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The sooner that D9 burns the remaining ~5 million premine coins that represent 6% of the current total supply, the sooner the CANN community can put this behind them and move forward.
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Both communities are screwing each other, congrats. When we stop acting like children rooting for their favorite baseball team, maybe we'll start attracting additional investment. I own stakes in both coins, I'm embarrassed by the behavior of both communities. I know, 'you're a fuder', 'screw you', etc.. etc.. I understand there's legitimate concerns from both communities, copy/pasting charts over and over again doesn't help anyone.
You're essentially scaring off the investors and only securing the hardcore follower. You'll do what you want, it's just a shame. If I was one of the developers of the newer coins that are now slapping us all around in market cap, I'd have a good laugh. The more fighting, the more profit their communities will realize. Complaints are fine, accusations are fine, acting like kids is not profitable. I'm not looking for friends, I'm not screaming $5 coins, I'm here for investment.
I understand these communities are driven by very smart individuals, most probably still in their early 20s as a whole. It's expected but a damn shame we're destroying ourselves. I love what Cannapay is doing in the development side of the house, I love how CannabisCoin is at least hosting events. Please think about the moderate investors, people with actual money that both communities are scaring away. I said my peace, I'm sure bold letters and endless graphics will still commence. Shitcoin this, fudder that. Is this the image we want to draw in investors? Not pump and dumpers, but actual investors.
Some communities never learn. The ones that do, well, they remain in the top 10, top 15.
We entirely agree with you on everything. This was very important to investigate the CANN premine for the crypto community. As people can see, the blockchain provides transparency for a coin. Unfortunately, Delta9 had a lot of dirty laundry that needed to be cleaned up. It was not personal. It was simply time to shout louder than the people who yell "FUD" and show them the truth about their blockchain. We regret that we had to be the ones to bring it to light - however - it was the right thing to do. None of this affects Cannapay or Cannacoin. The future of our platforms and CCN is huge. Our vision is massive. We have so many great developments coming up for people to experience. We hope to repair our relationship with D9 in the future if he does indeed decide to burn the remaining premined coins from CANN. It's very important for us to provide transparency for our coin and projects and it should be obvious to everyone here that we mean business. Cheers, Patrick |
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personally, I'd like to see any coins in question(if they exist) burned with proof of burn provided. A reduction in total coin amounts never hurts anybody.
The sooner D9 destroys the remaining outstanding premine, the sooner CANN value will rise. |
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I'm not in cannabis coin, but it looks cheap right now. This thread looks like fud, so I have a couple of questions.
1. Was the X11 premine the same size as the Scrypt money supply at "snapshot" date? If not, what was the difference?
2. Have any "unclaimed" coins been moved since the X11 premine?
Thank you for your answers.
Premine went from 2% to ~18%+ to ~6% What do you mean? Was there a 1:1 X11:Scrypt ratio or not? No. Delta9 still has ~6.6 million coins, which equated to ~5% of the x11 network. Now that the total supply is reduced due to burning the 14 million coins, the actual amount of the premine that still exists is around 6% The sooner D9 burns those coins, the sooner CANN will rise in price. |
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I'm not in cannabis coin, but it looks cheap right now. This thread looks like fud, so I have a couple of questions.
1. Was the X11 premine the same size as the Scrypt money supply at "snapshot" date? If not, what was the difference?
2. Have any "unclaimed" coins been moved since the X11 premine?
Thank you for your answers.
Premine went from 2% to ~18%+ to ~6% |
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Let's assume that this is his wallet . How else is he supposed to get paid for all of this hard work he is doing and the total capital outlay he has made ? Would you want to start a business with ZERO equity in it ? Even with that being said , he has still not sold a coin. That speaks volumes .
 As you can see from the image above, 1,465,379 are sitting in bittrex right now... I wouldn't go as far to say none of them have been sold....there is very good chances considering they're sitting on an exchange... So Delta9, will you confirm that you own these coins, or will we? Will you destroy them? Otherwise you turned a 2% premine into a ~18% premine into a ~6% premine. Well done man, you've got a lot of bagholders on this thread now. |
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Man this is getting rediculous. Almost every coin out there has one hidden pre-mine or another.
We should just give up and focus on Litecoin or just Bitcoin itself.
Nothing but BTC wasted
He should just burn all the premine coins. Burn and learn. |
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Dev has more coins then the original 14million claimed! Add another 6.6+ Million!
