in a place where BTC is abundant bring in money on wire think MACAU spend all your money on 'Gambling', then have your private-key RFID it on a chip in your backside, then u never lose your private-key, travel as you wish, and there is never a thing for authority's to find.

U can work for BTC, code for BTC, write for BTC assuming your of working age, if our retired then sell off your assets for BTC,

If U want to keep your BTC, then never go near an exchange, that's where people lose their BTC's, second way ppl lose BTC is having weak-passwords like brain-wallets. U need to make sure your private-key is super high entropy.

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There are no false promises, the problem is the con-men make all the noise, and your listening to them.

Perhaps spend more time on your local craigslist and try to meetup with people who regularly trade in BTC, and learn to gain trust and vice-verse, CL is worldwide there are many such social sites where people who trade can meetup, public meetings find a bitcoin club near u, you'll probably meet ton's of ppl who will trade BTC in local currency.

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BTC is a way to preserve your wealth, if the economy collapses you can travel and never carry your wealth, it will always be on that chip, and nobody knows what it means, or you can tattoo 24 random words on you bottom of your foot if you don't like chips.

U read these forums and you would think that everybody is a BTC day-trader, but Your right that was never the intention of BTC.

ANYBODY who spent REAL BITCOIN got fucked to buy this shit coin

anybody that took their BTC out of cold storage got fucked

I said all along "TURN GOLD INTO SHIT"

They took BTC and turned it into BTG/BCH (shit)

That said, mining is ok, hell I mined a bunch solo the first two hours when everybody was fucking around, that's probably why BTG_DEV wants to reset the block-chain and do it over, too many of us fucked them at their own game

I'll keep my BTG forever, I'm sure the CHINESE billionaires will market it as the next BCH, the memory span of day-traders here is minutes.

We do, because the ASSHOLES who did this are ANONYMOUS, so YOU CANNOT compare, this criminal act was well planned,

I concur it was always about stealing the BITCOIN, as people had to sell BTC on YOBIT.NET to buy 'virtual BTG".

YOBIT.NET is Russian, BTG went from china in aug2017, to yobit.net, who passed it off to Bulgaria,

The chinese were pissed that they were mining the wrong block-chain, so actually most of the chinese-russian pools fucked themselves first day of mining as ONLY BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC was mining the correct pool.

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I repeat this SCAM was pulled off by RUSSIAN, BULGARIAN, and CHINESE criminals. Now rich white USA entrepreneurs were needed.

Who is worrying?

This is funnier than hell, I just want to know who spent $500 USD in BTC, 3 weeks ago on YOBIT.NET to buy this shitty future?

Today that $50M is $16M, but still not bad, for a Bulgarian retard, a chinese midget, and an ASIC miner for a few weeks work, not bad at all

Lastly, since 'launch' the dev's have completely dissapeared on github.com/btcgpu is full of HORROR-STORY's about people losing their BTC

It turns out when NEWB's install BTG that they over-write their BTC folder, wallet.dat and all

The thing is BTG has NOT a damn thing to do with BTC, not even the same block-chain, the lazy bastards who did the CLONE, were too lazy to change path-names and the newbs thought they could just use their existing block-chain, so as to save time,

FYI the BTC block is 1MB and the BTG is 2MB and the data-structure is totally different, ...

If this were a private company the BTG-DEVS would be seeing the rest of their lives in court for civil-damages

It's bad enough on its own, but toss in these 1,000's ppl who want their 0.05BTG "AIRDROP NOW", I guess they all need the money so they can trade shit-coins on yobit.net, lets see 0.05 BTC ( avg held by bitcoin address holders ), that be $300, but $10 in BTG at todays price and they want to sell.

Please explain the urgency to get $10?? I really want to know??

The entire infrastructure of BTG doesn't work, cuz nobody cared to set it up, the BTG-DEV team got their pre-mine and skipped town, and the 'air drop refugees' ain't much different, once they get their $10, probably $5 tomorrow, they're gone.

OK, $10 buys you 20,000 BITCOIN-Z, hell that's day trading at its best

Can't anybody here rob their little brothers piggy bank??

Just wait a few days to get the BTG problems resolved.

