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421  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 30, 2019, 08:42:49 PM
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Just to repeat again:
The July PANIC month is a JOKE AGAIN (like the February Panic Month)! How many times do I need to say that? Armstrong's Arrays do NOT work at ALL.


Is anyone even surprised?

Just look how Martin Armstrong makes these arrays up. It is documented here:

https://www.ask-socrates.com/How-To-Use-Forecasting-Arrays#TradingCycle

Bullish and bearish markets have empirical nominal duration that last specific time units (days, weeks, months years):
 - Bullish: 7-11-14-21 time units
 - Bearish: 2-3-5-6-10-12-18 time units


OK, every clock is right twice a day. Your mileage may vary ...

This numerology magic may turn out to be a very crude random number generator at best.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
422  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 30, 2019, 08:29:48 PM
- What are the signals exactly? - Are they based on the reversals he publishes on Socrates now - Since I remeber MA saying the signals are only available to corporate clients.
Those are reversals (major, I'd say). You can use major reversals only or minor and major reversals for more frequent trading. There are even 2 more reversal levels. Those can all be included or left out and just focus on majors only
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/socrates/reversals-are-scalable/

- Assuming the "system" is long: When is the long position closed and a short position entered? At the first reversal, or second, or third or forth?
the first

- At what price is the new position entered? Since the market must close the month below the monthly reversal (in case of a potential new bear market) is the trade executed at the close of the month (in the last hour or so) - or on the opening prices of the new month. Makes sometimes a big difference.
at the opening of the first business day the of the month

Also I would not call adding to a position (leveraging). I would call it pyramiding.
correct, but you can still leverage the pyramid.

Also why does the run end 2016 at Dow 17000. It would be interesting to see the results of the move to 27'000 (easy) then down to 24'000 then up to 27'000 ten down to 22'000 then up again to 27'000 now - (all not so easy !).
The chart was posted in Feb. 2016, but in general , consolidation periods are not a strength of the reversals when using them as buy/sell signals without arrays.


@Alex-11, @Gumbi, Just post your trades in real time. Any HINDSIGHT historical data/phantom trades are NOT useful. They are easily tempered and cannot be verified.

If Socrates is that great, it will be extremely EASY for you to post a winning trade. EXTREMELY EASY.

The July PANIC month is a JOKE AGAIN (like the February Panic Month)! How many times do I need to say that? Armstrong's Arrays do NOT work at ALL.


Also, regarding to a comment that Armstrong's system may work well for a trending market, but doesn't work well for a side-way market, here is my opinion on that.

Whatever trading system, it MUST work on ALL kinds of markets. At such time when people realize that the market is TRENDING, that is already HINDSIGHT from the technical analysis. Whether it's trending in months or in years, by the time you realize that it is TRENDING, it is kind of LATE, and not much profits left to be made.

You cannot apply the trading system, and just hope that you're applying it in the correct environment. If I know whether the market will be going sideway, or trending down, or trending up, for the NEXT 6 months, I can ALREADY use that information for successful trades, withOUT using ANY trading system, whether it's from Armstrong or not.


So again, I want to repeat, ONLY live trades qualify to prove any trading systems (including Armstrong). Nothing else with some hindsight knowledge sneaked in here or there through backdoor is just trying to fake the result.

If you guys want to keep your "knowledge" that "Socrates works great" to yourself without showing it, that is FINE, and you should NOT participate in this forum. We are all here waiting to SEE how Socrates can work successfully. You don't want to show it, that is FINE. Just stay AWAY. Otherwise, anything else that quotes "historical trades" with hindsight is just propaganda.

Just to repeat again:
The July PANIC month is a JOKE AGAIN (like the February Panic Month)! How many times do I need to say that? Armstrong's Arrays do NOT work at ALL.




Exactly. I rally cannot see the purpose of digging into this hindsight chart. What is the purpose of that stuff?

Alex11 you are extremely naive. Do you think we are idiots? Who would want to waste time with that?

Plus markets are trading sideways more often than not.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
423  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 30, 2019, 05:27:26 PM
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This is what I was addressing and can not be attributed to the subject. All the sites, news and blogs do it. I stopped visiting Zero Hedge in 2013 for this very reason, sensationalism for Clicks for ads
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My point is they all do it to grab your attention dishonestly and should be pointed out.