Here is the block chain analysis of the pre-mined data of this coin. If anyone can provide scrypt blockchain and ill will then furthur give you 100% confirmation of all transactions made on the blockchain. As you can see, there are 1,465,379 CANN coins directly linked to bittrex from the Dev teams pre-mine not paid out to miners. Secondly you will see 5,202,379 Not yet redeemed just as you saw linked to the 29 burn addresses .  secondly, you can see there was activity on the following 5 million moved from pre-mine can CANN wallet 28 minutes after the burn that occurred between 1AM - 2:16AM PST on OCT 22nd. This looks as is someone is hiding something...   Can anyone provide the old blockchain data so we can verify the integrity of the ledger? If anyone has an old scrypt wallet and has the blockchain downloaded up until the switch to x11, please get in touch. With the old blockchain data we can link everything together. |
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I wasn't going to chime in on this, but... People need to get over themselves. The crypto 'verse is big enough for all coins to coexist without shitting on one another. That being said, the 25 x 500k transactions that are all EXACTLY 500k and all EXACTLY the same age is fishy. The only actual FACT in this whole fiasco is that those coins exist (or existed since they appear to have been destroyed). Everything else is speculation. Was it a hidden premine? I honestly don't know. CANN devs were saying that they had no knowledge of the coins and didn't know who they belonged to. Okay...maybe that's true. So please, CANN devs, answer me this: - How do you not notice 25 identical transactions on the blockchain that all occurred at the same time?
- If these were not your coins, how were you able to find the private keys and access the addresses to be
able to destroy the coins?
I am not a coindev, so for all I know, maybe there is a rational explanation. If so, I would like to know. For those of you whargarrrbling about CCN having hired a PR firm to FUD CANN - the only person who claims to have actual FIRST HAND knowledge (not "I heard that..." or "so and so told me...") of this is a sockpuppet account created TODAY with 2 posts to its name. Adding the moniker _Snowden to your nick? That just smacks of trying too hard to troll. No coin needs to shit on another to succeed. It makes crypto as a whole look bad when that happens. Who the hell is going to want to invest something that, at the moment, resembles nothing so much as a bunch of angry monkeys flinging poo at one another? Oh yeah, one more thing - using big ass fonts doesn't give you any more credibility than normal size fonts. It just irritates more people. Just sayin'... There's still ~6 million coins from the pre-mine that are not accounted for. This will leave a stain on #cann forever until DeltaNine can provide the old blockchain and accounting for those ~6 million. WTF you talking about, ALL Premine is burned. We have located ~5 million outstanding coins from the original premine that is sitting in DeltaNine's wallet: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?134355.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CX5MLYvxkhbKGHfGHex6rJ2Y84QbtBVjRS.htm
Nice try again from Cannacoin [CCN]
You located, lol is this a joke?
You say the number 5 on the rich list is a premine?
You pick random ranks on the rich list and say this is a premine?
Are you trolling or so stupid?
This are the coins of 0feepool! You moron!
btw. all premine coins was burnedSo you are saying that 0feepool received ~5 million coins from the premine and never distributed them? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?134355.htm |
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We will provide a detailed accounting for where these coins came from and where they were sent to. DeltaNine, where do I send the accounting bill to? Do that, I just did my own research and found where the coins you said you found came from. It was 0feepool. So he gave 5 million coins to 0pool to be distributed? Those coins are still sitting there and they are from the pre-mine, they weren't distributed. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?134355.htm |
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they obviously do not know how to track transactions via the blockchain that was laughable.
So he gave 5 million coins to 0pool to be distributed? Those coins are still sitting there and they are from the pre-mine, they weren't distributed. |
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Nice try again from Cannacoin [CCN] You located, lol is this a joke? You say the number 5 on the rich list is a premine? You pick random ranks on the rich list and say this is a premine? Are you trolling or so stupid? This are the coins of 0feepool! You moron!btw. all premine coins was burne So he gave 5 million coins to 0pool to be distributed? Those coins are still sitting there and they are from the pre-mine, they weren't distributed. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?134355.htm |
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lol CCN here to stir up more drama. We are investigating the remaining coins from the 21.8 million premine. We will have a detailed accounting for the locations of these coins and where they were sent. It appears only about ~ 1 million coins from the pre-mine were sent to miners, the remaining ~5 million are sitting in one wallet. |
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We will provide a detailed accounting for where these coins came from and where they were sent to. DeltaNine, where do I send the accounting bill to? |
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I wasn't going to chime in on this, but... People need to get over themselves. The crypto 'verse is big enough for all coins to coexist without shitting on one another. That being said, the 25 x 500k transactions that are all EXACTLY 500k and all EXACTLY the same age is fishy. The only actual FACT in this whole fiasco is that those coins exist (or existed since they appear to have been destroyed). Everything else is speculation. Was it a hidden premine? I honestly don't know. CANN devs were saying that they had no knowledge of the coins and didn't know who they belonged to. Okay...maybe that's true. So please, CANN devs, answer me this: - How do you not notice 25 identical transactions on the blockchain that all occurred at the same time?
- If these were not your coins, how were you able to find the private keys and access the addresses to be
able to destroy the coins?