IMHO it has more to do with BITMAIN, who has been requiring people to BUY BCH in order to BUY antminers for months? Had this not been going on BCH would have just died,

Take BITMAIN who owns 100's of 1,000's of BTC, it just sloshes back&forth like the "Mark Faber" model of the worlds money, I don't see much net-loss BITMAIN/ALIBABA want the "BITCOIN BRAND", they SELL BTC drop the price park their money in BCH, and then SELL, and go back into BTC, the little people get hurt, and the PRESS reports that BTC is unstable,

The game goes on until the assholes at NYA/BCH/SEG get their way

Best thing for the community to do is nothing, just sit back and watch the show,

AS YOU ALL KNOW eventually it all has to come back int BTC, these 'whales' chinese-billionaires aren't stupid,

But YES, the morons who follow the trend, the day-traders they get wiped out, cuz they're not in control of anything, they're just pawn

I don't why ppl just don't do what SATOSHI does keep it in cold storage, and enjoy the show, but never let you BTC near one of these criminal exchanges

Nothing is wrong here people the fee's are FINE, BTC is  a rich mans currency, paying $5 to transfer $100k without GOV interference is a small price to pay.

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Lastly, I don't really understand the concern here, the average American doesn't have $500 USD in the bank, ergo he don't own a BTC, and most of the players own 0.05 BTC, the number or 'RICH' is small, and again most of these RICH made their money elsewhere and brought it in as a safe place to store, where it can't be stolen by gov, ex-wives, or the cops.

BTC will continue to RISE cuz the RICH have no place else to store their wealth, US DOLLAR will fail in coming years, expect to see BTC to raise dramatically.

CHINA knows this, this is why they're trying to steal the BITCON-BRAND today.

+90% of world black market illegal activity - human slavery, selling children for sex, drugs, black market oil, human blood & tissue is all done in US DOLLAR, this is the way CIA keeps it, and this is WHY US-DOLLAR is accepted world wide.

GOV hates competition, GOV hates BITCOIN

Columbia, Panama, everywhere on earth cartels quit using the US-DOLLAR for import/export CIA went in and shut them down, all black markets on earth trade US-DOLLAR, never forget that is how the system operates to keep the PETRO-DOLLAR active. Even IRAQ/LIBYA was about 'failure' to buy/sell oil in USD, same now with IRAN, same with RUSSIA, anybody that try's to do business outside the US-DOLLAR meets an early death.

BITCOIN will never even get 1% of the illegal black-market operation ran by US-GOV & US-TREASURY, why do you think that GUNS is under TReasury? The US-DOLLAR is the about Death

The point of this thread is to tie BTC to illegal drugs, but the fact is you can't talk about illegal drugs without mentioning that its 99% transacted in USD, even AFGHANISTAN is about forcing old OPIUM on earth to be bought&sold in USD.

R U really an engineer? Tier 1, or Tier 4, CMU/MIT, or UofID??

It took 20 years of the bright-test minds of CRYPTO to finally solve the puzzle, the most advanced HW on earth is all being deployed to mine coin's; 99% of the  ppl on these forums don't know C++, and couldn't code or read code if their life depended upon it,

If your making more money on COIN, than your day-job, then you must be one under-paid engineer, its a hobby for most at best, just because since 2004 its gone up 10X doesn't mean that trend will continue, not that many people have made BIG money in BTC, most of people came here rich to begin with,

BTC is jut the beginning, the US Dollar is DEAD, and the Chinese need to get their wealth out of China, Governments print FIAT that they use for war, CRYPTO changes everything.

Take a little boy name Buterin, just a typical nerd but super coder at 14 years of age, because of his TECH SKILLS today he's a BILLIONAIRE, now tell us what was it that made him a billionaire?? The TECH or lack of hair on testicals??

Lot's of people get rich, but its going to be the people who MAKE the tech, who know the tech, and the people who come here rich, and move their money into BTC so they can hide it from GOV,

The secret of MONEY is keeping your money, and BTC allows people to hide their wealth anonymously, like SATOSHI, a hidden billionaire.

Satoshi wasn't TECH, he was a MATH CRYPTO guy, but he wrote code, and solved TECH problems that nobody before could solve, now today the world adopts that tech.

