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November 25, 2012, 04:26:03 PM |
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Google wants to monopolize ALL your data. For $120 per month you get... - a phone, a pad, a laptop, a DVR, a router, all wifi'ed - 100x faster internet - 200 HD channels, + Netflix - DVR records 8 shows at once - 2 terabytes of storage on DVR - no waiting all afternoon for a service call http://fiber.google.com/about/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiber.google.com%2Fimg%2Ffeatures%2Fwifi.jpg&t=665&c=mdls5ibBk54Jgg) In the future it will become increasingly expensive to keep your behavior out of the NSA's http://www.narus.com databases. That's a good thing. When people start being called into court for "safety" hearings based on behavioral computer models, perhaps they will finally tell the Government to piss off.
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November 25, 2012, 04:50:50 PM |
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Google wants to monopolize ALL your data. For $120 per month you get... - a phone, a pad, a laptop, a DVR, a router, all wifi'ed - 100x faster internet - 200 HD channels, + Netflix - DVR records 8 shows at once - 2 terabytes of storage on DVR - no waiting all afternoon for a service call http://fiber.google.com/about/In the future it will become increasingly expensive to keep your behavior out of the NSA's http://www.narus.com databases. That's a good thing. When people start being called into court for "safety" hearings based on behavioral computer models, perhaps they will finally tell the Government to piss off. So tell us something we don't know, if it is not Google then it is Dell or Apple followed by the weak Microsoft trying to control all content. See the fiber they are putting in in Kansas kind of has me scared because they will develop something that is direct competitor to the current, open and basically free internet. We will still have our old fashion internet but now we will have Google's internet which will be very fast and really provide for significantly different content that they will control the rules to. Could you imagine no HTML 5 just some Google script that is only allowed to work on their system and nothing else. Or some crazy board that checks your code before access to their web which will have a fee on top of the access fee. They are not going to lay down all this fiber along with the money and not charge. For once I am really glad that the feds are working on something that down the road we will be able to use and not allow Google a Monopoly the next type of internet. Granted it will take some time before we get access and Google's solution will be better but I am sure it will be free just like the first version. http://energy.gov/articles/three-doe-labs-now-connected-ultra-high-speed-network-10-times-faster-commercial-internet Oh and on an NSA note, who do you think is hosting email and other Cloud solutions for a large number of government agencies and has contracts in place with various branches of governmental, Google! Since AT&T rolled over like a trained dog during the 9/11 search what makes you think Google would not do the same and basically build the next NSA system? Look up Google’s government efforts to date, they are trying to be the next Microsoft and do even more then what Microsoft dreamed of. Google is trying to make the US IT world over in their vision and they keep giving away the stuff they don’t care about to get the really big contracts to control everything. Google is basically using the best practices of Apple and Microsoft against all the IT world. Basically I am saying Google is the devil, ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Happy holidays!
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Charlie Prime (OP)
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November 25, 2012, 07:42:38 PM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
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November 25, 2012, 07:47:08 PM |
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That's pretty dang cool, actually. I'd subscribe to such a service.
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Charlie Prime (OP)
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November 25, 2012, 08:57:55 PM |
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That's the idea. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heathmonthoney.com.au%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2FHoney%2Fhoney-pot.jpg&t=665&c=dKI97ZK_QZUang)
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November 25, 2012, 09:43:57 PM |
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Google? Becoming a monopolist that provides provably good and desirable services? By offering better stuff for less money? Well, now that is a monopoly that I would be more than willing to patronize with my Bitcoins.
Unlike, of course, the monopoly of murder that governments maintain over their tax cattle.
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November 26, 2012, 12:48:30 AM |
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Google wants to monopolize ALL your data. For $120 per month you get... - a phone, a pad, a laptop, a DVR, a router, all wifi'ed - 100x faster internet - 200 HD channels, + Netflix - DVR records 8 shows at once - 2 terabytes of storage on DVR - no waiting all afternoon for a service call http://fiber.google.com/about/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiber.google.com%2Fimg%2Ffeatures%2Fwifi.jpg&t=665&c=mdls5ibBk54Jgg) In the future it will become increasingly expensive to keep your behavior out of the NSA's http://www.narus.com databases. That's a good thing. When people start being called into court for "safety" hearings based on behavioral computer models, perhaps they will finally tell the Government to piss off. The part about "no waiting all afternoon for a service call" is definitely appealing. I had to almost wait two weeks for Comcast to come out and install new service for me.
