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421  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin democratic? on: November 26, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
That is just one specific form "a" democracy can take. Just one form that does not define all possible forms.

You know they put those numbers in front of those definitions in dictionaries to show that a word can have multiple definitions.
Not all of them apply in all uses of the word.   Wink

Listen to yourself. You're telling me that Bitcoin is democratic, it just isn't democratic as we know what being democratic means in the real world.

It's like saying my bike is blue, it just isn't blue as we all see the color blue.

Can you see how little sense you make?

He makes zero sense. He thinks bitcoin is good, he thinks democracy is good, he sees that bitcoin does not conform to the definition of democracy as it is currently or historically understood, this produces anxiety in him... so his obvious coping strategy to deal with his anxiety is to dissociate from reality and pretend against all logic that the definition of democracy accommodates bitcoin. Oh, and insult and belittle and condescend you, because -- of course -- anyone speaking the uncomfortable truth obviously must be defamed and discredited to suppress that truth.

It is a standard Staazi tactic to eschew reality and logical sense if these features of humanity threaten their mythology.
422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin democratic? on: November 26, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
hazek, I’m not even going to argue with you since you are completely detached from the public and display no empathy. All you want to do is nitpick because you perceive democracy as BAD BAD BAD. Cry Is this some new kind of libertarian political correctness?

Well, too bad most people approve of democracy. They will feel alienated if you describe Bitcoin as NOT democratic. If you want to just stagnate with this current circlejerk, I guess that’s okay though.

What I and many other people think democratic describes is fairness, openness/transparency, equal rights, equal vote etc.

I can guarantee you that advertising Bitcoin as non-democratic is one of the worst marketing strategies ever.

You are the one in this thread who started insulting people and behaving with lack of empathy. I agree you should not discuss this topic with hazek here -- you are not qualified to lecture anyone on empathy, especially not hazek.
423  Economy / Economics / Re: Could pegged real economy investments assist in stabilizing the BTC economy? on: November 25, 2012, 11:30:14 PM
Hi Rudd-o

Thanks for sharing. We were more talking about investments like Depository receipts for equities in the real economy, that could be tradable within the bitcoin economy, rather than a currency peg like the hkdusd peg.

That would probably work much better.
424  Economy / Economics / Re: What is Money? on: November 25, 2012, 11:25:26 PM

How does the regression theorem apply to prison 'money', eg. cigarettes, booze, drugs (not sure what is used these days)?

Bitcoin is similar to prison money, in that the Western states have gradually outlawed a freely traded digital money product and implemented a type of fiscal prison planet arrangement, whereby digital transactions are monitored and scrutinised with all the power of the state apparatus and every citizen is a suspect, presumed guilty. bitcoin monetisation is somewhat a natural reaction of the 'prisoners' seeking to trade with more monetary freedom. TSR being the obvious example as supposedly one of the biggest uses of bitcoin.

Arguing about the where, hows and whys of bitcoin being used as money without recognising the circumstances of our time, that has given birth to bitcoin, is discounting the context as surely as discounting the context of prisoners being incarcerated as having nothing to do with them monetising cigarettes.

Very, very good insight.
425  Economy / Economics / Re: Could pegged real economy investments assist in stabilizing the BTC economy? on: November 25, 2012, 11:19:26 PM
This is how currency pegs invariably look like in practice:

http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/17/as-the-dollar-clamp-tightens-in-argentina-the-greenback-traded-at-6.31-pesos
426  Economy / Economics / Re: Thorium power, how is it going in the US? on: November 25, 2012, 10:10:40 PM
Waiwaiwait... WE HAVE FUSION REACTORS ALREADY?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.  I want a Mr. Fusion for my black Trans Am, NOW!!!  I won't be able to go to the future with it, but I would most definitely achieve Super Pursuit forrealz.
427  Economy / Economics / Re: Thorium power, how is it going in the US? on: November 25, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
Just provide a quote of some research scientist or a paper outlining your claim and it will be fine. You made the claim you have to provide the facts.

Classified

LOL
You're just making yourself look like an ass and displaying your own ignorance. The effect of temperature on fission rates isn't something new - it's was already well-understood physics by 1950.

Any college physics textbook should describe the phenomenon and give you the information and the background to understand it.

I second this.  A quick Googling of what JustusRanvier said confirms what he said about temperatures and fission rates.  ElectricMucus is becoming more destructive and assholeish -- unnecessarily so -- as the thread develops, which leads me to agree with others in this thread who have pointed out that ElectricMucus has some sort of anxiety problem related to being exposed to facts he dislikes.
428  Economy / Economics / Re: Thorium power, how is it going in the US? on: November 25, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
First of all the reactor couldn't operate at full power with no cooling for more than a very short period of time because of physics. High temperatures shut down the fission reaction.

That is bullshit.

I understand that you have some kind of anxiety problem and want to manage it by controlling the facts you are exposed to but you really should really find a more productive way to deal with it.

A therapist could help you out with the anxiety and a physics textbook could rectify the deficiencies in your understanding of how nuclear reactions work.