IMHO U shouldn't be an engineer, you seem to have no interest in what makes the world tick, BITCOIN is not the last word in synthetic-crypto-currency, this is only the beginning,

But mark this notion, its ALL tech, the people who DAY-TRADE BITCOIN bring NO value to the table, never have, and never will.

not normal, majority here are bots, then minority post on mobile phone, that make me abnormal

IN A WORLD of SHIT-COINS, yes BCH is KING.

There fixed it for you.

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Two facets

1.) Why did BCH not die in the first place? The reason is its owned by BITMAIN (alibaba) some of the richest guys in CHINA, who also own most of the bitcoin, they were forcing people for the past months to buy antminers with BCH, which kept the price high, selling BTC/USD for BCH

2.) Now that SEGWIT2 died, then CHINA-ASIC has no choice but to go for broke, so they launched BTG and they sold BTC and bought BCH, they long ago announced they want the BITCOIN-BRAND, they want to replace BITCOIN with BCH/BTG, but call all the new under their control "BITCOIN"

All this is quite simple, they want to OWN it all, these are the richest people in the world, and even BILL GATES has said "U  can't stop BITCOIN", so its a TROPHY for the richest people on EARTH to control BITCOIN.

The ASIC CHINESE BIllionaires are XIAN-CHINESE, part of the old silk-road tribes, they are ASHKENAZI, and they want to rule the world.

As of an HOUR ago, the different WARRING teams hadn't even decided WHOSE blockchain was correct most of the pools and exchanges under china/russian control were mining the wrong block-chain, ergo THEY ARE  fucked, U don't want to transact with a chain that will be deleted. Hold your horses.

Only a few hours ago BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC won the war, their block-chain was accepted as under BITCOIN rules the longest block-chain rules, the chinese BTG-DEV scammers didn't see it that way, but they lost out. The trouble is most the fly by night scammer pools, exchanges, wallets, ... are all using the FUCKED block-chain

I would give this thing a little while to wash-out

FUCK YES, download your own full-node and things should work fine, that said there are NO instruction anywhere how to build a correctly functional NODE that generates the correct chain, I learned by 3 weeks of trial&error, and ditto for SUPRNOVA.CC that did it right before they went live.

If U have the time, then yes download the github https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues, and build the linux core/cli, and then you can get good balances, do your own transactions, and do gen your own addresses, for now assume that ALL the SHIT pools, exchanges and wallets on line are using the SHIT block-chain, most are still in denial, as it means that ALL BLOCKS mined in the past 32 hours are lost and must be deleted, its a fucking nightmare, but only the STUPID were harmed.[

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues

People are not happy that trusted BTG, lots of story's about people wiping out their BTC blockchains, some even destroying their existing wallets.

First of all BTG is NOT a fork, or snap-shot or anything ITS a BRAND-NEW BTC CLONE NOT COMPATIBLE with Bitcoin, lots of people installed the software an wiped out their existing BITCOIN directory, wallet and all,

"Failure to Communicate" was the order of the day

1.) Exchanges are still unable to allow people to sell, people report 12+ hour confirmation times and lost coins, exchanges were the last to sync the block chain, but EVEN BTG-DEV themselves SYNCED to the wrong block-chain and had to delete all the work done yesterday

2.) Pools were all mining a different block chain yesterday, only BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC was running the correct block-chain, thus only the people there did constructive work, all else were pissing their hash into the wind.

3.)Probably the biggest news is that BTG-DEV demanded that supernova.cc delete their block-chain and adopt the failed chinese block-chain, suprnova resfused and won the battle pointing out that in BITCOIN, the longest block wins,, not there fault that the majority of CHINESE pools & exchanges were all being led by TEAM-MORON BTG-DEV

4.) Fall-Out continues, END Users are horrified to find out this was not a FORK but a complete wipe-out of existing Bitcoin software, again failure to communicate all along BTG-DEV called this BITCOIN-GOLD, but the fact is BTG doesn't have anything  to do with BITCOIN, other than they hacked the orginal source.

All is GOOD now on BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC they're finding +90% of all blocks, difficulty has actually decreased because so many people have walked away from BTG in disgust.

