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421  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why would customers use Bitcoins? on: November 22, 2015, 12:43:27 PM
I came to figure out, why would a consumer/customer use Bitcoins?
You have to pay the 3 cent fee, while you dont have to pay anything when paying with a credit card.

So what is really a benefit for using Bitcoins, customer wise?

If you pay with credit card then seller pay huge fee. If merchants adopt Bitcoin then they don't have to pay huge credit card fees, they can use this as discount on buyer end. So;
Seller accept Bitcoin.
Seller get rid of credit card fees.
Seller discount the price.
Both buyer and seller profit. Mutual profit.
422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying a new car (or ?) with Bitcoin…. on: November 20, 2015, 04:51:22 PM
Besides BitPay integrated car dealers, there's a site called BitPremier and you can buy high-end cars with your Bitcoin.
423  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: November 20, 2015, 04:49:10 PM
I would sell all my Bitcoins if I have less than 3 years to live healthy. I'd go on a world tour and I don't care about any technological revolution till I die. No worries for retirement, I just live for the moment.
424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Paris France ISIS Killer had $3 million dollar BTC Wallet *FAKE* *UPDATED* on: November 20, 2015, 04:42:48 PM
It's too easy to prove it but they chose to write fake news just to scare people. I think we should teach these fudsters a lesson.

"No evidence was given, such as the bitcoin wallet address, as the hackers “cannot go into more detail at the moment on current investigations.”"

Whoever wrote this article, you can go fuck yourself.
425  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: November 20, 2015, 04:37:17 PM
Make plans for the better future.
Think a good investment that you love to.
Make your job as a hobby.

And doing all these 3 how can you expect to get rich? These has nothing to do to get rich. I think you misunderstand the question.
You can't get rich when you make plans for better future.
You can get rich if you do right investment but you don't have to "love" it.
You can't get rich when you do your job as a hobby. It's just make it easier to work, it's not about riches at all.
426  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: November 20, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
For me about 1900k btc will just cover my costs and hobbies Wink
If i stay alive for another 30 years.
I count a little less each year i become older.

I do not know where you live but believe me your prices are insane low:

Basically the cost of living cheap would be this:

mortgage                                                         1050 month
repair contracts for heating devices                        100 month
gas/electricity                                                    650 month
property taxes                                                    330 month
water                                                                110 month
Food                                                                 450 month
clothing                                                             150 month
insurances health/house/glas                                 450 month

And thats not in dollars but euro's
I got a few miners running which cover about 350 euro a month
And this is even without the needed drinks/fruits and other hobbies i have.

So you need 1.9 million BTC to retire, huh? Are you serious or trolling?
If you have 1050 month mortgage, which means 87.5 years, either you have a mansion size of MJ have or I think mortgage company fucked you very bad. I'm sorry for you.
427  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: November 19, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
This means 30$ spent on Bitcoin every week. Here goes my beer cash.

It's up to you. OP is asking is 1BTC a good long term investment, I say yes it's a great investment. But I'm investing much more than only 1 coin. I don't consume alcohol, so I can save more coins. Wink
If you want to save 30$ coins every week, that's great for both your investment plan and your health.
428  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: November 19, 2015, 03:04:11 PM
I love these predictions but 1 or 10 coins may not be enough. Bitcoin can never move beyond the point of $500 and remain the money of gamblers and nerds.

I think you don't consider block halving, mining difficulty, Bitcoin's limited supply etc. Do you really think 21 million Bitcoin is enough for all the world? There are 8 billion people in the world, probably more than 10 billion in next 20 years. But Bitcoin always will be limited to 21 million. The world is changing right now, even you don't feel it. Monetary system is changing, too.
If Bitcoin will survive in next 20 years, 10BTC would be more than enough to live great life.
429  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: November 19, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
Not at the moment. The price is not stable enough. I would try next week as their is talk that it will drop significantly then you should buy 1BTC to test out.

It's a long term investment. It's better to buy at different times. For example:
Buy 0.1BTC today.
Buy 0.1BTC next week.
Buy 0.1BTC 2 weeks later.
Buy 0.1BTC next month.
Buy 0.1BTC 2 months later.
...
Buy a total of 1BTC in 6 months. I think that's the best investment technique.
430  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: November 19, 2015, 02:56:59 PM
When I think about long term investments this immediately comes to my mind:
"I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." -- Satoshi
Risks are clear, invest what you can afford to lose. I think there's a big possibility to get right.
431  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: November 19, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund.  Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything.  How many do you think I would need to buy?

I understand that you don't want luxurious rich life but a decent life with a house, car and enough money to children's college loans etc. I think if you won't spend any in 20 years, then 1BTC is more than enough. But if you think about spending it starting 5 years from now then I think you need at least 10BTC for that life.
432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
ISIS has a Bitcoin wallet worth $3 million
ISIS makes up to $50 million a month from oil sales

Unless they get BTC for the oil sales I doubt this is going to shake the market considerably.

Where did you get that numbers? If ISIS have so much coins they would manipulate the market and we see better prices. That way they can buy more weapons for jihad.
But that's %99 fake information.
433  Economy / Economics / Re: Why gold price going down? on: November 17, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
Where did you get that conclusion? Because gold is going up, not down. It's more than %20 up in last 365 days.
If you are short-term trader in gold, I'm afraid to say but you'll watch melting your initial investment.
434  Economy / Economics / Re: Could the fact that ISIS use bitcoin ruin bitcoin? on: November 17, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
No, that's a stupid question. I think you opened this thread just to get attention. The answer is obvious, users have nothing to do with any currency, whether it's Bitcoin, dollar, yuan or pound, even cigarettes.
Ban Bitcoin. Why? ISIS use it.
Ban cigarettes. Why? Convicts use it.
Ban dollar. Why? Every criminal in the world use it.
Same failed logic.
435  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis Mining Advice on: November 17, 2015, 01:04:53 PM
It's impossible to ROI with 1 year contracts, almost impossible to ROI with life-time contracts. I have 1 referral in Genesis Mining, right now I get only referral commissions. It's only dust amount, of course. I don't recommend this service to anyone again. Invest for other instruments, not this cloud mining company.
436  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Give me list of avatar campaign on: November 16, 2015, 01:06:15 PM
Don't beg for fish, learn how to do fishing.
437  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Gemini in the Top 10 list. on: November 16, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
They are faking their volumes, just like Mt.Gox did in 2013. Too many inside trading, no real traders there. Remember their scandal last week, they cancelled completed trades.
438  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 11 to Nov 24 Set up stage-picks are now open! on: November 16, 2015, 01:00:33 PM
+8.8 Lituation

I guess we'll see a lot bigger difficulty rise this time. Interesting things are happening.
439  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How profitable can this mining setup be ? on: November 15, 2015, 11:38:26 AM
That's a big gambling, or should I say big waste of money?
440  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What is a good setup with an investment of $5000 - cheap electricity- on: November 15, 2015, 11:36:05 AM
S5 ROI's are better considering S7 prices in dollar terms but let's not forget we have a block halving process 8 months later. Miner companies either decrease their prices or wouldn't find any buyers for these equipments that can't even make ROI. I think investing in Bitcoin itself is more profitable right now (in 8 month plan).
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