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421  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana cara yg benar untuk inves bitcoin?? on: November 05, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
Gan maaf.  Saya baru disini.  Masih belum paham, tapi mau mendalaminya.  Ntah telat atau belum tapi berkeingan sekali.  Mohon bimbingan dan ilmunya ya

Mau tanya sedikit gan,  bagaimana cara investasi yg benar melalui bitcoin ini?  Adakah tahap per tahap nya. Bila ada mohon penjelasan nya.  Dan bagaimana biar cepat dapat inves di bitcoin ini?? Grin
Maaf, masih awam banget wkek
Agan mau investasi jangka panjang atau jangka pendek? kalau jangka pendek ane lebih menyarankan agan untuk mencoba trading di salah satu market. Modalnya jangan besar-besar dulu karena kalo trading tanpa adanya pengetahuan dasar dan hanya mengandalkan feeling maka hasilnya akan percuma, yang ada malah buntung hehe. Maka ada baiknya agan pelajari dulu dasar-dasar trading ini.
Sedangkan untuk jangka panjang nya agan bisa mengikuti ICO (Initial Coin Offering). Biasanya jika suatu proyek ingin memulai debutnya, sebelum masuk ke market mereka akan mempromosikan penjualan koinnya dulu dengan harga yang tentunya diharapkan lebih murah dibandingkan dengan harga ketika listing di market nanti. Selain itu gunanya ICO ini untuk mengumpulkan dana dari para investor untuk menjalankan proyek yang sedang mereka kerjakan agar sesuai dengan target-target yang telah mereka tentukan sebelumnya (roadmap).
422  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pemula harus tau cara Atasi Dompet di retas Malware on: November 05, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
~Snip~
Untuk menghindari kejadian seperti ini mangkanya harus selalu siap sama antivirus gan hehehe, kalo bisa pake antivirus nya yang ori jangan bajakan. Karena kalo antivirus yang kita beli secara original selain mendukung developernya, kita juga bakal dapet update-an nya secara rutin jadi kalo ada virus-virus yang baru bisa langsung ke detect. Alternatif lainnya kalau mau aman sih bisa pake online wallet, tetapi untuk penyimpanan private key nya yang harus dijaga dan tidak boleh ceroboh.
423  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana cara yg benar untuk inves bitcoin?? on: November 04, 2018, 12:27:25 PM
Gan maaf.  Saya baru disini.  Masih belum paham, tapi mau mendalaminya.  Ntah telat atau belum tapi berkeingan sekali.  Mohon bimbingan dan ilmunya ya

Mau tanya sedikit gan,  bagaimana cara investasi yg benar melalui bitcoin ini?  Adakah tahap per tahap nya. Bila ada mohon penjelasan nya.  Dan bagaimana biar cepat dapat inves di bitcoin ini?? Grin
Maaf, masih awam banget wkek
Kalau ane pahamin dari kata-kata agan, agan mau investasi yang jangka panjang yaa? lebih baik jauhi trading jika niatnya seperti itu. Sebenernya menurut ane sih tempat investasi kripto yang paling bagus itu ikut ICO (initial coin offering). Tetapi pemilihan proyek ICO yang bagus ini yang agak susah, karena sekarang banyak proyek yang gak jelas dan cuma mau mengambil untung dari uang investor aja sehabis itu langsung gak peduli lagi nasib investor bagaimana hehe. Jadi, usahakan kalau agan mau investasi lakukan research terlebih dahulu yaa, jangan gampang terkena micin Grin
424  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: kabar Cina legalkan crypto on: November 04, 2018, 12:19:49 PM
dapat kabar jika Cina melegalkan crypto dan bitcoin apakah ini menajadi awal dari bullran seperti tahun kemarin ketika Jepang melegalkan Bitcoin? ya semoga saja kita tunggu saja