Price is holding well with yobit.net claiming $300, and top-teir exchanges paying out about $200, but from all records its very hard to "SELL", there are NO BUYERS.


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Complaints on GITHUB.COM are ramping up, but no feedback from developers for days, it seems after their $50M USD pre-mine, they have skipped town and gone back to China.

Binary's are now available at GITHUB.COM for windows & linux, but no report on whether its the same source, questionable as the source doesn't have any seed-nodes, not having the source and not having seed-nodes makes it very hard, sure a smart person could find the seed-nodes and put them into bitcoin.conf, but most users are not sophisticated, especially given there are NO instructions or README material, problem is ALL dev's of BTG "ENGLISH WAS NOT THERE NATIVE LANGUAGE"


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https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues

Personally I will NOT touch that BTG binary, no way in hell, you don't know what is inside, just a warning.


For now most chatter is just fence sitters TRYING to SELL their BTG, why not buy & hold?? Problem is most ppl don't have any money, and want to get their FREE MONEY NOW! Trouble is the majority fall into that trap. The exchanges have no buyers, and thus they are dragging their asses.

The exchanges are still having massive problems with the block-chain, as deciding which one was "kosher" was only determined an hour ago.

IMHO I would wait a week before doing any pool/exchange transaction with BTG, they're aren't ready.

For solo mining, or running your own full-node I find things are working fine, I'm getting correct balance, and i'm not seeing any problems and my block-chain is showing same shit as BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC the correct block-chain.

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We still need MORE non-chinese full nodes under control in non-asic held enemy lands. If U wish to be a good soldier then run a FULL-NODE, download the source. Make sure to get the correct seed-nodes.

Fill chainaparamsseed.h, to do so run the python script in /shared folder on distro, and it will generate a .H file with all seeds, first run with -Bootstrap which will read all BITCOIN block up to 491407, then stop and remove and re-run BGoldD without -bootstrap, this will continue past fork block up to present.

What the BTG-DEV's did by leaving out the seeds is that they made their chinese seed-node the central, but they banned so many sites in their zealous hatred of the righteous that the bit off their own nose, to spite their face. Thus they destroyed their own ability to build a block-chain "FAST", because they didn't communicate their SCAM pools & exchanges failed also to build the correct block-chain.

SUPRNOVA.CC of course not being a prison for retards simply built the block-chain the correct way, and tested things.

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Going foreward MORE good full-nodes, so that at the very least the righteous can over-whelm enemy forces at china-asic, aka xian-ashkenazi; Silkroad planning schedule is to STEAL the bitcoin brand by any means possible, so its up to SATOSHI PEOPLE to step up to the plate and ENFORCE the Satoshi way of doing bitcoin business.

Confirmations seem to be taken more than 12 hours, after shit is found on btg.suprnova.cc

Quite long usually stuff gets confirmed in 2-4 hours

Just keep your shorts on be patient, no hurry

The trust level is VERY low, suprnova.cc doesn't want to pay out what's not there's, the ASSHOLES BTG-DEV are just pissing everyone off, with their demands to reset the block-chain, cuz the chinese didn't pull off the scam like they thought, turns out the people at suprnova.cc are 1000X smarter than dumb-fucks at BTG-DEV

Sour grapes, but it puts everything in limbo

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We need MORE full nodes

WE need more time so the nodes get synchronized,

Hell even the source that comes with BTG-DEV doesn't have any seeds in the chainparamsseed.h, this is easy to GENERATE with python, the script is in /share, but the FUCK-HEADS never even properly configured, so what we have is a klusterfuck network, where nodes can't find one another, maybe this was planned by chinese so they could BAN non-chinese nodes and control the chain,

Who the fuck knows, but its VERY suspicious.

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More reports coming out about EPIC FAILURE of building the block chain, go to github.com/btcgpu and read the problems of NOOBS, nobody can figure out how to use or run the software, this means no nodes, ...

Sure ppl like myself figured out how to bootstrap the source and feed the seed-nodes weeks ago, and I think BTG.SUPRNOVA.CC did the same, and we beat the chinese bastards, now we control the chiain, and they don't,

I think their plan was to keep central control of seed-nodes, and BAN anybody they didn't like so they could control chain, and they could control consensus and keep all the blcocks in CHINESE MAFIA hands, but what happened is people took it upon themselves to correct the fucked up code and make it work,

Now BTC-GPU is pissed and wants to revoke  the 'launch' and start over, sour grapes, ..

