I have been talking back and forth with their skype person which I think is the only person in the company as I first called their phone number and she answer the phone in the middle of the night in UK and talked to me with a very sleepy voice.
Anyways, she gave me the information about the technical specs and what the agreement conditions will be etc. (I can provide more info about that if needed)
But then I asked for a copy of the agreement to be sent on skype and she skipped that part couple times and then I asked for the official company name, company address and more information about the company but she just didnt simply give it to me as I didnt give me personal information first. Anyways below is the last part of the chat.
I`m not saying they are scammers but they are trying to hide their company information and provide a very unprofessional service. Oh not to mention they want minimum $1000 upfront. Before doing anything.
[12:14:09 PM] Ray: - If you operate the wallet you can always send money from there since you have access to the hot wallets and even cold wallets. So again, who will be responsible in case of red alert cause by the system or software?
- Please send me the agreement through here.
- I dont see any full address in your site or your doc. Can you give me your official company name and your full address?
- Is your business recorded in UK laws as IT support? please provide as much information as you can about the company
- Please give me some examples of your current customers.
[12:15:49 PM] Olga Shtern: Before that I also need information about your company and team to provide you with the current information
[12:17:43 PM] Olga Shtern: Do you have any site/web page?
[12:17:50 PM] Ray: I`m not a company, I am an individual who hires programmers to get online projects done. I`m also the founder of the biggest BTC facebook group in Turkey.
[12:18:32 PM] Olga Shtern: We work only with legal bodies
[12:18:53 PM] Ray: So can I get your company information?
[12:20:16 PM] Olga Shtern: If you don't represent any company I am not sure that this business can work
[12:21:06 PM] Ray: I dont think we should be talking about if I`ll give me business or not or what is my personal information to get your company information. I feel like you`re trying to be secretive about your company information.
[12:21:36 PM] Ray: Why would you ask for a the other party information to provide your company information when you have a site advertising a service?
[12:24:08 PM] Olga Shtern: We have to know who are we going to build a business with. Would you buy a car not trying that before? The same here - you want to know, who we are, the same interest we have, if there is a sense to work with the perspective customer
[12:25:13 PM] Ray: So let me be be clear, you are not going to give me any of your company information unless I give me personal information?
You`re not even gonna give me your company address because I dont give you my personal info?
[12:28:55 PM | Removed 12:37:42 PM] Olga Shtern: This message has been removed. Yes before I copy this part she removed it 
She was basically refusing to give any company information before I give my personal information[12:29:09 PM] Olga Shtern: In this case i suggest to sign up NDA
[12:29:29 PM] Ray: Ok, this is ridiculous. I wont continue anymore.
[12:29:32 PM] Ray: I think I should just post the last part of this chat on bitcointalk.org maybe to other websites and BTC news agencies also. Like coindesk etc.
[12:32:35 PM] Olga Shtern: It's up to you, Ray. We know our clients and support them, and the main purpose is to be clear. If you don't trust us, why we have to trust you- the person who even don't povide any info
[12:33:22 PM] Olga Shtern: I wish you good luck
[12:34:57 PM] Ray: As a company who advertises online services you have to provide company info when anyone asks. If you dont, people wont trust you. You`re the one who is selling things of course you have to provide trustworthy look. Do I really have to teach you how a trustworthy business model work?
[12:37:48 PM | Edited 12:38:28 PM] Olga Shtern: Sorry, Ray, in this case I would advice to build your own business and apply that model you think is the best for you
I`m just saying be careful with these people. I didn`t really like how sketch they acted.PS: Sorry if I openned the topic in a wrong category, I actually couldnt find the right category to put that in.
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