https://www.ccn.com/chinas-merchants-are-legally-allowed-to-accept-bitcoin-and-crypto/
Jika berita ini benar, tentunya ini pasti sangat berefek besar bagi market dan benar kata agan ada kemungkinan ini akan menjadi awal dari bullrun seperti kasus tahun kemarin ketika Jepang mulai melegalkan Bitcoin. Tapi ane rasa sih untuk akhir tahun ini harga bitcoin dan kawan-kawannya belum bisa naik tinggi lagi seperti tahun kemarin, Nah tapi disamping itu berita ini justru bisa menjadi awalan yang bagus bagi nasib kripto untuk beberapa tahun kedepan.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We can’t trust anyone! on: November 04, 2018, 04:53:44 AM
Hey guys. Remember, in crypto sphere we can’t trust anyone! ICO rating sites are lying to us, you have to do YOUR OWN RESEARCH always! Remember this, and don’t let yourself be scammed!
Your statement is very true. Because in reality, ICO projects can pay a very high price to make their ICO scores look perfect on some ICO Listing Sites, and this does not guarantee the success of the ICO. In essence, we can only depend on ourselves about it and rely on our own research to achieve something maximally. Goodluck!!
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think 2017 was the best Year for Crypto on: November 04, 2018, 04:47:47 AM
As we know that, During the Nov 17 - Mar 18 The price of Crypto was too good I mean End of 2017 and start of 2018 is the best year of crypto. Whats your opinion?
If we look closely at all since the crypto currency was first traded. Yes, it can be concluded that at the end of 2017 until the beginning of 2018 is the best time for the history of crypto currencies. But the possibility in the future could be better and surpass that record.
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ✅✅✅BOUNTY [DARKPAYCOIN][SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] ⭕️💥💥MN/POS HUGE REWARDS!✅✅✅ on: November 04, 2018, 04:39:35 AM
Happy to join this campaign but I have a question for you as a DARKPAYCOIN Bounty Manager :

1. Do we need to wait for the list of participants to be accepted or can we start now?
2. Are you sure participant must post on your ANN with 3 or more post in a week? It can violate forum rules because we are forbidden to do multipost in 1 ann thread with a short period of time, it's the same as spam because excessive bump posts. I hope you can consider it.

By the way, I want to inform you that invite link of discord is invalid.
"This invite may be expired, or you might not have permission to join."
Please check it, Thank you.

Thanks for pointing out that expired invite link, appreciate it. No you can start now, you meet all the criteria so no need to wait for approval. Only those that don't meet the requirements will be removed. The rules about posting in the ANN are not too strict, as long as you meet the post quota even if it doesn't include the ANN ones you will not be removed. But it would be good for the project if participants were to follow it and as long as they are relevant posts and not spam i don't think the bitcointalk mods will mind. We don't want posts just bumping the thread only but if you have some decent feedback on the project or some comments to make there we would love to hear them.
Thank you for your clarification. After I read about your explanation, and I will try to explain it again in accordance with the points that I catched from your explanation:
1. I can start this campaign now, because I meet all the criteria
2. Participants are not required to post at ANN Thread at least 3x or more in a week. The important thing is we have to make at least 15 posts in a week. But it would be better if we occasionally share information and ask useful questions on ANN Threads.

1 more question. Which board do you count? Are all boards allowed (including local board)?
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ✅✅✅BOUNTY [DARKPAYCOIN][SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] ⭕️💥💥MN/POS HUGE REWARDS!✅✅✅ on: November 03, 2018, 10:04:36 PM
Happy to join this campaign but I have a question for you as a DARKPAYCOIN Bounty Manager :

1. Do we need to wait for the list of participants to be accepted or can we start now?
2. Are you sure participant must post on your ANN with 3 or more post in a week? It can violate forum rules because we are forbidden to do multipost in 1 ann thread with a short period of time, it's the same as spam because excessive bump posts. I hope you can consider it.

By the way, I want to inform you that invite link of discord is invalid.
"This invite may be expired, or you might not have permission to join."
Please check it, Thank you.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ❤️❤️▄▀▄❤️SEER❤️▄▀▄❤️❤️[Listed on Bitfinex][China Government Support]❤️❤️ on: November 02, 2018, 02:57:12 PM
For Your Information :
If any of you asks "has SEER held an ICO before?" the answer is "YES".
The following is the ICO price of SEER according the source I got :
1 ETH = 200,000 SEER
1 SEER = 0.000005 ETH
Now, 1 SEER on exchange around 0.000008 ETH

When talking about the price of SEER, the price of ETH will be a reference.
The highest price of ETH almost reached 1,500 USDT last year.
Currently, ETH is around 200 USDT.
Well, you could say the current price is 60% higher than the price at the time of the ICO.

