That's absurd logic. Think about this....10 ppl invest, all their funds go into a cryptocurrency on the exchange, the coin(s) are bought then sold at the higher price for profit. Then the funds are placed back in the pool and a payout is calculated based on the amount of profits made. So collectively all the investors' funds are creating profit and by proxy funding the payouts.

How else would profit be made and paid??? From thin air!?

Not getting sucked into your game

People already have joined the company  

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You can just take the chance too, right? Nobody says you have to do anything  

BT had claimed they did an audit, but never actually shown proof of it. Yet ppl just assumed it was fact?

Again why so adamant about govt being involved? You trust the govt that much? You're pretty ignorant if you do.

Work for the state like I have and you'll find out its a f*d up system. There's no credibility just because a piece of paper says so. Even with govt certification, a business can be gone the very next day.

I trust this company because of its actions not a piece of paper.

Secondly would you please actually pay attention. In the very first post of this thread it is stated esoteric isn't performing any arbitrage trading. So stop thinking you're on the BT thread.

Thank you!

I would be lying if i said they did, why are you splitting hairs lol
And they can still show past transactions after the fact. god...

curious question, what makes you believe a bank can be trusted more with your money, when the U.S. govt's money has no value (the country's debt is higher then the money they can dish out to pay it back) That makes money worthless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=WL&index=1 especially part 3-4 of the series.

and then tell me why you wouldn't rather deal in bitcoin, say fuck off to the government, and just reap the benefits, regardless the outcome. rule #1) Don't invest what you can't afford to lose, #2) Read Rule 1 #3) simply watch out for the signs of a potential scam and pull out all you can, and move on.

Too much drama people. If you don't like it, stay away from it, you'll never accomplish anything just making accusations, seriuosly nothing.

You could call them too. Also when i spoke with Dan Pace over the phone, he told me they were looking at office space to rent. the location of jpaccounts may have multiple offices in the same building. Also being that Esoteric is new, the "internet" tends not to update records very quickly. And I've come across whitepages.com listing that were outdated. This occurred even with my own name/address.

I'm not saying it's wrong, but just dig deeper and be sure I let Dan know about your findings. He'll clear things up.

no actually they weren't, because they avoided me when i was trying to get actual proof of their "arbitrage" activities.

nobody really asked the right questions (that i know of).

Esoteric (dan and glenn) will be providing actual proof of where our money will be stored, and transactional histories through the blockchain when bitcoins are moved from the wallets to the exchanges, etc. As well as a plethora of information regarding trading activities in general and any other methods they might devise of to further profits with bitcoins (within legal limits).

They are making all the efforts to operate legitimately within the laws of the U.S., just give them some time to prove themselves..

Cause believe me, I will hunt them down if they turn out to be a scam (which as i've said they've done nothing to indicate otherwise at this time).

 

1. I doubt you do
2. no it's not my site, and yes I would, because I'd have nothing to hide whilst operating a legitimate service
3. And I fight for it, because I talk to the owner almost all day long in his chatroom on the website, and I"ve spoken with him over the phone., and they know their shit about cryptocurrency trading as well as the fact they will be posting information and features on the site that will prove their not operating as a ponzi.

So you should actually stop being prejudice open your mind a lil and actually go to the company (which you can officially visit them) and find out for yourself.

Cause right now all you are doing is pointing fingers and 3 of them are pointing back at you.

About there being ponzi fraud in the US?   I never said there isn't. But why make assumptions, just because a company offers a nice return on an investment that you can also achieve on your own with the same bitcoin trading methods they're doing?

The problem is you don't have any experience in bitcoin. Try actually getting involved in it. I just made a 5% profit by myself in bitcoin trading in only a few minutes yesterday on cex.io.

so go tell your story to someone else.

Are you aware you are making a claim without backing up your accusation with any physical evidence?

That's called libel isn't it?

I've proven everything i've said, why can't you?

No difference you say? Ok well prove your statement

I've put a lot of effort (my own time and expense), to which I've been using defending their image on this forum.

I believe my work is worth the kind gesture for any newcomers to help me out and sign up under my referral to support my time to get out the information to prove this company is the real mccoy.


Esoteric will be adding full company address/name/#'s to their site, as well as links for their fb/twitter accounts as well.

Keep an eye out!


(ref link below my post) thank you!

Try this on for size:

Esoteric's Whois Information:

http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?domain=ESOTERICINVESTMENTS.COM

If you're so skeptical,

make an account and talk to the owners, they're in the live chat right now

ty for that info. and yes the main focus is to have the schedules for the mainstream coins. that and possibly any new ones that gain popularity over night.

so if you know of some location or wish to assist in getting a list of the reward schedules, i would greatly appreciate it!