I agree. It seems to be worse than what you describe.

I tried three times to get zerohedge membership with the single purpose of being able to comment on their articles. All attempts failed.

I have the suspicion, that zerohedge sells pre-defined comments as part of their package.

Otherwise I cannot explain how Martin Armstrong's articles on zerohedge get public comments 100% biased exclusively in his favor. If I cannot comment then there is no other conclusion.

Armstrong does not really have genuine ideas and research. It is all re-published at best. Content aggregation at its cheapest level. And I think it is a crime because he sells his crap as being the solution of this problem, claiming the higher ground, for the people looking for answers.

Then he builds this Socrates contraption that he uses to rip people off without having to even write anything.

I really do not have any words for this any more.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain


424  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 30, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
Here goes insane Marty again:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/france/macrons-french-police-opening-attacking-the-people-seriously-injuring-if-not-trying-to-kill-them/

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Macron's French Police Openly Attacking the People Seriously Injuring if not Trying to Kill Them
Blog/France
Posted Jul 30, 2019 by Martin Armstrong
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Unfortunately, as governments begin to collapse moving into 2021/2022 due to the complete failure of Socialism, they will not simply yield to the people and admit that their fiscal mismanagement is the cause of destroying everyone's future. They will not go quietly into the light. Here we see French police acting no different than the police in Venezuela terrorizing and suppressing the people there as well.

Maybe I saw a different video, but I think that the French police here was really polite against the quite extreme protesters. What a total sensationalist.

I believe you were looking at a different video. The one he posted clearly shows a Cop knocking out a female with his baton. I agree with most of what is assessed here but this video is far from police politeness.

It is still pathetic, sensationalist. Whose video? Who is the majority of protesters and what is their level of violence? Using the close-up of the violence of a single cop does not show that this is the same thing as in Venezuela. And this has to do with the mismanagement of taxes? This might be something else perhaps the consequence of political correctness where certain kinds of political / violent / racist / ideological / you name it movements were allowed to grow to the level where they cannot be contained any more. We really don't know from this article what is going on. Martin Armstrong the incompetent mud-slinging flame-throwing moron analyzes the world at a distance with his notebook computer.

With three sentences. THAT is what the problem is.

Martin Armstrong does not care about details.

This is the proof. Disgusting.

That is why whatever Martin Armstrong produced did not function and whatever he will produce will not function, either.

I hope we are still discussing Martin Armstrong and not the situation in France. That is why I did not want to go into the details myself.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

425  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 29, 2019, 05:54:47 AM
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What I care about is if someone sells me something or a product then I expect and demand that the service or product does as claimed.
If not then that person or company has an obligation to prove it does what It says it does or to instruct the purchaser on the correct use of that service or product.
MA does nothing to rectify, prove otherwise nor instruct his subscribers in any way shape or form.
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Thanks for putting the Socrates quality of service into the right focus. The disclaimer on the Socrates home page is no excuse for the extreme failures I had to deal with. That is not acceptable for a product that is charged for at zero discount.

There is so much disrespect of the users. There is no road map, no list of open issues, no release schedule. There is simply no parallel in the software market / industry for the lack of everything. The word sub-standard would already be aiming too high because it would imply that some kind of measurement of this contraption was even possible with respect to any standard.

So when I look at what is being delivered, and what was delivered during the previous version of Socrates, then my conclusion inevitably is that Martin Armstrong suffers from delusion of grandeur while at the same time being incompetent in the field of basic software development and ignorant of the minimum requirements of any deliverable that he is charging for. Conclusion and recommendation: Don't touch Martin Armstrong's products, whatever they may be.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
426  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 29, 2019, 01:30:11 AM
I admit , it are difficult circumstances and at times I was also quite frustrated (mildly put). However, I've waited several years for this to be released and the trader version has been out only 6 month ago. So for me it's not a big thing to wait another 6 month for the bugs to be fixed.
I just train myself on what works well (e.g. Reversals) and omit what currently doesn't work well (e.g. reversal from other paces then dashboard table, daily and weekly arrays). For me the Socrates subscription is an investment that doesn't have to pay off quickly. I save myself the time and money to go to a WEC and for that money I can have almost 2 full years of Socrates Pro subscription with 5 assets


This is interesting. How to win, save money, without trading, just by buying the Socrates junk, trying to understand it while it is broken. In German, this would be called Milchm?dchenrechnung, pretzel logic.

