THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. Quit making any of yourselves look like victims. The only ones who lost out are the ones who were blind enough to buy this coin on exchanges while it was still at an artificially ridiculous price. Everyone from you to Wolong profited, even if they sold at 1 satoshi each. You got your shares for no out of pocket expense. And no, spending a few hours copy pasting code and making a shitty coin graphic in ms paint doesn't count. You've spent more time typing up replies in this thread than you actually putting in 'dev'ing' this clone. I'm going to ask a serious question here: What coding do you need to make a cryptocurrency? I mean, you're literally making currency out of thin air then miners send their GPU to mine it. Every OP is more or less the same and sometimes I feel like there's nothing to distinguish between two coins except for the fact that one is called different from the other and has a larger/smaller following. excuses
You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. I'm not buying into any BS. The WHOLE pandacoin community failed. I got greedy, I recognize that and it's my mistake. But you guys could've stopped him but instead, you just argued with each other and on the forums here. You went back on your word and edited posts so you can say one thing in the past and do something else in the present. If you want to continue developing cryptocurrency, make a new coin but kill this off. And do it right at the very beginning. Not some Pandacoin 2.0 V2. I've seen the progress that you and your team have made and I like it so far. But if you want to continue with Pandacoin, then that's a step in the wrong direction. im sorry what? what have i edited? Dude what are you talking, i havent edited ANYTHING. You have been listening to a bunch of trolls who have wanted to see this coin fail from day 1, really, form your own opinion, please. And yes u are buying in to his BS because you said in your previous post it was ,i quote 'the developers incompetence' .. where is our incompetence, please explain. The second the coin launched, wolong ceased communication, he was at the TOP of the projcet, and what was asked from a tech standpoint was done, and from a PR and marketing standpoint i took care of that side independent of wolong as he never responded to me ONCE about anything. So, basically we are now being blamed for being incompetent due to wolong ceasing contact with us, leaving us high and dry and then being forced to make difficult decisions on how to continue as a result of wolong pulling out on his involvement with the dev team. Whatever bro, give it a rest. Changing the OP isn't changing a post? Hmm.... you mean removing that bullshit that wolong wanted up there about 'gaining your trust with uno' etc etc? you mean this -> http://www.reddit.com/r/thepandacoin/comments/1xnedt/panda_coin_info/Yes, that whole section starting 'important please read' as well as the big red text that was above that in the OP starting with 'PLEASE UNDERSTAND FOR CLARITY' which i was asked my several users to remove, yes, i removed both. I haven't edited anything on those posts other than removing that text by request of the community. Whats your point? Thanks for proving my point. are you insane? the community asked me to remove it as a result of taking steps to remedy this situation, thus i removed it. your having a go at me for removing it for what reason exactly? do you even know what your doing here? lol, I pointed you to the link where you can find the original text without any part removed. And it's because of posts like this why I've stopped defending you and your team. Thats fine, but for whatever reason you feel an urge to post absolute garbage non-stop trying to piece together something you feel has been hatched behind the scenes. You have a tinfoil hat on and you cant even respond to the reason why you are even asking me in the first place if i edited something. I answered you and you think that has somehow confirmed something massively mysterious or a 'plot flaw' enlighten me. yes, i removed text that i was asked to. now what? Please explain what this accomplished? or are you jsut looking to drag this on for no reason? I dont get it TLDR: I am personally exhausted from this, there is no mystery here to be solved. Wolong fucked everyone, devs included, and used pandawest and myself as scapegoats to justify his actions. i wish i could give you more info, but i have none |
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THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. Quit making any of yourselves look like victims. The only ones who lost out are the ones who were blind enough to buy this coin on exchanges while it was still at an artificially ridiculous price. Everyone from you to Wolong profited, even if they sold at 1 satoshi each. You got your shares for no out of pocket expense. And no, spending a few hours copy pasting code and making a shitty coin graphic in ms paint doesn't count. You've spent more time typing up replies in this thread than you actually putting in 'dev'ing' this clone. I'm going to ask a serious question here: What coding do you need to make a cryptocurrency? I mean, you're literally making currency out of thin air then miners send their GPU to mine it. Every OP is more or less the same and sometimes I feel like there's nothing to distinguish between two coins except for the fact that one is called different from the other and has a larger/smaller following. excuses
