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October 26, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
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It's clear that this is your scam business and that you're not just some satisfied customer.

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October 26, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
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Just a nice story, NO PROOF. A scammer always wants to make you believe.
BT had a nice story too. Wink
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October 26, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
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BT had claimed they did an audit, but never actually shown proof of it. Yet ppl just assumed it was fact?
BT claimed they were hacked during audit. I don't believe there was any kind of audit, just a nice story. Nobody assumed a successful audit as a fact.

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Again why so adamant about govt being involved? You trust the govt that much? You're pretty ignorant if you do.
I'm talking about an audit done by a trustable independent company. There are several out their doing this as their everyday business.
Yep, I have more trust in govt than into this kind of private run startup company.

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I trust this company because of its actions not a piece of paper.
What actions? Their communication, their registered company, their names and where they live?
What I want to see are their daily results as a proof how they can pay this amount of interest every day + this fact audited.
We won't have any discussion if that was already done (no problem I think, because eso don't need investors money).

You mean their methods, they already report their daily results on Twitter and the results page lol
And when you make an account and fund it, you will see the payouts in your account after the results are posted. Here's your sign Smiley

https://www.esotericinvestments.com/results.php?refid=55


And this is exactly, 100% the same as how BT operated. Why should we trust this one more than BT?
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October 26, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
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You can just take the chance too, right? Nobody says you have to do anything  Smiley

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October 26, 2014, 06:18:17 PM
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 new site update! Social links and contact # added!

Deej Trader @DeejTrader
Affiliates can now add Google Analytics Tracking to their account! Directions/Instructions coming stay tuned!

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October 26, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
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nobody will join your scam
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October 26, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
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nobody will join your scam

People already have joined the company  Grin

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October 26, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
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nobody will join your scam

People already have joined the company  Grin

Its not a company ... we all know that  Wink
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October 26, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
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nobody will join your scam

People already have joined the company  Grin

Its not a company ... we all know that  Wink

Not getting sucked into your game Wink

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October 26, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
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I have been invested with Esoteric Investments since the very start. I am https://www.esotericinvestments.com/?refid=3 which is actually one more than Glenn's partner Dan XD
Anyways, I have put in $100 when it started, and I have not once felt that my money would be lost. Glenn and I stay in contact every day and have become good friends and I feel I can trust him, just as you all should as well. But I can't force trust and it's something you're gonna have to find on your own.
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October 26, 2014, 06:53:10 PM
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Without proof the funds 'invested' are not being used to fund payouts, the only reasonable course of action is to stay far away from schemes like this.

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October 26, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
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Without proof the funds 'invested' are not being used to fund payouts, the only reasonable course of action is to stay far away from schemes like this.

That's absurd logic. Think about this....10 ppl invest, all their funds go into a cryptocurrency on the exchange, the coin(s) are bought then sold at the higher price for profit. Then the funds are placed back in the pool and a payout is calculated based on the amount of profits made. So collectively all the investors' funds are creating profit and by proxy funding the payouts.

How else would profit be made and paid??? From thin air!?


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October 26, 2014, 07:07:51 PM
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The entire financial system operates this way in the world, someone's money is used to pay someone else !

When u buy food at the store you're paying the cashiers managers distribution centers, etc, and the circle continues.

Money is constantly recycled through the system.

Same with wall street and anytime you hand your money to any service out there. Smarten up ppl get yourself educated with how the economy operates Smiley

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October 26, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
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Without proof the funds 'invested' are not being used to fund payouts, the only reasonable course of action is to stay far away from schemes like this.

That's absurd logic. Think about this....10 ppl invest, all their funds go into a cryptocurrency on the exchange, the coin(s) are bought then sold at the higher price for profit. Then the funds are placed back in the pool and a payout is calculated based on the amount of profits made. So collectively all the investors' funds are creating profit and by proxy funding the payouts.

How else would profit be made and paid??? From thin air!?




It wouldn't. The operators would take funds from their investors and create the impression of shating profits by paying their victims a small portion of the funds they 'invested'  whenever payouts are due. The users, happy, report success, convince new marks to join and possibly throw more funds at the scheme themselves. This goes on until the amount to be paid to victims exceeds the amount of funds coming in from the victims.

There is no place for trust in giving money to strangers. If a 'business' can't prove they're not operating as outlined above, especially when claiming to operate an investment scheme, they are to be avoided at all costs.

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October 26, 2014, 07:18:16 PM
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Without proof the funds 'invested' are not being used to fund payouts, the only reasonable course of action is to stay far away from schemes like this.

That's absurd logic. Think about this....10 ppl invest, all their funds go into a cryptocurrency on the exchange, the coin(s) are bought then sold at the higher price for profit. Then the funds are placed back in the pool and a payout is calculated based on the amount of profits made. So collectively all the investors' funds are creating profit and by proxy funding the payouts.

How else would profit be made and paid??? From thin air!?




It wouldn't. The operators would take funds from their investors and create the impression of shating profits by paying their victims a small portion of the funds they 'invested'  whenever payouts are due. The users, happy, report success, convince new marks to join and possibly throw more funds at the scheme themselves. This goes on until the amount to be paid to victims exceeds the amount of funds coming in from the victims.

There is no place for trust in giving money to strangers. If a 'business' can't prove they're not operating as outlined above, especially when claiming to operate an investment scheme, they are to be avoided at all costs.

Then how would you like us to prove it to you?
This is not a HYIP, this is a trading pool.
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October 26, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
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Btw your bifurcated rhetoric, first claiming outrage at being accused of something unseemly, then implying that a little bit of unethical activity isn't so bad since it's what everyone does, doesn't exactly engender much trust, either.

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October 26, 2014, 07:20:18 PM
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This is not a HYIP, this is a trading pool.

What's the difference?

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October 26, 2014, 07:24:19 PM
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This is not a HYIP, this is a trading pool.

What's the difference?

A HYIP simply pays "investors" with money from new "investors", it is a ponzi.

A trading pool is a legitimate business. We take investors money, pool it together, trade with it, then split the returns up among the investors proportionally after we shave a little off the top for ourselves. It's no different than investing money into a wall street investing firm.

I am #3 btw: https://www.esotericinvestments.com/?refid=3
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October 26, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
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This is not a HYIP, this is a trading pool.

What's the difference?

A HYIP simply pays "investors" with money from new "investors", it is a ponzi.

A trading pool is a legitimate business. We take investors money, pool it together, trade with it, then split the returns up among the investors proportionally after we shave a little off the top for ourselves. It's no different than investing money into a wall street investing firm.


How does one tell the two apart?

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October 26, 2014, 07:34:22 PM
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This is not a HYIP, this is a trading pool.

What's the difference?

A HYIP simply pays "investors" with money from new "investors", it is a ponzi.

A trading pool is a legitimate business. We take investors money, pool it together, trade with it, then split the returns up among the investors proportionally after we shave a little off the top for ourselves. It's no different than investing money into a wall street investing firm.


How does one tell the two apart?
Honestly I don't have an answer for you... scratch that
But perhaps the best way to tell is communication, are the staff talking with you? Yes they are
Are you able to get the promised returns? Yessiree
Also almost all HYIP are based outside the US, we are based inside the US and are registered in the State of New Jersey.
www.esotericinvestments.com
Esoteric Investments LLC
3104 River Road
Point Pleasant, NJ 08742
(732) 903-8379

Entity ID: 0400647595

Which means we aren't going to commit fraud, and if we were to, then we could easily be hunted down by the authorities.
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