For Indonesian, you can discuss further about SEER by joining the SEER Indonesia Community Group on the following link: https://t.me/seer_indonesia
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is KYC For Bounty Hunters Good? Lets Share Our Views! on: October 31, 2018, 02:10:10 PM
In recent times there has been several ICOs introducing KYC for bounty hunters, and that has made many Bounty hunters to feel bad.

I would like to share my opinion over this issue. I never see KYC as a bad idea, KYC will actually reduce scammers from using multiple accounts for one bounty and that will also give the genuine hunters the space to earn more in their bounty hunting.

The place I have issues with ICO projects running bounty programs is the idea of some projects that introduce KYC at the end of the bounty program which I really feel it should not be so. It is the same thing as those who used multiple accounts during the bounty because it will still reduce the amount the genuine hunters will earn.
If KYC should be introduced at the end of bounty, the left over coins/token should be distributed among the genuine hunters otherwise I see it as the same scam to the genuine bounty hunters:

Anyway, this is my own view, If you have a contrary view, please share it. I would like to know more also.
I like your opinion and I agree with it. As we know, KYC has a use as a medium for verifying user data. So, if KYC is used to verify the data of the bounty hunters themselves it is not a bad thing. This can also avoid the occurrence of multiple account usage in 1 campaign and there is nothing to be afraid of doing KYC because crypto is no longer anonymous.

But it is true that you say that if this campaign want to do KYC for bounty hunters, they must notify at the outset, not at the end of the campaign. Because if there are many bounty hunters who are not ready for KYC and want to remain anonymous then they will definitely leave it. This clearly becomes unfair because the campaign did not have any commitment from the start.
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cheating in Bounties/Airdrops on: October 31, 2018, 06:29:07 AM
If you find a case like that, the best step you can take is to immediately report the account to the bounty manager, so that the account can be quickly handled and blacklisted from all of its campaigns before they get the reward. Take care, guys!!
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lynked.World : Solving Real Life Problems in the current Digital Era on: October 30, 2018, 03:35:20 PM
Looks like this project has a great potential in the future. I believe your project can provide innovative problem solving with the technology you have, it can also provide enough benefits for many people. I hope your project can provide more services in the future. Development is very necessary, and I will support you because you have a good concept and have a solid team. Good luck for your project! Wink
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: How to pick best signature campaign on: October 30, 2018, 03:05:52 PM
What criteria do you guys use to pick your signature campaigns.  With some of them lasting 2-3 months it seems like a critical decision and I'm not quite sure how to go about it.  With all the scams out there I am fearful of picking a junker which not only hurts me but the people looking at my promotions.  I would like to have one picked out for when I switch over to Jr Member.  


To be honestly, I prefer to participate the signature campaign in the service section. You know why? That's because usually they are managed by a bounty manager who has experience and has good trust. Besides of that, if we participate the signature campaign in the service section we will be paid with coins/tokens that have been listed on the market such as BTC or ETH. But to participate in that, at least you have got enough merit. Because the bounty manager must select prospective participants who have quality posts (not containing garbage posts).
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty Hunters Dump Always? on: October 30, 2018, 02:57:40 PM
Do all bounty hunters dump Cryptos after they get paid?

I believe this is not a fair assessment as a lot has to do with the crypto project itself.

Its a matter of perspective really, not all bounty hunters have the same experience or motive, some people just need an opportunity to get crypto for projects that are very difficult to get in the token sales, Example is Ncash tokens of Nucleus.Vision the project has a 1 million USD budget and it is still above ICO price even in the bear market.

Additionally some projects treat bought hunters badly which will not encourage them to stick around for much longer after they get their tokens.

I believe tokens or coins getting dumped by bounty hunters depends a lot on the project itself.
The fact says that many bounty hunters do massive dumps when they get tokens from bounties. But not always those who make the token price below the ICO price, one of the other causes is if the project does not carry out its vision and mission in accordance with what is written on the whitepaper. This can cause many investors to be disappointed.
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Good recent bounty campaigns? on: October 28, 2018, 02:16:28 PM
Hi friends,
 many bounty hunters are complaining about bounty campaigns, that most of them are not profitable and so on.
Could someone here recommend to us some good recent bounty campaign?
It would be nice to get some tips here.