It might be better to just wait until the bugs are fixed, and then test drive the final product. This would have an advantage as follows: If Armstrong dies before the bugs are fixed, then you win the most because Socrates will never be released and you saved a lot of time not having to learn anything about the product.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
427  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 08:06:31 PM
well, I've invited people several times to check out my forum. Most of the times I didn't take this thread serious because MAtalk and Sloanf ?ere here and discussed things I was not interest in.

So now I've mentioned this thing here in the forum and looks like you would love to call me an a........ . This is the tone here sometimes on this thread. Not very inviting.


Not really. We need to understand that this is about serious money that is being charged, while Martin Armstrong would perhaps prefer to be called a genius while delivering a shoddy product, and that his clients behave like this is some kind of social club. And it is you guys who always blame the users for anything while conveniently using their precious time to let them test out the system for your convenience while being charged.

This is a complete rip-off and you should not be surprised that people are getting extremely angry about this especially if they find Martin Armstrong lying about almost everything at every corner.

What I mean is that it is not a good environment to work in.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
428  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 07:43:19 PM
The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:
The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.
 
Is this from the Premium Overview?
Yes. And the number of the next electable reversal is the same as in the trader level. Which means the trader level gets garbage reversals as well.




Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
429  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 07:38:53 PM
well, look here ?http://armstrong.forumprofi.de/showthread.php?tid=76&pid=232#pid232

So since 04/04/2019, since you posted in a different forum not this one, for almost three months, you personally know that the Reversals in the reports are garbage. To hell with the users. Let's charge them anyway.

Something does not add up here.

Wherever I look I find a new piece this Sh*t. If I was you I would look for a new job. Honestly.


I wrote it many times in this forum. I repeat the fact nothing else. I can't help it if the people prefer the opinions and ignore the facts. In the end, I was right all along and I did not make a single mistake. Because I stay away from the opinion.






Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
430  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 07:20:42 PM
Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal.
yes,the system keeps those reversals. The 1362 reversal number was there even for years and election failed several times.


The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:

Date - - - Close Reversal - Comment
2019-06-21 140010 - 144370 - Reversal too high to elect


The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.


THE SOCRATES PREMIUM OVERVIEW COMMENTARY, NY GOLD NEAREST FUTURES AS OF THE CLOSE OF Thu. Jun. 20, 2019:

REVERSAL MAP SYSTEM
-- DAILY -- | -- WEEKLY -- | - MONTHLY - |

 165510 | 1 | 167040 | 1 | 167240 | 1 |
 165390 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 165010 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 163610 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 161980 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 161450 | 2 | ....... | 0 | 161660 | 1 |
 161050 | 1 | 161290 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 160910 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160840 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160510 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160170 | 1 | ....... | 0 | 160440 | 1 |
 159020 | 1 | 159020 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 158860 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 158320 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 156820 | 1 | ....... | 0 | 156990 | 1 |
 156430 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 148490 | 1 | 148730 | 1 | 148730 | 1 |
 147960 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 147850 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 146130 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 144500 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 142400 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 142340 | 1 | 142340 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 141160 | 1 | 141650 | 1 | 141650 | 1 |
 140010 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
----------------------------------------


Applying our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 144370 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 128070.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain



431  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 06:33:35 PM
It's not cherry picking. In the revesal system it doesn't matter how many reversals got elected. 1 elected reversal is enough.

It is cherry picking. There was never a single electable reversal. Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal. It pushed it up so it was never electable even once. The process repeatedly failed week after week. In other words the nearest reversal was never confirmed.

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total non-sense. If you've purchased the Pro Level, then everybody gets the same reports.
If you have only subscribed to the Detailed Market Subscription, then of course you get less than the premium level.
The simple fact is that different users get different reversals. Tell me this is true which you did then you are saying that different users are trading against each other which is what I said and which is disgusting.

You simply don't have any credibility. You are looking at the topic four weeks after I posted the issue at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

trying to find excuses now instead of warning the users THEN when it would have been appropriate.

The day after I posted this, there should have been warnings in the reports.

As I wrote earlier, you are insulting the Socrates users with this. You can't have it both ways. You have failed completely in the execution of your duties.