You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. I'm not buying into any BS. The WHOLE pandacoin community failed. I got greedy, I recognize that and it's my mistake. But you guys could've stopped him but instead, you just argued with each other and on the forums here. You went back on your word and edited posts so you can say one thing in the past and do something else in the present. If you want to continue developing cryptocurrency, make a new coin but kill this off. And do it right at the very beginning. Not some Pandacoin 2.0 V2. I've seen the progress that you and your team have made and I like it so far. But if you want to continue with Pandacoin, then that's a step in the wrong direction. im sorry what? what have i edited? Dude what are you talking, i havent edited ANYTHING. You have been listening to a bunch of trolls who have wanted to see this coin fail from day 1, really, form your own opinion, please. And yes u are buying in to his BS because you said in your previous post it was ,i quote 'the developers incompetence' .. where is our incompetence, please explain. The second the coin launched, wolong ceased communication, he was at the TOP of the projcet, and what was asked from a tech standpoint was done, and from a PR and marketing standpoint i took care of that side independent of wolong as he never responded to me ONCE about anything. So, basically we are now being blamed for being incompetent due to wolong ceasing contact with us, leaving us high and dry and then being forced to make difficult decisions on how to continue as a result of wolong pulling out on his involvement with the dev team. Whatever bro, give it a rest. Changing the OP isn't changing a post? Hmm.... you mean removing that bullshit that wolong wanted up there about 'gaining your trust with uno' etc etc? you mean this -> http://www.reddit.com/r/thepandacoin/comments/1xnedt/panda_coin_info/Yes, that whole section starting 'important please read' as well as the big red text that was above that in the OP starting with 'PLEASE UNDERSTAND FOR CLARITY' which i was asked my several users to remove, yes, i removed both. I haven't edited anything on those posts other than removing that text by request of the community. Whats your point? Thanks for proving my point. are you insane? the community asked me to remove it as a result of taking steps to remedy this situation, thus i removed it. your having a go at me for removing it for what reason exactly? do you even know what your doing here? lol, I pointed you to the link where you can find the original text without any part removed. |
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Ok so the coin is dead to you, move along?  Wasn't it you who fucked this up for everyone by selling off the 1st? Why would anyone listen to a word you say? Your greed and lack of faith in your own coin shows. lol u wana do this dance again? let me make this very clear for you, I WAS NEVER TOLD NOT TO SELL MY COINS.. wolong himself didnt even know how many coins i even got for helping wth the project. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 4 PEOPLE (INCLUDING WOLONG) WHO WERE OBLGIATED NOT TO MOVE COINS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS) So yes thats correct.. my few million coins, which no one told me i couldn't sell and didnt say anything more than 'here you go thx for help' that were sold were responsible for crashing the market.. how did u arrive so quickly at this ? so.. lets address the other issue that prior to wolong showing that pastebin bllaming me for this whole collapse, you do remember the pastebin that showed him blaming pandawest for this whole collapse and saying that JUST A LITTLE UNDER 2HOURS PRIOR TO THE ONE ABOUT ME.. SAYING .. verbatim.. YOU ARE THE REASON I SOLD MY PANDA.. so, lets just address one last thing.. those 2 statements above dont even matter as the reality is, wolong dumped and tried to scapegoat us both in order to justify his actions of dumping on the market. Do you really think that the logical response to someone selling a few millions coins is to unload hundreds of millions? If u do, thats fine, at least I know where your logic stands. The second.. and i mean the SECOND the coin launched, wolong cut ties with the dev team and stopped communicating.. no one has shown us any proof here of wolong telling myself, evoked, mxtm, chise, and other sub-team members not to sell.. because guess what, the second he got his coins from the premine he stopped giving a shit about talking to us and dumped the market because he could, and because he could make some money and THAT, friend, is the reason why all this happened. i hope this clears up any confusion EDIT: I was also like to point out, for clarification that not only did wolong rape PANDA, but he decided that he was going to exit UNO too at that exact time and you can see, if u look at the prices during that same period that he exited uno.. so. your telling me this was all motivated bceause me or pandawest dumped a few coins? Wolong is a coin rapist. A few coins here, a few coins there, and pretty soon we're talking a billion. Aren't you continuing to victimize people by leaving the announcement post nearly unchanged from the original, knowing full well that most people don't read very far into a thread? As it's only trading at 5, why don't you wipe that post