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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 03, 2015, 05:46:29 AM


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Potato not allowed  Wink
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 11:26:32 PM
idea: is it possible to enable merge mining with let's say only NMC and DVC but not with btc?

So to say give people the option to choose between uno or bitcoin to mine with their NMC and/or DVC?
...but not allow for merge mining uno with btc directly?

Is this an option?
Possible to do?
Possible Sideeeffects? Will it hurt decentralisation?
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 11:20:58 PM


Yes, agreed. I was just saying... if Uno did AuxPos with Btc, there wouldn't seem to be any benefit to ZET doing AuxPos with Uno. They would be better to merge mine with someone else, or also do it with Btc.


so we either stick with altcoin-hash exclusively (which can turn out to be a good thing too) or need some kind of innovation in this field to avoid the negative effects, right?
Innovative solution would be to keep uno attractive to large solominers, merging with other alts aswell as finding a way to get some of btc-hash, right?
I think the perfect solution we look for is likely a very innovative one.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 10:57:51 PM
let's not do a thing that threatens the decentralisation.
More hash is good but not at the cost of a decentralised network.
Decentralisation is a thing we'll likely not want to sacrifice for more hash, right?  

Do we want to compete with the other btc-mergers like NMC, DVC?
I don't  think so necessarily - that niche is already pretty crowded probably.
I don't know what's technically possible to maybe tap into that hash on the periphery.

I think there could be unexplored possibilities. Needs some more tech-expert opionion too. Maybe right there some innovations are possible? I don't know ...
How to tap into bitcoin-hash without negative sideeffects?
Does it make more sense for Uno to stick with altcoin-hash exclusively? Maybe it does, maybe not. Need those crypto-wizards for smart solutions Wink  

"The answer to Gustav's question about whether other coins could implement AuthPow against Uno anyway, appears to be yes. They could, but why would they?"

they maybe would to secure their own network? Do i mix up things here?

I mean: ZET isn't  merged with anything right now, or is it? They would want to get more security anyway. I think essentially every longterm coin out there is likely concerned with network security right now, am i rite? So joining forces makes sense for many coins, doesn't it?

My knowledge is limited too.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 10:10:22 PM
can we implement Auxpow in a way that allows for mining with BTC aswell as for mining with ZET, Xjo and others? Or is it a choice for either - or?

Giving miners/pools maximum freedom to choose what to mine with their uno maybe no bad idea?
Can we open up for scrypt hashpower aswell?

I think in case we get started we should take in all hash that's possible for us, shouldn't we?

Since it requires an update: let's have it done properly and be done with it after one update  Wink


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BIG isn't good. There is no hash on the coin so what would you get from it? We should only discuss coins that can stand on their own as dead coins will not draw in more hash for us ... you'd achieve no more hash for uno just more  hash for the dead coin - doesn't make a great deal of sense ...
launching new coin could be done but i think we should try to reach out to already exisitng and running coins first as they have something to contribute - new coins have a hard time these days. Let's not spam out more coins if we don't have to.


*like the discussion. Could be coming good things from it ...
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 03:35:32 PM
sure, i can top up 10 coins for the dev.

Right now hashrate is bad on almost all coins. In case bitcoin declines more it'll become a thing of survival for many coins. We'll see much more merging then. It's certainly good to be ahead of the curve.
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 01:06:04 PM
sounds good.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 01:03:28 PM


This is the big question.  Requires the PROs to speak.  

If UNO can be the leader in sha256 Auxpow (same Via 2 Scrypty)
then that'd  be pretty damn awesome.

Still keen on having a side chain eat any of the bloat if this is possible.
again why BIG would be fun (cuz we give it all the bloat) Tongue

BIG would also be the right ticker for a bloated chain  Cheesy

Yes, need some crypto-magicians on this - uno can be a leading altcoin, no doubt.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vapecoin Scam WTF on: January 02, 2015, 12:55:19 PM
next time just buy some uno - no bad surprises there. Nobody lost his shirts holding Uno ever (except maybe during the big pump last spring).

New coins is always risky. Join an established coin to be more safe Wink

It's good to get in right now. Uno has a bright future.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 12:51:01 PM
The block times doesn't matter for merge mining.