Excellent response.
429  Economy / Economics / Re: Thorium power, how is it going in the US? on: November 25, 2012, 09:53:42 PM
So given all that why did we use a uranium fuel cycle .... Simple, you can't build bombs with thorium.  The sad thing is the uranium legacy was for nothing.   After the DOD co-opted the DOE nuclear program and steered (forced ?) development away from Thorium and towards weapon friendly Uanium  it become obvious that power reactors would never be able to produce the quantity of weapons grade material necessary.  So we built dedicated "bomb reactors" optimized for the production of weapons grade plutonium.   The rest of the world copied the US model since the R&D, designs, and expertise already existed and Thorium being theoretical and untested got sidelined for 60 years.  

So, we don't have Thorium reactors today, because sociopathic closeted mass murderers saw no ability to use them to terrorize hundreds of millions of people with the threat of genocide.

Typical statist-religious bullshit.
430  Economy / Economics / Re: Thorium power, how is it going in the US? on: November 25, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Thoruim reactors however don't require many concessions to safety, like building a huge dome around them, because they can't explode/vent dangerously, or containing uranium carefully, because they don't contain any uranium and much of the earth is made of thorium so it's quite safe.

If they worked in the same way uranium nuclear reactors do there would be no point at all.

Facts are irrelevant (to bureaucrats who will punish you violently if you attempt to do stuff without their permission).  Thorium reactors could be safer than a kitten, but the bureaucrat (with his natural petty tyrant tendency) won't give a shit about that -- and the average moron will support the bureaucrat because he doesn't understand that thorium reactors are safe.
431  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain = Powerful Tool for Keynesian Monetary Policy on: November 25, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
You referred to me having some vague but wicked Keynesian plan. This is baseless speculation. My plans are explicit and public (see wiki). They are not Keynesian plans. Read them. Your speculations are completely unjustifiable. If you don't want to hear 'random remarks' about what my plans are, then do not spread false rumors.
First of all, look at the title of this thread, which you wrote yourself. Second of all, you made several comments in the past where you said that this or that person need to be forced to behave this or that way. You bitch all the time about "libertarians". This type of thinking permeates through your anti-libertarian pro-statist ramblings.

Even though I consider myself an anti-statist, I typically go at great lengths to not formulate my arguments in a way that their validity depends on the hatred of the state.

Many of your arguments, however, fail on this neutrality. Their validity pre-supposes that the activities of the state are economically beneficial or at least ethically permissible. Your very first sentence in this thread is

Recall that the purpose of money printing is to encourage or discourage spending.

This is keynesian pseudoscience, akin to the argument that the purpose of blood letting is to cure disease.

Similarly, your last paragraph in the original post

I am kind of confused why we still operate with dollars. Central bankers should start issuing dollars and euros this way. Or they could just adopt bitcoin. It would make their lives so much simpler.

indicates that you approve of this.

You (Peter) completely destroyed cunicula and his FUD here.  Well done.
432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google Takes Aim at Cable Companies on: November 25, 2012, 09:43:57 PM
Google?  Becoming a monopolist that provides provably good and desirable services?  By offering better stuff for less money?  Well, now that is a monopoly that I would be more than willing to patronize with my Bitcoins.

Unlike, of course, the monopoly of murder that governments maintain over their tax cattle.
433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: November 25, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
Now I know what reputable and unbiased sources the brainwashed are getting their notions that excess CO2 in the atmosphere is not a pollutant.

Well, FirstAscent, if you truly believe CO2 to be a pollutant, and you really want to help the environment, there's really only one thing you can do, isn't there?

Stop polluting.

Well, he can't, because <insert hypocritical reason here>.

Hehe.

I find it funny to see the anthropogenic global cooling, erm, warming, erm, climate change sycophants experience a shit fit / tantrum and start automatically blaming libertarianism for the fact that some people refuse to buy into their mythology.

"What?  YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN MY GOD AND MY ORIGINAL SIN?  DIE, SCUM!"  seems to be what they have literally said here.

Typical.
434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Story of Your Enslavement on: November 25, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xbp6umQT58A#t

A brief history of human enslavement - up to and including your own. It will make you feel like shit but you need to watch it.

The problem is, enslaved humanity is more efficient than any proposed free society. We have to face this fact (which is actually adverted in the video possibly unintentionally) head on.

Neither is such a hypothesis correct, nor did the video ever suggest it either.  The video just said that propaganda-based slavery was more efficient than chattel-based slavery -- that's it.  At no point in time did the video claim that slavery was more efficient than non-slavery.

Please, re-watch it and realize this.
435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: November 23, 2012, 08:14:14 PM
Oh, and you better get right on reading the 100,000 plus science papers on the subject so that you can make your informed decision about the consensus. Get on it, man! The scientists are out to get you! It's a big conspiracy!  

I'd just like to point out at this juncture that the scientific consensus was, at one point, that phlogiston caused and was released during fires.

Scientists can be wrong, even in great numbers. A wise man looks even at the consensus with skepticism.