entirely, issue a full apology, and mitigate the collateral damage so newbs aren't victimized when those outstanding billions of coin get barfed onto an exchange? If you think this is a great coin, reboot it completely with zero premine and no chance of insta. And ffs, do like Star Wars and slap some Roman Numerals on the pandas so everyone can tell which ones are cynical moneygrabs. no were not talking a billion, were talking a max of 35 million which was mine and pandawest's combined holdings at the time of receiving our payment for project help. and we arent even talking about our total holdings, we are talking a max of a combined 10m that we sold. Let me ask, if we wanted to cash out so bad why didnt we sell everything when we had the chance to at high satoshi? Everyone is trying to find a way to blame us because we have been more community facing. Wolong has made maybe 5 posts here, each one as bad as the last, he is nowhere to be seen, i dont know what its going to take for you guys to get it. I agree and will be changing the OP to reflect this in the morning, its 4am. |
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THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. Quit making any of yourselves look like victims. The only ones who lost out are the ones who were blind enough to buy this coin on exchanges while it was still at an artificially ridiculous price. Everyone from you to Wolong profited, even if they sold at 1 satoshi each. You got your shares for no out of pocket expense. And no, spending a few hours copy pasting code and making a shitty coin graphic in ms paint doesn't count. You've spent more time typing up replies in this thread than you actually putting in 'dev'ing' this clone. I'm going to ask a serious question here: What coding do you need to make a cryptocurrency? I mean, you're literally making currency out of thin air then miners send their GPU to mine it. Every OP is more or less the same and sometimes I feel like there's nothing to distinguish between two coins except for the fact that one is called different from the other and has a larger/smaller following. excuses
You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. I'm not buying into any BS. The WHOLE pandacoin community failed. I got greedy, I recognize that and it's my mistake. But you guys could've stopped him but instead, you just argued with each other and on the forums here. You went back on your word and edited posts so you can say one thing in the past and do something else in the present. If you want to continue developing cryptocurrency, make a new coin but kill this off. And do it right at the very beginning. Not some Pandacoin 2.0 V2. I've seen the progress that you and your team have made and I like it so far. But if you want to continue with Pandacoin, then that's a step in the wrong direction. im sorry what? what have i edited? Dude what are you talking, i havent edited ANYTHING. You have been listening to a bunch of trolls who have wanted to see this coin fail from day 1, really, form your own opinion, please. And yes u are buying in to his BS because you said in your previous post it was ,i quote 'the developers incompetence' .. where is our incompetence, please explain. The second the coin launched, wolong ceased communication, he was at the TOP of the projcet, and what was asked from a tech standpoint was done, and from a PR and marketing standpoint i took care of that side independent of wolong as he never responded to me ONCE about anything. So, basically we are now being blamed for being incompetent due to wolong ceasing contact with us, leaving us high and dry and then being forced to make difficult decisions on how to continue as a result of wolong pulling out on his involvement with the dev team. Whatever bro, give it a rest. Changing the OP isn't changing a post? Hmm.... you mean removing that bullshit that wolong wanted up there about 'gaining your trust with uno' etc etc? you mean this -> http://www.reddit.com/r/thepandacoin/comments/1xnedt/panda_coin_info/Yes, that whole section starting 'important please read' as well as the big red text that was above that in the OP starting with 'PLEASE UNDERSTAND FOR CLARITY' which i was asked my several users to remove, yes, i removed both. I haven't edited anything on those posts other than removing that text by request of the community. Whats your point? |
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THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. Quit making any of yourselves look like victims. The only ones who lost out are the ones who were blind enough to buy this coin on exchanges while it was still at an artificially ridiculous price. Everyone from you to Wolong profited, even if they sold at 1 satoshi each. You got your shares for no out of pocket expense. And no, spending a few hours copy pasting code and making a shitty coin graphic in ms paint doesn't count. You've spent more time typing up replies in this thread than you actually putting in 'dev'ing' this clone. I'm going to ask a serious question here: What coding do you need to make a cryptocurrency? I mean, you're literally making currency out of thin air then miners send their GPU to mine it. Every OP is more or less the same and sometimes I feel like there's nothing to distinguish between two coins except for the fact that one is called different from the other and has a larger/smaller following. excuses