A coin with a 10 minute block time can merge mine with a coin with a 1 minute block time.


so zet can merge and doesn't need change? This would be great news for both coins, wouldn't it?

Yes, the parameters doesn't need to change, but one of the coins must implement AuxPow.

If a coin has AuxPow it can merge mine with other coins that doesn't have AuxPow.


the one with Auxpow will get a large blockchain, correct?

Is there an estimate how big the bloat would potentially be?

431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 12:34:19 PM
The block times doesn't matter for merge mining.

A coin with a 10 minute block time can merge mine with a coin with a 1 minute block time.


so zet can merge and doesn't need change? This would be great news for both coins, wouldn't it?
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 02, 2015, 08:10:09 AM
let's have only the best with uno. Did bittrex kill duo? Can we have a relaunch or revival?

and if we can get it back let's explicitly tell trex they won't be allowed to list it.  Lips sealed

A new coin needs an exchange that  keeps the market up even with small volume. Markets need to mature over time. Pump and dumps aren't interesting. Real markets need some time to grow.
Delisting like trex is BS - killed DUO, which was a good coin. Let's revive with bleutrade, cryptsy and so on and merge that maybe? We need a fair coin with uno - no premine, no bad surprises.

Look at aurum-coin for example. Such a nice brand - Big is nice brand too - but wasted to greed!!!
Finding shitcoins with nice logo is no problem but we should offer Uno-miners no shitcoin!

Lets get back to DUO - it can be easily traded at 10% - 20% of UNO price - in fact we can peg UNO to DUO with good trading - 5 to 10 DUO for 1 UNO ?

Or just buy more UNO and raise price and hash rises with it  Wink

Let's bring on DUO for real. What's Blazr2 saying about it?
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could fiat-pegged altcoins replace Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2015, 07:19:22 AM
unobtanium beats all those coins mentioned here any day

#just sayin'
434  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: AUFGABEN und ZIELE der Deutschen eMark! on: January 01, 2015, 11:38:54 PM
angesichts der vielen Negativität von Seitens der Leute die wahrscheinlich nichtmal coins halten würde ich dem DEM-team raten sich lediglich von Leuten beraten zu lassen, die auch DEM halten. Könnte ja sonst jeder kommen ...
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 01, 2015, 11:31:13 PM
paralellcoin was Blazr-style fair launch and nothing wrong with it.

Only 'problems' were: did not attract pump and dumpers or hype because came without much bells and whistles, no roadmap and not much glitter. So it wasn't pumped and dumped and trex delisted it. So fuckin' what?
I'd strongly recommend to get it back on smaller exchange and raise it from there. And note for the future: if you have a serious longterm coin do not list at bittrex only.
I hope that chain is still alive.

Other coins just have too much problems attached to them to make any use of them. If you want a clean coin go to uncle Blazr2 - you don't get fair coins in other places. Period.  Wink
436  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: AUFGABEN und ZIELE der Deutschen eMark! on: January 01, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
klingt gut.

Was die meisten nicht begreifen:

Geld muss sicher sein. Features sind Nebensache! (entgegen dem was hier sonst so gepredigt wird)

Beim coin kommt's drauf an, dass das Netzwerk 100% uptime hat, gute hashrate hat und trotzdem geringe Inflation.
Die ganzen unnötigen features kannste in den Wind furzen weil das nichts wert ist. Auf was es ankommt ist Benutzerfreundlichkeit, relative Sicherheit, Verlässlichkeit und Nachhaltigkeit!  

Ein relaunch würde aus diesem grund nicht fliegen (warum auch?)


Die Emark is gut soweit. Mein wallet staked nicht so recht also mit nem update wär's dann auch schon getan (wenn der noch nicht draussen ist und ich das verpasst hab). [edit: stake geht jetzt - bin also jetzt voll zufrieden mit der DEM]

Was ich nicht ausstehen kann sind nein-sager und negative Leute die nur immer quängeln können. Ich mag die Emark - keine ahnung was es zu mäckern gibt. Wem's nicht passt der kann ja nen eigenen coin launchen oder nen anderen Coin nutzen.