But SUPRNOVA.CC is saying FUCK-NO, we have the longest chain, we win U LOSE CHINA

Confirmations seem to be taken more than 12 hours, after shit is found on btg.suprnova.cc

Quite long usually stuff gets confirmed in 2-4 hours

Just keep your shorts on be patient, no hurry

The trust level is VERY low, suprnova.cc doesn't want to pay out what's not there's, the ASSHOLES BTG-DEV are just pissing everyone off, with their demands to reset the block-chain, cuz the chinese didn't pull off the scam like they thought, turns out the people at suprnova.cc are 1000X smarter than dumb-fucks at BTG-DEV

Sour grapes, but it puts everything in limbo

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We need MORE full nodes

WE need more time so the nodes get synchronized,

Hell even the source that comes with BTG-DEV doesn't have any seeds in the chainparamsseed.h, this is easy to GENERATE with python, the script is in /share, but the FUCK-HEADS never even properly configured, so what we have is a klusterfuck network, where nodes can't find one another, maybe this was planned by chinese so they could BAN non-chinese nodes and control the chain,

Who the fuck knows, but its VERY suspicious.

Same way a 'fork' happens,

What the fuck is BTG?

Just clone he SW (BTC) and find enough morons to go along with you ,.... easy peezy

Uh, because ALL bitcoin clones are shit, because the people behind BCH are assholes,

Shit, there are dozen's of reasons, U have to ask, as a newbie BOT account, the shill-bots for BCH are infinite, but note this is all they have,


BCH will never be BITCOIN, might as well repackage and re-invent yourselves as BITCOIN-PLATINUM

Besides CASH is dead, calling yourself BITCOIN-CASH is like saying BITCOIN-FIAT

ONLY a fucking nihilistic GOV psychopathic moron fool would call his coin 'fiat'

 


In Aug 2017, China GOV banned SHIT-COINS and SHIT-TOKENS, so they got moved to Russia, but Demand is still in China for SHIT, but DEV & HOST is probably better  in Russia/East-EURO

Step back,

For about 100+ years Russian 's have led the world in MATH, maybe longer, for 50+ past years there was 100k kids per computer, they had nothing to do but do math and think, before they got keyboard time, thus they're better thinkers

Then there is the CHINESE they love to GAMBLE ( buying trading cryptos is just fucking gambling ),

The west say USA has NO money, the average american has NOT $500 USD in the bank, thus they are out,

The average chinese these days is rich, and wants to be RICHER,

Toss the salad above together and you get Russians producing solid code, and chinese buying the shit as quick as they can

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Also ASIA is nice cuz stuff is cheap everything is $1 USD, cpus are $3, most hw like connectors is $1, ... its just so easy in ASIA/CHINA to do hardware, in Russia its easy to do software, its natural, again I think because historically HW has always been expensive, people had to think first

USA is the most fucked, followed by western-europe, all these places are fucked.

Go to SIngapore or Hong-Kong today you will see vibrant cultures of wealth, and they're all 100% trading in crypto's for their long term investments, all 'Gold Like' in approach, keeping wealth is hard, earning is easy, keeping from GOV can almost be impossible, most ppl their biggest concern is moving their wealth in&out of GOV controlled area's, and CRYPTO is the ONLY solution. Everybody sees this

The good news is that GOV as we know may soon go the way of dinosaur, once the power of print fiat paper money becomes worthless, because nobody see's value ( greshams law ) worthless money is visible, good money cannot be found

Step back,

For about 100+ years Russian 's have led the world in MATH, maybe longer, for 50+ past years there was 100k kids per computer, they had nothing to do but do math and think, before they got keyboard time, thus they're better thinkers

Then there is the CHINESE they love to GAMBLE ( buying trading cryptos is just fucking gambling ),

The west say USA has NO money, the average american has NOT $500 USD in the bank, thus they are out,

The average chinese these days is rich, and wants to be RICHER,

Toss the salad above together and you get Russians producing solid code, and chinese buying the shit as quick as they can

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Also ASIA is nice cuz stuff is cheap everything is $1 USD, cpus are $3, most hw like connectors is $1, ... its just so easy in ASIA/CHINA to do hardware, in Russia its easy to do software, its natural, again I think because historically HW has always been expensive, people had to think first

USA is the most fucked, followed by western-europe, all these places are fucked.