And, there is no reason to believe that the reversals were actually in the dashboard as you say. It is too unlikely that the system simultaneously produces two different sets of reversals. You might just be saying this because you know that I have not archived the dashboard which you haven't, either. So I prefer to stick with the facts.

And here is the logic to support my last claim: If in fact there had been a discrepancy between the reversals in the dashboard and the reports, then at least one of the hundreds of users of the system would have noticed that. Since that wasn't the case because only now you raise this, your claims are more likely than not completely bogus.





Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
432  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Failed Challenge


just one example should be enough: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election,

The elected reversal was 1291 and it was indeed only visible in the dashboard in advance. That's why I said, better use only the dashboard at this time for reversals.
If you have archived the dashboard, you should find that number.

And then there are these other 13 elected reversals which you didn't comment at all, except that you don't seem to have archived those numbers but you want uncover an alleged fraud without even having all of the data yourself.
As I said, you have given yourself some of the reversals that were elected. e.g.
2019-05-31 131110 131480
2019-06-07 134610 136270

These 2 were elected in the week of 06/03 and 06/17
There is no need to post the other 11 reversals because only 1 elected reversal per week is already enough. to prove that you are wrong with claiming that no reversals were elected.


It looks like you have to compensate your lack of arguments by constantly screaming (bold text) at the forum

It is not possible to reconcile your statements with the report content:

Relying on our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 131480 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 126780.

Saying one should look at this part of the report and not another one, and saying this weeks after the fact is cherry-picking. Also this means that users of different levels of Socrates get different reversals so they would be trading against each other. Disgusting.

If you are saying that the reversals in the reversal table in the summary report which is part of the premium subscription are wrong, then this is devastating and you should have taken the system off-line immediately because there is no warning in the report that says that the numbers are wrong and the dashboard should be used.

Do you not realize that you are insulting Socrates users with this?

You cannot assume that all Socrates users are aware of the content of this blog even before it is posted. Meanwhile I must assume that your claims are simply wrong because they are made after the fact, obviously contradicting authentic archived data - just to get out of this mess.

Too bad for you. I cannot help you there. It is simply not credible that a decades old reversal system cannot get the reversal numbers printed for years. The numbers are in the reports since January 2018. You are basically saying that these numbers have been wrong since then. Printed in two different reports, while being printed there three times with the same values consistently. Perhaps send Martin Armstrong on a computer course?



I am suggesting you are turning the lights off. Your claims and recommendations regarding the system are getting more grotesque and unprofessional by the day.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

433  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 05:02:29 PM
Failed Challenge


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Closest Weekly published Bullish Reversals:

Date - - - - - Close Reversal - Comment
2019-05-10 128740 132590 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-17 127570 131480 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-24 128360 129100 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-31 131110 131480 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-07 134610 136270 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-14 134450 134990 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-21 140010 144370 - Reversal too high to elect

This is evidence that not a single published Weekly Bullish Reversal was elected during this seven week rally. Unfortunately, Socrates pushed the Reversals higher and higher, out of reach.

AnonymousCoder claimed the above.
During that 7 week rally there were the following number of reversals elected. These were taken from the dashboard reversals table and always in advance published. Not only were they in the dashboard, but also in the reversals tab and after elected, they also showed up in the elected reversals table.
Week of 05/27 - 1 bullish Reversals elected

You are a bit late with this. However, just one example should be enough to disprove your point: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election, one day before on Thursday 05/30. The nearest planned Weekly Bullish Reversal on Thursday is 131480 which is above the Friday close. No reversal was elected.

This is repeated in two reports. The number appears three times, including in the text in the summary report:

Relying on our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 131480 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 126780.


YOU are quoting the fake reversal that can be seen only after the fact. You don't even quote numbers only counts which is consistent with what I found. Interesting that you are perpetuating the fraud here in real time again to give me yet another opportunity to expose it for all to see.

This is the ultimate proof that this elaborate scam needs even MORE repeating of the facts because the bullshit flies so high and these stinking reversals are just designed to confuse everybody.

I have to say that I use a REAL COMPUTER to discover this fraud not Martin Armstrong's contraption.


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Week of 06/03 - 5 bullish Reversals elected
Week of 06/10 - no reversal elected
Week of 06/17 - 8 bullish Reversals elected

no bearish reversal was elected until today from the week of 05/27.