Thanks to everyone!
I took part in a bounty that was managed by a well-known bounty manager, usually they had checked before accepting the job as a bounty manager. And I am one of the loyal users of bountyguru for now. I recommend you to try the bountyguru platform, because I get a lot of good income from there.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Pre-ICO]🚩🌎FINANCEX - The next generation exchange|FIAT support🚩🌎 on: October 28, 2018, 01:34:07 PM
Nice project. In my view, your exchange market is dedicated to Asian countries that are difficult to make deposits using their country's currency, and you are present to meet those needs. I really appreciate your project in facilitating crypto currency enthusiasts in Asia. I hope with the features you provide on your exchange, crypto enthusiasts in Asia will be increase.

Cheers!!

Hit the nail on the head! Although we want to go further in the future. The market is only growing here so it's very exciting times!
Yeah, I hope you can do better in the future, such as adding relationships to other partners that are related to your project, and making innovations with the features that are more sophisticated than other markets. I believe you can take advantage of this excellent opportunity by presenting superior features, so that your exchange market is in great demand by people.
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Pre-ICO]🚩🌎FINANCEX - The next generation exchange|FIAT support🚩🌎 on: October 28, 2018, 03:43:57 AM
Nice project. In my view, your exchange market is dedicated to Asian countries that are difficult to make deposits using their country's currency, and you are present to meet those needs. I really appreciate your project in facilitating crypto currency enthusiasts in Asia. I hope with the features you provide on your exchange, crypto enthusiasts in Asia will be increase.

Cheers!!
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ATLANTICO NETWORK - Get profit from medical services on: October 27, 2018, 09:58:20 AM
Amazing, I feel just yesterday I saw no more than half of tokens that were sold, but now I'm surprised to see more than 90% of tokens have been sold and almost reached the hardcap target. I want to say "Congratulations" to the Atlantico Network team for the achievements that have been achieved at this ICO stage, hopefully after the ICO is complete you can provide the best service to investors and customers as well.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A MORE BETTER WAY TO MAKE CRYPTOCURRENCY MORE POPULAR on: October 27, 2018, 09:04:57 AM
I'm a huge fan of gaming rigs and consoles ,I've been thinking what if SONY and MICROSOFT decides to add any cryptocurrency as means of payment on PlayStation / Xbox /steam store? I bet it will be awesome ,millions of players are out there and I'm pretty sure not all gamers are into cryptocurrency yet ,how good would this be ? I would love to see this happen in the near future.  What kinda coin do you think will be perfect for buying games on consoles like PlayStation 4, Xbox one and steam? Ripple? Litecoin? Bitcoin?Or maybe we can see PSN network ,Xbox Live and Stream having there own coin/token in the future, my point is cryptocurrency does have HUGE usability. Great future awaits.
As far as I know, there are also popular gaming portals that use crypto (bitcoin) as a means of payment to buy their games or just to buy vouchers from there, one of which is steam (CMIIW). But I haven't used steam for a long time, so I don't know about the latest news updates about it. My last purchase in 2017 uses bitcoin to buy steam vouchers.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm afraid of losing money on: October 26, 2018, 05:18:47 PM
Ohh, dude. if you ask is there anything safe in this world? the answer is no. Especially if talking about wallets (a program created by humans is nothing perfect). Therefore they continue to update their software, because a hacker must always be looking for the smallest possible error to enter the system.

Then if you think whether wallet hardware is better than online wallet the answer is "no". Because I've seen last year's news (2017) about a popular wallet Trezor, it has been successfully infiltrated by hackers.
Sauce: https://blog.trezor.io/fixing-physical-memory-access-issue-in-trezor-2b9b46bb4522
Even with their latest updates they say that the chances of hacking are very small and even almost impossible, but still there are still many users who feel doubts about using them again.

I also feel what you feel about the risk of the wallet being hacked, but if you take good care of it, storing the private key in a safe place and not letting others use your laptop/pc simultaneously is one step to preventing this terrible thing from happening.

Here are some popular wallet lists that people think have enough security, you can see it here https://blockgeeks.com/cryptocurrency-safe/

I hope you can be helped by my answer.
Yup you're right. No system is safe, the main factor of a security is depending on how the user keeps the data. Because aside from the obligation of a developer to update regularly about the program bugs, the user himself also plays a role in maintaining the confidentiality of his data and should not be careless in using it. Most of the cases that are often found in victims whose purses are hacked are due to the carelessness of the user in using them.
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