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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: July 20, 2017, 07:14:56 AM
Wow ibelinks sold out again, even after news of d3 and a5. Thought they take longer or not at all. Demand is there.
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 Update thread on: July 20, 2017, 06:32:15 AM
Innosilicon could have an edge over the d3 if they use a chip with a smaller process, eg if d3 chip is 22nm or 16nm, then innosilicon could just use a 16 or 14 or even less. The problem with that is it will cost more for them to make, but its better for data centres as its twice the performance in the same amount of space, the space is something data centres want, which would also explain them trying to target 100+ unit buyers only and not home miners. But with their past performance with late delivery and altered specs id say the d3 is a safer buy, if u get the chance. Who knows they could just attach 2 d3 clones together and call it 1 unit of 30gh, like they did with the a4. Their pic on their site is 1 unit, but that could just be something they made up on photoshop with a pretty yellow fan , however it doesnt show how long it is, could be almost 2 foot long instead of 2 d3 linked and attached together parallel. Bitmain always has the best chips.
423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Scaling Flowchart on: July 19, 2017, 11:35:33 AM
BIP148-UASF last step... "change of POW" ...   Roll Eyes

How can I buy "GPU manufactures" stock shares ?   Grin

Nvidia and amd on nasdaq better off shorting them soon particularly amd
424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Scaling Flowchart on: July 19, 2017, 10:09:28 AM
Here is another good flowchart

https://imgur.com/a/0nWwn
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What should be the plan after ETH mining dies ? on: July 19, 2017, 09:03:14 AM
Anything can replace eth for mining it just has to be very pumpable and have high rewards per block and offer something new and better then the rest. Something new would do the trick. a Zcash 2.0
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 19, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: July 19, 2017, 08:44:16 AM
Eth making its come back  Grin
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 19, 2017, 08:34:51 AM
Whats next? pandaminer x11, ebit x11, geass x11 , pinidea 10ghs things are gonna be screwed in 2 months.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEW Baikal Miner Giant Plus (2000MH X11) on: July 19, 2017, 08:32:51 AM
The Antminer D3 will own this @ ~$2500 for 15gh @1200 watts

Innosilican will own d3 - 30.2ghz 750w

http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html

Hollyyshiiitttt, very nice. at September??? It said with this speed we dont have to worry about increasing the difficulty for the next 2 years lol...

Pre order august , its only on the Chinese version of the website,
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEW Baikal Miner Giant Plus (2000MH X11) on: July 19, 2017, 08:27:31 AM
well check this out 15GH x11 miner for 2699$ at bitmain
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020170718203947438V537cuy7067F
Good bailkal sucks always sold out for anyone outside of China, now we got some real competition that blows their junk out of the water

I bet bitmain is reverse engineering other ppls hardware

There prob using their 16nm chips
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEW Baikal Miner Giant Plus (2000MH X11) on: July 19, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
The Antminer D3 will own this @ ~$2500 for 15gh @1200 watts

Innosilican will own d3 - 30.2ghz 750w

http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: July 19, 2017, 07:25:36 AM
Now d3s are out of date, check this out 30.2gh A5 Dash miner

http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - SOLD OUT on: July 19, 2017, 07:21:12 AM
Anyone who bought a d3 lookout you might be punked too  http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 19, 2017, 07:13:04 AM
Its true, but a chinese only secret so far, its not on the english version of their website.


http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 Update thread on: July 19, 2017, 06:55:43 AM
Check this out, spoke too soon..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2033006.0
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 19, 2017, 06:48:19 AM
Looks like Innosilicon just punked bitmain lol
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 Update thread on: July 19, 2017, 06:33:54 AM
update:

Expect miners EARLY AUGUST

UPGRADE KITS COMING SOON

I am with you but i want to know why there is no official announcement on ibelink.co

I am still with iBelink

The shipping date is on their website, upgrade kits are for owners of the ibelink product, they have offered the same upgrade service in the past - dualminer.com  http://www.dualminer.com/iBeLink-DM384M-Dash-and-X11-Miner_p_36.html  
    
 " The DM384M system we have delivered is a well thought out design. We will continue to use this structure for our next generation X11 ASIC miner. Existing customers will be able to perform a DIY (Do-it-Yourself) upgrade to bring your current DM384M miner to a state of the art X11 ASIC miner. We will ship you two types of PCB boards (8 hashing boards and 1 panel board per blade) to replace current ones. You will be able to reuse the PSU, cooling fans, heatsinks, miner casing and even the Raspberry Pi to reduce your mining costs. One advantage of using multiple hashing boards instead of one big board is that it allows you to replace possible faulty hashing boards with minimum extra cost. We will continue to improve the stability and usability of our software by adding more functions and features. If you have any suggestions, please let us know."