Claiming that no single published weekly bullish reversal was elected is therefore wrong. Socrates got the move perfectly right, only considering the reversals.
Even from the above table it's easy to see that bullish reversals were elected. They disappeared only once elected. So this there is no phantom in this case,


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

434  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 02:43:55 PM
Nobody cares about what you say.

That's wrong Tongue
And please stop spamming this forum with your mantra's!
This is not your forum! - Roll Eyes

Talks to self. Gee, I have been waiting for this to happen for weeks. You are so clueless. Now everybody can see that Gumbi, Alex-11, over45, and Strike Eagle 26 use this forum for Socrates marketing. Go ahead. Talk to "each other" and ask each other some fake questions as in the armstrongeconomics.com blog Kiss


And, because Socrates does not work ...

Martin Armstrong misrepresents hypothetical performance results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

We did some work to find out and nobody could challenge the results. Now the game is over.

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45 and Alex-11, you Martin Armstrong affiliates. Nobody is asking you for advice here. Nobody is interested. People don't ask questions here about Socrates, a discredited "system", any more. Did you not notice? How long do you want to play this game? Go away and post at armstrongeconomics.com. People who want your stuff can go there. This is clearly not your forum.

This Armstrong discussion has developed, reached a certain stage. This can't be reversed. Discussions reach conclusions. After more than 300 pages. Now you want to ignore all that and start from scratch? Not here. Do that at armstrongeconomics.com.

And here we are learning about opinions:

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@Gumbi
you are absolutely right. He lost patience and now wants revenge. He can't accept opinions that differ from his own.

So far the most opinions come from Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45 and Alex-11. Never any facts because nobody could show anything that works. Never. I am not interested in opinions, only facts. First it is hard to find the facts, but it is extremely easy to repeat them because they cannot be disputed. And that is what you are getting from my replies. You write to me what I am not interested in: Opinion. I respond with what you are not interested in: Facts.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
435  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 02:18:15 PM
Armstrong is worth an absolute fortune he doesn't need the money, you clearly know nothing about him.
...

Nobody cares about what you say.

Socrates has been thoroughly discredited here. To be a scam. To be a fraud. Not a single poster could prove that it works.

And, because it does not work ...

Martin Armstrong misrepresents hypothetical performance results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429


We did some work to find out and nobody could challenge the results. Now the game is over.

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45 and Alex-11, you Martin Armstrong affiliates. Nobody is asking you for advice here. Nobody is interested. Go away and post at armstrongeconomics.com. People who want your stuff can go there. This is clearly not your forum.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

436  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 28, 2019, 07:31:38 AM
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All MA is doing is trying to leave his Socrates system so his kids or other family members can continue to fleece the sheeple who believe that this system actually works. Ive tried the Pro version with another poster on here whose very well schooled in the trading game and plain and simple it doesn't work
The penny finally dropped for me when he posted in late December or very early January
DO NOT GO LONG!!! well no further comment required on that statement..
He is a Dud Dude who makes his money pulling the Socrates scam

Thank you!

He wants this to be his retirement scheme. Since we have proof that it does not work, it is our duty to prevent this scam from continuing.

Socrates does not work.
Martin Armstrong is still misrepresenting hypothetical performance results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
437  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 27, 2019, 11:08:19 PM
Over 100 people read this blog every day.
you can't know this, unless you are an admin but you aren't
You probably mean page hits, but that is that is not the same as unique users reading. I'm sure you know that.

Speaking of statistics. Since you started your crusade against Armstrong on this ominous page 273, here are some stats.

40 people have posted 620 comments in this thread. You alone have posted 160 comments, more than 25 people combined
The top 10 people have posted more that 80% of all comments.

So it's basically a 1 man show trying to force his opinion on 1 or 2 dozen other, active forum members. But you are not the only one who is trying this. I know of at least 2 other people here in this thread.

Well, thanks again for posting. And thanks for your statistics lesson. I don't mind being one of the top 10. I encourage you to post as many articles as the people who have made actual contributions. Feel free to do so. The more the better. And I feel flattered that you give me the magic power to force opinion on other people who never even complain about this. I did not know that I have hypnosis power of mind.

And yes, if you read my previous post, you find that Alex-11 may get 100 readers per day not does this forum only get 100 page hits. Page hits may be thousands per day.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
438  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 27, 2019, 10:42:26 PM
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Over 100 people read this blog every day.