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Charlie Prime (OP)
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November 26, 2012, 02:35:04 AM |
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Google? Becoming a monopolist that provides provably good and desirable services? No. Becoming a monopoly by government subsidy. All monopolies are government creations.
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November 26, 2012, 04:04:40 AM |
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Google? Becoming a monopolist that provides provably good and desirable services? No. Becoming a monopoly by government subsidy. All monopolies are government creations. Google isn't anyone's tool. They're one of the few online entities that actually defend freedom. Google has done so well because their brand taps into the desire for basic libery (aka I can find anything using google). As for owning all the data... I would imagine this pilot going well will push the other sleeping giant (that's Comcast) into action to start their own competing product. And in case you didn't know comcast owns the vast majority of the US fiber/coaxle backbone.
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November 26, 2012, 04:07:12 AM |
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China. North Korea.
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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HDSolar
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November 26, 2012, 02:07:48 PM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when.
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Charlie Prime (OP)
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November 26, 2012, 03:24:17 PM |
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Google isn't anyone's tool. They're one of the few online entities that actually defend freedom. You are woefully ill informed if you believe this. It's not really your fault. Most people believe whatever Public Relations and marketing campaigns corporations put out because it takes time and effort to examine the facts behind the facade, time and effort most people aren't willing to expend because, truth be told, they really don't care.
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November 26, 2012, 05:24:52 PM |
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I know Google aren't as great as their marketing claims but they at least aren't as bad as facebook which is basically just one big CIA database.
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November 26, 2012, 10:24:57 PM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when. Well, if you have a criminal secretive organization that, under "color of law", tells you "either you do as we tell you, or we'll start putting your people in cages / punishing them in other ways / destroying your business", you tend to comply. In such a case, your compliance can't be taken as evidence of immorality or evidence that you acted in bad faith.
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November 27, 2012, 12:22:39 AM |
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Google wants to monopolize ALL your data. For $120 per month you get... - a phone, a pad, a laptop, a DVR, a router, all wifi'ed - 100x faster internet - 200 HD channels, + Netflix - DVR records 8 shows at once - 2 terabytes of storage on DVR - no waiting all afternoon for a service call http://fiber.google.com/about/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiber.google.com%2Fimg%2Ffeatures%2Fwifi.jpg&t=665&c=mdls5ibBk54Jgg) Insane, to bad they aren't expanding past out of kansas! And they have no plans to do so either! From an email google sent me quite a few months ago inquiring on their service expanding east.
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November 27, 2012, 12:58:36 AM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when. Well, if you have a criminal secretive organization that, under "color of law", tells you "either you do as we tell you, or we'll start putting your people in cages / punishing them in other ways / destroying your business", you tend to comply. In such a case, your compliance can't be taken as evidence of immorality or evidence that you acted in bad faith. Exactly. The problem isn't that Google works with the NSA, it's that the NSA exists at all.
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November 27, 2012, 01:33:52 AM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when. Well, if you have a criminal secretive organization that, under "color of law", tells you "either you do as we tell you, or we'll start putting your people in cages / punishing them in other ways / destroying your business", you tend to comply. In such a case, your compliance can't be taken as evidence of immorality or evidence that you acted in bad faith. Exactly. The problem isn't that Google works with the NSA, it's that the NSA exists at all. Exactly. The problem isn't the people who must obey a Mafia -- the problem is the Mafia making threats.
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December 09, 2012, 04:13:40 AM |
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Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when. Well, if you have a criminal secretive organization that, under "color of law", tells you "either you do as we tell you, or we'll start putting your people in cages / punishing them in other ways / destroying your business", you tend to comply. In such a case, your compliance can't be taken as evidence of immorality or evidence that you acted in bad faith. Exactly. The problem isn't that Google works with the NSA, it's that the NSA exists at all. Exactly. The problem isn't the people who must obey a Mafia -- the problem is the Mafia making threats. Google has been the mafia from day 1. Look to see where the money came from and what companies set it up and brought it to power. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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