You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. I'm not buying into any BS. The WHOLE pandacoin community failed. I got greedy, I recognize that and it's my mistake. But you guys could've stopped him but instead, you just argued with each other and on the forums here. You went back on your word and edited posts so you can say one thing in the past and do something else in the present. If you want to continue developing cryptocurrency, make a new coin but kill this off. And do it right at the very beginning. Not some Pandacoin 2.0 V2. I've seen the progress that you and your team have made and I like it so far. But if you want to continue with Pandacoin, then that's a step in the wrong direction. im sorry what? what have i edited? Dude what are you talking, i havent edited ANYTHING. You have been listening to a bunch of trolls who have wanted to see this coin fail from day 1, really, form your own opinion, please. And yes u are buying in to his BS because you said in your previous post it was ,i quote 'the developers incompetence' .. where is our incompetence, please explain. The second the coin launched, wolong ceased communication, he was at the TOP of the projcet, and what was asked from a tech standpoint was done, and from a PR and marketing standpoint i took care of that side independent of wolong as he never responded to me ONCE about anything. So, basically we are now being blamed for being incompetent due to wolong ceasing contact with us, leaving us high and dry and then being forced to make difficult decisions on how to continue as a result of wolong pulling out on his involvement with the dev team. Whatever bro, give it a rest. Changing the OP isn't changing a post? Hmm.... I'm the wrong person to ask and I don't know. |
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THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. Quit making any of yourselves look like victims. The only ones who lost out are the ones who were blind enough to buy this coin on exchanges while it was still at an artificially ridiculous price. Everyone from you to Wolong profited, even if they sold at 1 satoshi each. You got your shares for no out of pocket expense. And no, spending a few hours copy pasting code and making a shitty coin graphic in ms paint doesn't count. You've spent more time typing up replies in this thread than you actually putting in 'dev'ing' this clone. yes, again, so correct, i love spending hours and hours of my time talking to everyone in the community about the project 24/7. Have you seen how many posts, detailed, long detailed posts i have made during the entire lifetime on this coin thus far? You dont think my time costs money? Did you or did you not mine this coin? Did you make profit? The out of pocket expense is this, its exactly this, this time and effort having to spend time picking up pieces for someone elses fuck up. |
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You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. I'm not buying into any BS. The WHOLE pandacoin community failed. I got greedy, I recognize that and it's my mistake. But you guys could've stopped him but instead, you just argued with each other and on the forums here. You went back on your word and edited posts so you can say one thing in the past and do something else in the present. If you want to continue developing cryptocurrency, make a new coin but kill this off. And do it right at the very beginning. Not some Pandacoin 2.0 V2. I've seen the progress that you and your team have made and I like it so far. But if you want to continue with Pandacoin, then that's a step in the wrong direction. im sorry what? what have i edited? Dude what are you talking, i havent edited ANYTHING. You have been listening to a bunch of trolls who have wanted to see this coin fail from day 1, really, form your own opinion, please. And yes u are buying in to his BS because you said in your previous post it was ,i quote 'the developers incompetence' .. where is our incompetence, please explain. The second the coin launched, wolong ceased communication, he was at the TOP of the projcet, and what was asked from a tech standpoint was done, and from a PR and marketing standpoint i took care of that side independent of wolong as he never responded to me ONCE about anything. So, basically we are now being blamed for being incompetent due to wolong ceasing contact with us, leaving us high and dry and then being forced to make difficult decisions on how to continue as a result of wolong pulling out on his involvement with the dev team. Whatever bro, give it a rest. |
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You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok You've made TONS of excuses. As a result of the developer's incompetence, Wolong ran off with hundreds of BTC, which is equal to tens of thousands of US dollars. Even if you relaunch, it's not going to be successful. Only reason why I want it to be successful is for personal gain. so let me get this right, your buying in to wolongs bs about it being on the devs? geezus dude take a step back and realise what has happened . Wolong ran off with 100s of BTC because that was clearly his plan all along. |
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THe funny thing is, before launch, they was talking very good about themself and how good it was organizate,
But in real they dont knew shit from eachother, and blame eachother from manipulation.