How can you possibly know this?

I look at the index at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0

and find the statistics of "Martin Armstrong Discussion". We get between 150 and 200 views per day. While a viewer maintains a session, say for a whole day, and posts multiple articles, the number of views does not get incremented. So they are NOT page hits. I can read all 300+ blog entries, and this counts as zero or one view depending on whether I read this blog before in the same session. So it is fairly accurate. Perhaps there is some double counting because the same person re-boots the computer or closes the browser, but we are not too far off with the number 100.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

439  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 27, 2019, 05:25:14 PM
1) A system that was developed decades ago is out of date already, as has been discovered by a large number of people in this blog excluding the known group of posters affiliated with Martin Armstrong (Alex-11, over45, Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26). It cannot be used to trade. We know this. It is a hindsight system.

Just because you and a few other people failed to understand it and trade profitable, doesn't mean it's not working.
Maybe there is no need to adapt the system because human behavior doesn't change over the decades or centuries.

yes, someone will get the code when Armstrong is gone, but he wants to avoid that the banksters get it. He has presented a roadmap for this in his blog, somewhere.... I read about it 3-4 years ago. I guess it could be something like a cooperative that is managed by the Socrates user itself. I think this was his vision.

Either way, That all still doesn't matter today :-)
The point is, is Socrates working or not? If yes, then all of those things will only matter mid or long term.
If you don't believe that Socrates is working, then there is no point in thinking or talking about those questions brought up by you, anyways. It is just a distraction from what really counts. People who follow Armstrong for a long time have asked those questions before (yes questions about the future of Socrates are valid questions) and the plan is already in place and will be executed once the time has come.

from a quick search: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/socrates/socrates-7-the-ipoa-lot-of-emails-are-coming-in/



What a joke. The perma-IPO since 2015 for a decades old software owned and created by a 69 year old man who believes in perpetual motion driven scooters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51764004#msg51764004 , - for the reason to not let the "banksters" have the software. Roll Eyes Do you actually believe that stuff? Is the Armstrong blog your bible? Please write more nonsense. Every time you write (and I don't even need to respond), you put one more nail in the Socrates coffin. Over 100 people read this blog every day.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

440  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: July 27, 2019, 02:47:11 PM
Also please consider that Armstrong is approaching 70 years. Nobody is mentally in his prime performance years in his 70ties. We all deteriorate then.
this doesn't matter. The goal of Socrates is to be able to trade without Armstrong. He said multiple times that this is the purpose of the system. Investors and traders shall be able to use the system even when Armstrong is not there anymore. The reversal system and the Global Market Watch was developed decades ago.

There are multiple problems with this because everything matters:

1) A system that was developed decades ago is out of date already, as has been discovered by a large number of people in this blog excluding the known group of posters affiliated with Martin Armstrong (Alex-11, over45, Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26). It cannot be used to trade. We know this. It is a hindsight system.

2) A system that does not have the ability to adapt will not survive future market conditions.

3) A system with a single exclusive author (Martin Armstrong) who does not share the source code even with any person within his own company

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/att-the-biggest-traitor-to-the-american-people/

The coding of the actual AI trading and structure of analysis is done ONLY by myself. There is no employee to be bribed or compromised to get the code. That has been my personal confinement my whole life; that is what they focused on in the movie.

is too shallow and primitive due to the limitations of the single work force. His energy has mainly been spent with marketing, publishing, writing reports and books, running conferences and being in prison for 11 years without access to a computer. Not much time for software development - and it shows https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51916837#msg51916837 . Socrates will not survive because of the lack of substance and momentum.

4) A "system" which has been proven to contain code that produces reports with fraudulent statistics
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429
 will not have a sufficiently large enough user base with interest in it that would warrant continued interest of potential future business partners or even software developers (who wants to even get close to this?).

5) No business model can be constructed around a software with no people behind it and an undefined development life cycle i.e. no continuity. That means that at a certain point in time, someone has to turn the lights off.

Consequently, anyone who is investing time building "skills" to interpret this "system" in an attempt to trade the markets with it will discover that these "skills" will soon be obsolete in an instant.

There is no future in this. In contrast, there is future in companies with investment in the skills of the people who build the products of that company so that the company and the people are the same, an organic organization. Not a company that has a product with an expiry date.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
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