Go to SIngapore or Hong-Kong today you will see vibrant cultures of wealth, and they're all 100% trading in crypto's for their long term investments, all 'Gold Like' in approach, keeping wealth is hard, earning is easy, keeping from GOV can almost be impossible, most ppl their biggest concern is moving their wealth in&out of GOV controlled area's, and CRYPTO is the ONLY solution. Everybody sees this

The good news is that GOV as we know may soon go the way of dinosaur, once the power of print fiat paper money becomes worthless, because nobody see's value ( greshams law ) worthless money is visible, good money cannot be found

It's STUPID to BUY COIN, its best to MINE it, cold-store and forget about it, Zen-Cash oscillates and the whales have been fucking it for months, if U bought it you were dumb, if you bought it on a high you were really dumb, if you can't wait, whats the point?

The deal with zen-cash is to mine it and keep it someday it will be $300 ( 10x ) from today, and maybe even higher.

Never BUY COIN, just throwing your money away, and NEVER BUY coin at a high, I know momentum trading the MORONS see something on a rise and jump in, greater-fool theory, all DAY-TRADERS are losers.

Remember the ONLY people making money in trading is the house, if you want to make money OPEN YOUR OWN Exchange, or better yet create your own shit-coin, but NEVER BUY the shit.

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The z-coins have been the best to mine for months, and will continue, until the chinese release an asic-gpu miner for equihash, they're working on it, and it will be done and then we'll have to move on to a new algo, lots of GPU clones in the works like low power USB thumb drive GPU miners with 1070 class performance, lots of people working on this shit, nothing is static long

I think BITMAIN is seriously fucked with their "BOX HEATERS" ( that sound like jet engines )  the future will be low-power consumption, high performance, my bet is on arduino class hw that high-school kids can buy for  a few bucks and mine, and create the next coins,

Let me SAY that zencash is my favorite coin to mine, I like the team, and I like the community.

BUT PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE STOP the god-damn LIE that ZEN, or any Z is private, the ONLY private is MONERO, and even that is KNOWN to be hacked by NSA.

The concept of privacy is that NOBODY can know WHO is RICH, but zen while letting u have these 'z' addresses, doesn't mean shit cuz a SMART block-chain parser ( I write them ), can & will put it all back together.

To date in COURT, in all cases of ALL crypto-currency's the FBI/CIA/NSA has been able to figure out who has what, and who bought bad-shit on dark-web and not, there is NO fucking PRIVACY, and BITCOIN is the worse

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Court cases prove only MONERO is safe, but its known in the crypto world that MONERO picked 'weak' ECDSA integers for the algo, thus we know that 2**40 type brute-force could break, if somebody reall cared ( like the NSA when they wish ), not important for civil-cases, but say if somebody bought nuclear materials with MONERO, they could&would follow the trail ( there is NO such thing as ZERO-INFORMATION ), as information is THERE by the fact that it exists

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Like most things the ONLY thing Z-Coins buy U is protection from idiots, like a lock on your door of your house, it just keeps out the idiots, the cops have master-keys to your house, as well as the lock-smith, same for CRYPTO-WORLD, most coin's ( except monero ) have public companys that reconstruct accounts for a fee for law enforcement

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Any ways zen-cash is great, Z-CASH is also great, but I think ZEN has MORE upside as its CAP is low, and price is low, but its a great team, and a great software integration, like their secure-nodes

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If I were a young KID, my advice for the GUY writing the next Zen-Coin would be to think about a COIN for CRIMINALS that can't be broken by any government on earth

Today, the best COIN is one that prevents an ex-wife from knowing your net-worth in COURT, the kid who can provide that to guys fucked by gold-digging women will become a billionaire, sorry to be politically incorrect, but if your going to invest, or be in business U MUST CONSIDER REALITY.