Totally agree its all plannned, you know i lost 4 btc in this, i could cash out 8 btc in profit but didnt.
Just not realize it happend already after 6 days. Its just a damn shame, because IPO Investors couldnt do shit also. Early investor got fck hard in their ass also.
Now i dont understand why 1 person hold 1,6 billion coins.?
But funny thing is that.. if he wants he can buy it all back ... he have all the time, he is already fcking multimillionaire, who cares, he can do it after 6 - 7 months if he wants..
ITs al about time..
+1 yes ur so correct, the plan all along was to launch a coin, all rape it knowing t would destroy the coin and the community surround it, put everyone off the coin, make everyone hate us, and then look for solutions to fix it. Constructive use of our time. |
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You have many excuses but tell me this. Why dump your coins? are you that hard up and in need of money so badly? did you not have faith in your own project to sell out pretty much straight away? Would like to hear your reasoning to dump rather than hold on to them. Nothing ive said is an excuse, what am i making excuses for? The coin in its current state is raped and i accept that and we are trying to resolve. i never dumped all my coins, i dont know where this came from, the only time my wallet was entirely depleted was in amongst all of this shit going off with wolong, but i transfered everything back to my wallet after. So basically i am not allowed to take some money for my efforts? Ok |
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Ok so the coin is dead to you, move along? Wasn't it you who fucked this up for everyone by selling off the 1st? Why would anyone listen to a word you say? Your greed and lack of faith in your own coin shows. lol u wana do this dance again? let me make this very clear for you, I WAS NEVER TOLD NOT TO SELL MY COINS.. wolong himself didnt even know how many coins i even got for helping wth the project. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 4 PEOPLE (INCLUDING WOLONG) WHO WERE OBLGIATED NOT TO MOVE COINS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS) So yes thats correct.. my few million coins, which no one told me i couldn't sell and didnt say anything more than 'here you go thx for help' that were sold were responsible for crashing the market.. how did u arrive so quickly at this ? so.. lets address the other issue that prior to wolong showing that pastebin bllaming me for this whole collapse, you do remember the pastebin that showed him blaming pandawest for this whole collapse and saying that JUST A LITTLE UNDER 2HOURS PRIOR TO THE ONE ABOUT ME.. SAYING .. verbatim.. YOU ARE THE REASON I SOLD MY PANDA.. so, lets just address one last thing.. those 2 statements above dont even matter as the reality is, wolong dumped and tried to scapegoat us both in order to justify his actions of dumping on the market. Do you really think that the logical response to someone selling a few millions coins is to unload hundreds of millions? If u do, thats fine, at least I know where your logic stands. The second.. and i mean the SECOND the coin launched, wolong cut ties with the dev team and stopped communicating.. no one has shown us any proof here of wolong telling myself, evoked, mxtm, chise, and other sub-team members not to sell.. because guess what, the second he got his coins from the premine he stopped giving a shit about talking to us and dumped the market because he could, and because he could make some money and THAT, friend, is the reason why all this happened. i hope this clears up any confusion EDIT: I was also like to point out, for clarification that not only did wolong rape PANDA, but he decided that he was going to exit UNO too at that exact time and you can see, if u look at the prices during that same period that he exited uno.. so. your telling me this was all motivated bceause me or pandawest dumped a few coins? Wolong is a coin rapist. |
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I don't make my own coin because there's enough bullshit out there that's 'premine scamshit' (also see: this thread).
No, R&D doesn't make it any more complex. You're glorifying things.