Features sind spielerei und überhaupt nichts wert, wenn sie zu lasten der Sicherheit gehen.
Wichtiger als Features ist tech-support für Neulinge und gute Tutorials sowie Liquidiät durch einfache Konvertierbarkeit!
Also ich denke einen Fiat-exchange für Euro direkt zur DEM sowie Tech-suppport für neulinge wird definitiv einiges mehr Sinn machen als irgendwelche unnötigen features.

Die meisten Leute hier im Forum sind echt auf den Kopf gefallen...  
437  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Unobtanium (Uno/Un) - deutscher Community-thread on: January 01, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
is der Boden drin?
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: January 01, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
potato-trader lmao!

Big isn't that good.

Why was parallel coin not good? Because trex delisted it? Are you serious? Get parallel coin back on another exchange. Trex  is only good for a week - they don't help new coins to come up. They always delist markets before mature. All they have is pump and dumps.

german thread will be bumped so noobs with no english skills will know where to go Wink
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: December 31, 2014, 09:57:46 AM
i think bearcycle come to its end. Happy new year. January will be start of next bullrun/little rise probably.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: December 27, 2014, 11:02:13 AM
@prominer

what  we found out: selling coins to a merchant is the same as selling coins on the market.
Later uno will be worth more and if people don't go out and all at once sell large number of coins to the same merchant it will not even be felt.
Right now people had shopping spree at coaex. They probably  thought better sell to  merchant than sell on  market and that's right because this way more people get involved and uno in more hands. We'll get over the sellorders of coaex. How much they need to sell? Few hundred at 0.0062? Will be bought later...

I think all the selling was many factors:
-maybe a bigger bagholder selling
-maybe  coinbroker panicselling what they have been sold with arbitrage without even knowing apparently (they must have held too many)
-people selling large amounts to metal merchant which of course goes back to the market
-plus more people selling because of all the selling (feedbackloop)

But because it's uno the amount that can be sold  is very limited. Many coins changed hands. Once we are over the current selling it's going up again, no doubt.
Need to be a little patient i think.
I play this way:
put a bit of buysupport and wait. If it gets dumped in i slowly ad buysupport again (maybe little lower). If i get coins cheaper is even better for me. One day in the near future sellers will have either no more to sell or we  are at a cheap price they refuse to sell - the equilibriium in the market. I am waiting  for the equilibrium. Once we see that we can go up again. I  think we must be close to that point now.

If you look closer: we got dumped 300 and 400 chunks in the 6s and 7s earlier. Last two weeks and this week it is chunks of 100 to 200. So selling comes down a little. I am waiting for these dumpings of 100 and 200 coins to stop. When they stop we can be at the 8s in a blink of an eye. I don't worry so much about it. We're right now just back at accumulation prices and maybe this  time the coins are with stronger hands. I think next uptrend will be to new high - our last high was 0.01 - i think we'll go higher next time around. What goes up must come down and goes back up after that Wink
Playing swings correctly gives you more uno. All markets go up and down. I think it's good we didn't rally higher few months ago (we clearly could have done that).
Possibly it's good to not go all out with buying  but play it up,down, up, down, up, down, up, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, up, up  Wink
When people see uno goes up, down and up again reliably more people will come to play the swings.
The longer  it goes up and down and stays stong regardless the more trust there will be and more people could potentially desire to hold coins longterm and the more stable it will be longterm. I think this round of selling makes the market stronger later. Testing support is good. We came from 0.003 moved  to 0.01 and if we find the floor at 0.005 next time top can be higher than 0.01 and floor after that will be higher again. (higher high and higher lows on the longterm-scale)
In all that coaex isn't  an issue Wink Just my 2 cents. Would have been nice to get to 10$ a coin already this  year but ok, we had some sellers so it'll be not 10$+ this year but probably next year.

I look at it relaxed and merchants is ok for me. This should be an exception with a single merchant selling this many coins. I don't see it as a big issue in the future.

Best is probably to get MORE different merchants selling their coins in smaller amounts at different prices. Wink

So i am for more merchants with less coins each   Smiley
Think about that

problems are created with everybody shopping at the same merchant because the merchant will have sellwalls for the market in that way.
So shopping more diverse with more different merchants is recommneded from my viewpoint.

Ideally 99,5% of supply is used as store of wealth and only smallest parts should circulate as currency. I  agree with that, prominer.  Wink
We'll be getting there.
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