I am not a coindev, so for all I know, maybe there is a rational explanation. If so, I would like to know. For those of you whargarrrbling about CCN having hired a PR firm to FUD CANN - the only person who claims to have actual FIRST HAND knowledge (not "I heard that..." or "so and so told me...") of this is a sockpuppet account created TODAY with 2 posts to its name. Adding the moniker _Snowden to your nick? That just smacks of trying too hard to troll. No coin needs to shit on another to succeed. It makes crypto as a whole look bad when that happens. Who the hell is going to want to invest something that, at the moment, resembles nothing so much as a bunch of angry monkeys flinging poo at one another? Oh yeah, one more thing - using big ass fonts doesn't give you any more credibility than normal size fonts. It just irritates more people. Just sayin'... There's still ~6 million coins from the pre-mine that are not accounted for. This will leave a stain on #cann forever until DeltaNine can provide the old blockchain and accounting for those ~6 million. WTF you talking about, ALL Premine is burned. We have located ~5 million outstanding coins from the original premine that is sitting in DeltaNine's wallet: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?134355.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CX5MLYvxkhbKGHfGHex6rJ2Y84QbtBVjRS.htm |
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I wasn't going to chime in on this, but... People need to get over themselves. The crypto 'verse is big enough for all coins to coexist without shitting on one another. That being said, the 25 x 500k transactions that are all EXACTLY 500k and all EXACTLY the same age is fishy. The only actual FACT in this whole fiasco is that those coins exist (or existed since they appear to have been destroyed). Everything else is speculation. Was it a hidden premine? I honestly don't know. CANN devs were saying that they had no knowledge of the coins and didn't know who they belonged to. Okay...maybe that's true. So please, CANN devs, answer me this: - How do you not notice 25 identical transactions on the blockchain that all occurred at the same time?
- If these were not your coins, how were you able to find the private keys and access the addresses to be
able to destroy the coins?
I am not a coindev, so for all I know, maybe there is a rational explanation. If so, I would like to know. For those of you whargarrrbling about CCN having hired a PR firm to FUD CANN - the only person who claims to have actual FIRST HAND knowledge (not "I heard that..." or "so and so told me...") of this is a sockpuppet account created TODAY with 2 posts to its name. Adding the moniker _Snowden to your nick? That just smacks of trying too hard to troll. No coin needs to shit on another to succeed. It makes crypto as a whole look bad when that happens. Who the hell is going to want to invest something that, at the moment, resembles nothing so much as a bunch of angry monkeys flinging poo at one another? Oh yeah, one more thing - using big ass fonts doesn't give you any more credibility than normal size fonts. It just irritates more people. Just sayin'... There's still ~6 million coins from the pre-mine that are not accounted for. This will leave a stain on #cann forever until DeltaNine can provide the old blockchain and accounting for those ~6 million. |
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Premine will be no more in a while, turns out the dev is not a dirty little scammer 12.5 million less coins will be in circulation - which makes 1 CANN is more rare and therefore should mean more valuable I'd say now would be a good time to put some buy orders up  Edit: heh, now the CANN market is looking pretty bullish, hopefully we will see a nice steady increase to Cannabiscoin's true value There's still the remaining 7.3 million CANN that are not accounted for publicly. So far I've come across three original miners that redeemed large wallets (300-400k). Without some type of transparency to the distribution process that was used and the old blockchain, it won't be easy to track down those coins. 7.3 million coins distributed with no oversight and virtually no public accounting. This means Delta9 could be sitting on 5-6 million coins from the pre-mine. Uhh, what 7.3 million CANN has not been accounted for? Last I heard the supposed premine was 12.5mil which has all been accounted for. Delta9 is most likely not sitting on 5-6 million from the premine. The premine was 21.8 million CANN. Source? It's laid right there in front of you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.msg9281789#msg9281789- 25+ addresses contain 500k coins EACH directly linked to the pre-mined address and still sit untouched over 130 days, creation date aprox June 12, 2014..
- All 25 wallet address were payed in single payments (500k coins) in short succession, block after block as a pre-pared and planned payment. This does not indicate a number of coins rewarded to miners as the redistribution program was intended for. 25 * 500,000 = 12,500,000 The rest of the 21.8 million premine was used to pay early scrypt miners, which is why it wasn't found in the block chain So yeah, no more premine buddy I also find it interesting how hostile you are towards this coin. Lots of baseless accusations in an attempt to harm CANN, its quite sad really. Where are the baseless accusations you speak of? |
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Premine will be no more in a while, turns out the dev is not a dirty little scammer 12.5 million less coins will be in circulation - which makes 1 CANN is more rare and therefore should mean more valuable I'd say now would be a good time to put some buy orders up Edit: heh, now the CANN market is looking pretty bullish, hopefully we will see a nice steady increase to Cannabiscoin's true value There's still the remaining 7.3 million CANN that are not accounted for publicly. So far I've come across three original miners that redeemed large wallets (300-400k). Without some type of transparency to the distribution process that was used and the old blockchain, it won't be easy to track down those coins. 7.3 million coins distributed with no oversight and virtually no public accounting. This means Delta9 could be sitting on 5-6 million coins from the pre-mine. Uhh, what 7.3 million CANN has not been accounted for? Last I heard the supposed premine was 12.5mil which has all been accounted for. Delta9 is most likely not sitting on 5-6 million from the premine. The premine was 21.8 million CANN. Source? It's laid right there in front of you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.msg9281789#msg9281789 |
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