Agreed. Trying to derail a conversation with "you should not question the scientific consensus" is not cool.
436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. CrowdFunding Bill Passes, CAPS Advisory Panel on: November 23, 2012, 07:26:38 PM
S.2190 the CROWDFUND Act passed in the Senate this past week.

This is good information to know.  Thank you!

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So give it nine months before the unwashed masses will be given the immense privilege of being able to invest $100 into someone else's project.

From the angle of your post, you seem to be purposing this information more toward IPOs than Kickstarter sites.  Investment generally, though, is not a privilege that's allotted to us in drips and drabs by people who purport to be our political representatives.

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There are many details though -- assuming they remain in the Act and become law.

That's a pretty big assumption.  It will probably remain in the Act, and the Act will get passed.  But people have forgotten these days that just because legislation is passed, it doesn't automatically become law.  Legislation is a paperwork term, a term of bureaucracy.  It refers to the process; are all the papers signed by the right parties?  dated correctly?  handed in on time?  Then it's legal.

But to also be law, it must be valid in law.  That means it must correctly adhere to the proper delegation of authority.  In the U.S., the delegation of authority goes from God -(into man's system of law)-> to the People -> to the political representatives we delegated.  With the Constitution, we delegated certain specific authorities to our representatives.  Anything not specifically delegated remains with the People, or with the various States.

That hasn't stopped any number of politicians drafting all manner of legislation and getting it passed, but it certainly doesn't make it law.  If we remembered that political authority doesn't arbitrarily flow out of a politician's pen, we wouldn't be so concerned when stuff like the blatantly unconstitutional NDAA passed last December for example, with 93 of 100 senators voting in favor of obvious treason.  Because we would all know it was void the moment it was penned, and never could be law.  Nobody would adhere to it as if it were, and we'd have quite a response to politicians who have the temerity to draft this stuff.  But for now, since the People have forgotten the nature of the political structure they built, politicians have been getting away with it with impunity.

On a more practical basis, an increase in legislation limiting crowdfunding will probably lead to a public increase in Kickstarter-like sites on the darknet.  Where the crowds can collectively fund anything they like.  Seems like the natural social response.

Stuff like these regulations by the state make my head want to explode. I cannot express in words how pissed I got when I read the OP.

hazek, I quoted your response because my point above speaks directly to it.

Im sure they will let you invest unimited funds into the government ie "political donations"

It shouldn't be that long before someone creates a Kickstarter/BitCoin for taking down corrupt politicians and CEOs.  Wouldn't take much; a crowdsourced Wiki [that requires people to cite their sources] that also creates a ChipIn-like BitCoin fund to pay the court costs and the attorneys' fees.  Any court-awarded damages could go directly back to the users who invested in that fund, in whatever proportion they invested.  People could actually profit from sorting out all the corruption among corporations and politicians.  I mean, we are in a target-rich environment there.

Never gonna work. They'll kill you first. Do you really think that Jones is going to let any of the Negroes in his plantation organize against him?
437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. CrowdFunding Bill on: November 23, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
And the CROWDFUND act has guaranteed that legal crowdfunding is a stillborn venture.

Tadaaaaa, the magic of government protectionism of existing schemes.
438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Private school is child slavery!!! on: November 23, 2012, 07:16:20 PM
It's not a ancap position to take to compel others to do anything, whenever there is a doubt.  And, honestly, there should be doubt on your part concerning other peoples' children.

Oh, but it is an AnCap position to compel others not to do something, for instance to not hit someone. That's called "defense," and it most certainly can be used third-party, especially when the person being defended is incapable of defending themselves against the aggressor. There is no doubt. A person hitting a kid is attacking a defenseless person.

Well said. Also, it IS an an cap position to compel certain people doing certain things -- it is perfectly compatible with an cap to compel, using proportional (up to deadly) violence even, a person who rapes, who kills, who robs, or who assaults other human beings (children included), to get said person to stop. Defense of others is just as ethically valid and just as defense of self.
439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: hm on: November 23, 2012, 08:39:42 AM
Ron Wyden was wrong -- the overwhelming majority of people either didn't give a shit or welcomed the dicta of their abusers with open arms.
440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Private school is child slavery!!! on: November 23, 2012, 08:37:39 AM
Considering that I do homeschool, I have heard of the Singaporean method. I wasn't impressed, myself.

You have to remove your capacity for your children to feel before they can learn properly. We are also #1 in the world for lack of emotions. When asked did you have an smile, laugh, feel angry or sad yesterday, only 36% of Singaporeans report yes. That is the lowest rate of emotion in the world. We even beat out the ex-Communist countries. Your children probably still don't know how to master their emotions. How do you expect them to learn if they are always getting distracted by emotional noise?


While the world will demand increasingly productive people the thought of humans as logic machines without feelings to interrupt that pursuit is majorly disturbing.

I'm not convinced mastering emotion is lacking emotion.

I'm not convinced either.  Mastering emotion doesn't mean squelching it.  From the remnants of what I can see quoted here, I imagine that cunticula obviously has suffered abuse at the hands of a pretty totalitarian system ("Singaporean" method) but he selectively blocks or doesn't remember the abuse.
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