IF this was some epic endeavor that was actually innovative in some way (a la NXT or Darkcoin), then I'd give you guys props. This shit was nothing but a clone with a 5 minute PS panda graphic mock-up.
Valiant effort at the self pat-on-the-back, though.
Ok so the coin is dead to you, move along? |
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Just update the wallet and cut the reward to 1/10th or 1/20th starting in a couple hundred blocks and let the price stabilize.
We're working on it, we just have an ignorant group of trolls that has crawled up the dev teams butts because now their coin operation is effectively worthless since wolong holds less than 15 M PANDA and mint pal has verified it is sold off their exchange. wolongs shares are sold. Its not trolls you need to worry about, its the ignorant dev team that went to bed with wolong and killed this coin and thier reps.... do you really think any "normal" person is actually going to support this coin and any attempts to revive it? you should have forked the block chain before that prick could dump his billions. but instead you let him sell them all off and flood the market, which can also imply that the dev team also had a hand in selling off a large share amount in an attempt to make some form of profit of this failing scam coin.... if you really wanted to save this coin you should have done it the moment he was kicked from the team, not sit here and point finger's and bitching and crying over who did what. Because forking the chain would also mean the devs couldn't cash out before the crash. Simple thuganomics. dude i dont know what youve been reading but none of the devs who said they would hold have cashed out any coins. not jacob, artis (the two supposed to hold) and molly who is unfortunately caught in the crossfire here
You seem to ignore/dance around that topic all day.I can re-bump for days. I can rebump for days. keep rebumping, it is not my sole decision, thats all i can say. If i had it my way and i had the technical knowledge to do it then it would have been done and we wouldnt be having this discussion. Okay, so essentially you just play innocent and defer again. It's all 'the other devs faults.' You had zero power in all this. I get it. Thats not what im saying. Like ive said to you from day 1, and it really has been since day 1. Jacob and Artis are the lead devs. Jacob also holds 200m coins, as does artis, and molly is 50BTC in the shitter with wolong. Compiled by the fact that ARTIS is the other half of the development team and he put his blood sweat and tears in to the development side alongside with jacob, it would be absolutely fucked of us, and cause more issues, 10 fold, to do that whilst artis has no idea whats happening as hes been away, as molly is 50 btc deep with wolong and whilst jacob is in between a rock and a hard place. So, if you have a solution other than that that doesnt fuck over good people then please tell us! genuinely we are keen to hear EDIT: Artis has zero idea whats happened since launch, it would take a lot of balls for jacob to make that decision by himself and quite frankly i think its unfair to expect him to. G_d these people are insane. Copy and paste is hard these days? Shabbos, given that wolongs position as a shitbag is open now, would you like to take his place? You seem to fit all the criteria. |
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Just update the wallet and cut the reward to 1/10th or 1/20th starting in a couple hundred blocks and let the price stabilize.
We're working on it, we just have an ignorant group of trolls that has crawled up the dev teams butts because now their coin operation is effectively worthless since wolong holds less than 15 M PANDA and mint pal has verified it is sold off their exchange. wolongs shares are sold. Its not trolls you need to worry about, its the ignorant dev team that went to bed with wolong and killed this coin and thier reps.... do you really think any "normal" person is actually going to support this coin and any attempts to revive it? you should have forked the block chain before that prick could dump his billions. but instead you let him sell them all off and flood the market, which can also imply that the dev team also had a hand in selling off a large share amount in an attempt to make some form of profit of this failing scam coin.... if you really wanted to save this coin you should have done it the moment he was kicked from the team, not sit here and point finger's and bitching and crying over who did what. Because forking the chain would also mean the devs couldn't cash out before the crash. Simple thuganomics. dude i dont know what youve been reading but none of the devs who said they would hold have cashed out any coins. not jacob, artis (the two supposed to hold) and molly who is unfortunately caught in the crossfire here
You seem to ignore/dance around that topic all day.I can re-bump for days. I can rebump for days. keep rebumping, it is not my sole decision, thats all i can say. If i had it my way and i had the technical knowledge to do it then it would have been done and we wouldnt be having this discussion. Okay, so essentially you just play innocent and defer again. It's all 'the other devs faults.' You had zero power in all this. I get it. Thats not what im saying. Like ive said to you from day 1, and it really has been since day 1. Jacob and Artis are the lead devs. Jacob also holds 200m coins, as does artis, and molly is 50BTC in the shitter with wolong. Compiled by the fact that ARTIS is the other half of the development team and he put his blood sweat and tears in to the development side alongside with jacob, it would be absolutely fucked of us, and cause more issues, 10 fold, to do that whilst artis has no idea whats happening as hes been away, as molly is 50 btc deep with wolong and whilst jacob is in between a rock and a hard place. So, if you have a solution other than that that doesnt fuck over good people then please tell us! genuinely we are keen to hear EDIT: Artis has zero idea whats happened since launch, it would take a lot of balls for jacob to make that decision by himself and quite frankly i think its unfair to expect him to. You're in some way implying this piece of shit actually took 'time' to create. Jesus. It was an exact copy pasta of Vert's code. Hell, you even used their damn miner. PND was tossed together in less than a weekend by a single dev while she was most likely taking breaks lolling@your impending failure. Quit acting like this was such a painstaking endeavor of blood sweat and tears. Oh, and Molly deserves what she got. She's a shitbag just like Wolong. Wouldn't be surprised if they're secretly married so wolong can get his Visa. isnt molly a bloke? that would be strange but they would defo have ugly kids. And yes, it was. I dont see your coin anywhere on the forums and whilst i dont know what technical knowledge is needed to dot hat side of it, i do know that a lot of time was spent doing everything in advance on the launch and making sure everything was working, tested and correct. Feel free to launch flipstyle coin, i will defo mine it. |
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Just update the wallet and cut the reward to 1/10th or 1/20th starting in a couple hundred blocks and let the price stabilize.
We're working on it, we just have an ignorant group of trolls that has crawled up the dev teams butts because now their coin operation is effectively worthless since wolong holds less than 15 M PANDA and mint pal has verified it is sold off their exchange. wolongs shares are sold. Its not trolls you need to worry about, its the ignorant dev team that went to bed with wolong and killed this coin and thier reps.... do you really think any "normal" person is actually going to support this coin and any attempts to revive it? you should have forked the block chain before that prick could dump his billions. but instead you let him sell them all off and flood the market, which can also imply that the dev team also had a hand in selling off a large share amount in an attempt to make some form of profit of this failing scam coin.... if you really wanted to save this coin you should have done it the moment he was kicked from the team, not sit here and point finger's and bitching and crying over who did what. Because forking the chain would also mean the devs couldn't cash out before the crash. Simple thuganomics. dude i dont know what youve been reading but none of the devs who said they would hold have cashed out any coins. not jacob, artis (the two supposed to hold) and molly who is unfortunately caught in the crossfire here
You seem to ignore/dance around that topic all day.I can re-bump for days. I can rebump for days. keep rebumping, it is not my sole decision, thats all i can say. If i had it my way and i had the technical knowledge to do it then it would have been done and we wouldnt be having this discussion. Okay, so essentially you just play innocent and defer again. It's all 'the other devs faults.' You had zero power in all this. I get it. Thats not what im saying. Like ive said to you from day 1, and it really has been since day 1. Jacob and Artis are the lead devs. Jacob also holds 200m coins, as does artis, and molly is 50BTC in the shitter with wolong. Compiled by the fact that ARTIS is the other half of the development team and he put his blood sweat and tears in to the development side alongside with jacob, it would be absolutely fucked of us, and cause more issues, 10 fold, to do that whilst artis has no idea whats happening as hes been away, as molly is 50 btc deep with wolong and whilst jacob is in between a rock and a hard place. So, if you have a solution other than that that doesnt fuck over good people then please tell us! genuinely we are keen to hear EDIT: Artis has zero idea whats happened since launch, it would take a lot of balls for jacob to make that decision by himself and quite frankly i think its unfair to expect him to. |
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Just update the wallet and cut the reward to 1/10th or 1/20th starting in a couple hundred blocks and let the price stabilize.
We're working on it, we just have an ignorant group of trolls that has crawled up the dev teams butts because now their coin operation is effectively worthless since wolong holds less than 15 M PANDA and mint pal has verified it is sold off their exchange. wolongs shares are sold. Its not trolls you need to worry about, its the ignorant dev team that went to bed with wolong and killed this coin and thier reps.... do you really think any "normal" person is actually going to support this coin and any attempts to revive it? you should have forked the block chain before that prick could dump his billions. but instead you let him sell them all off and flood the market, which can also imply that the dev team also had a hand in selling off a large share amount in an attempt to make some form of profit of this failing scam coin.... if you really wanted to save this coin you should have done it the moment he was kicked from the team, not sit here and point finger's and bitching and crying over who did what. Because forking the chain would also mean the devs couldn't cash out before the crash. Simple thuganomics. dude i dont know what youve been reading but none of the devs who said they would hold have cashed out any coins. not jacob, artis (the two supposed to hold) and molly who is unfortunately caught in the crossfire here
You seem to ignore/dance around that topic all day.I can re-bump for days. I can rebump for days. keep rebumping, it is not my sole decision, thats all i can say. If i had it my way and i had the technical knowledge to do it then it would have been done and we wouldnt be having this discussion. |
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PS: Common sense will tell you wolong sold nowhere NEAR his remaining 2 billion shares on mintpal after the debacle was exposed. I monitored the buy/sell walls closely. The shit kept dumping more than 10 satoshis a day, and there were approximately 10 sells for every 1 buy order. And the buy orders were all artificial bot for less than 0.001 btc in order to try and get people to bite.
lol@implying 2 billion shares were sold during that shit fest.
i said 1billion, and this was confirmed from MINTPALS OWNER directly |
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Unless he's stupid enough to reveal his wallet address; then you guys could hardcode the pandacoin net to not accept transactions from his address (lol).
this is exactly what we wanted to do, and we were unable to due to his coins all being dumped. this is what we have spent the last few hours trying to do we were going to blacklist all his coins and make them invalid. |
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^ Lol.
I think it's abundantly clear nobody gives a shit about buying into this scamfest outside of the actual devs and bagholders themselves, as is evident from the replies.
Amazing how sev all the sudden rears his head after a long hiatus just to reinforce the lie that 'all wolongs shares are sold.'
Read IRC. Use common sense.
Sev has been in on the scam since day 1. Why don't you fucktards just enjoy the money you made off the scam and let this shit die instead of conning more of wolong's fellow chinamen who don't speak a lick of engrish?
right, and what exactly have i done? Why am i still posting to irc and the forums? havent i got what i wanted if i was in on this scam? why dont YOU Apply some logic and recognize the fact that after the amount of insanity here, replying to every single troll gets a bit much.. i am very aware of what you are all hoping for..for the team to turn around and say 'yes we were in on some master plan to make a quick buck and piss off to the bahamas' <-- evidently not the case. We are trying to do damage control and make some form of inroads in to getting the situation sorted. If you dont want to help, or contribute anything mildly intelligent then you know where the door is. |
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Just update the wallet and cut the reward to 1/10th or 1/20th starting in a couple hundred blocks and let the price stabilize.
We're working on it, we just have an ignorant group of trolls that has crawled up the dev teams butts because now their coin operation is effectively worthless since wolong holds less than 15 M PANDA and mint pal has verified it is sold off their exchange. wolongs shares are sold. >>implying wolong's 2+ billion shares are already sold Priceress. can verify this is the case. He dumped 1billion in last day on mintpal. Please, like that weasel doesn't have a wallet you guys will never know about full of this garbage that he's been buying at basement prices in anticipation of pumping this shit again now that you guys can pretend he exited. 'pretend he exited' well u know more than us then if thats your response.. so feel free to tell us what you know. A friend of mine is in his circlejerk (and wants to kill him) but provided logs to us that he dumped out everything. We also verified this with the exchange as a matter of knowing that he is long fucking gone. Your right about one thing, and tha tis that we cannot stop him from buying in the future, its impossible, literally. |
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