They've offered upgrade kits before, and im sure this time they will to satisfy the customer in time for the d3 release.

I feel you bro, you probably bought miners from this group buy.
This is how bad this  group buy was.

Dash price 2 months ago was 85 USD, if people had invested 7500 usd they paid for this miner in Dash back then you would have purchase 88.23 DASH. At today's rate those 88.23 Dash = 14068 USD.
With 14068 USD you could buy 5 (FIVE) 15ghs D3.
Stop trying to convince yourself that this iBelink buy was good.

People that purchased iBelink 2 months ago just gotta man up and accept they got PUNK'd by Bitmain.



Unlucky, Punked indeed, i wont disagree with that. didnt u try and buy 2 ibelinks but then canceled cause u had trust issues? bet u feel euphoric u turned down a successful groupbuy. , well at least their not vapourware or arent getting delivered. At least the group buy has a shipping date now. Sux to be wrong sometimes. Bet bitmain makes some feel better that they missed out.  

No one knew bitcoin would double and dash would almost triple, a lot of people who spent their coins on anything 3 months ago is kicking themselves too, especially if they spent 15k of it. 3 d3s for the price of 1 ibelink, sux true, but by the time anyone gets their d3 (if they can buy  them without selling out and having to wait months, batch after batch) then difficulty will really skyrocket when a major player builds them and ships them out like toasters, if they dont premine on em first. Firmware issues and such, delays, they even got a prototype? a picture of an l3+ doesnt cut it. They might take longer then people think to make, meanwhile a minimum of 3-4k will be mined off the cost of an ibelink by the time the first d3 batch hits, if its on time, and then another 3-4 weeks for next batch and so on. Why do you think d3s are so cheap and powerful? cause they know once they hit they will destroy the profits of not just every other brand of miner but also themselves, They arent some small workshop like a lot of these other producers are, the fact their cheap isnt good, the rarity will be gone.  Dash is already expensive and now bitmain joins the party, well the party will be over in a few months, whats made dash expensive is the fact that it is so hard to mine, huge hardware shortages, bitmain will end that party, profits will be much more modest. LTC was cheap when l3+ came out,  dash is already high, how much higher can it go especially with where its network hashrate will be in a few months with these cheap miners. Ibelinks might be short lived but they will own the hashrate for a good month or so and they will make ROI , with upgrade kits in the future, who else offers that. Ibelink was suppose to deliver to groupbuyers first, then advertise on their webpage for public selling, but what choice did they have, they must have found out about bitmains plans only at the last minute, which is likely, im sure bitmain doesnt advertise its plans to its competitors, so yet again not their fault, and especially not the groupbuys fault. At least their offering upgrades i think in a way to satisfy their customers, who else would do something like that?

None of this lack of luck is the groupbuys fault, despite how some seem to relish at this recent situation as a way of further put others down.

Plue One.

I guess at this point - having bitmain making an ASIC miner on your coin is a lot like being made fun of in the "Simpsons".  You've made it but do you control your future? 

Also, buying an ibelink isn't getting punked.  People are still going to make a profit. 

This might work out better then i thought, if people dont buy ibelink and giants and drx s because of bitmain releasing their unbuilt miner in 2-3 months then its more profit for ibelinks owners, much more.. even more if people accumulate coins now before the difficulty bomb. Even the new giant owners have a chance.. now their who everyone should feel for.
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 Update thread on: July 19, 2017, 06:10:03 AM
update:

Expect miners EARLY AUGUST

UPGRADE KITS COMING SOON

I am with you but i want to know why there is no official announcement on ibelink.co

I am still with iBelink

The shipping date is on their website, upgrade kits are for owners of the ibelink product, they have offered the same upgrade service in the past - dualminer.com  http://www.dualminer.com/iBeLink-DM384M-Dash-and-X11-Miner_p_36.html  
    
 " The DM384M system we have delivered is a well thought out design. We will continue to use this structure for our next generation X11 ASIC miner. Existing customers will be able to perform a DIY (Do-it-Yourself) upgrade to bring your current DM384M miner to a state of the art X11 ASIC miner. We will ship you two types of PCB boards (8 hashing boards and 1 panel board per blade) to replace current ones. You will be able to reuse the PSU, cooling fans, heatsinks, miner casing and even the Raspberry Pi to reduce your mining costs. One advantage of using multiple hashing boards instead of one big board is that it allows you to replace possible faulty hashing boards with minimum extra cost. We will continue to improve the stability and usability of our software by adding more functions and features. If you have any suggestions, please let us know."

They've offered upgrade kits before, and im sure this time they will to satisfy the customer in time for the d3 release.

I feel you bro, you probably bought miners from this group buy.
This is how bad this  group buy was.

Dash price 2 months ago was 85 USD, if people had invested 7500 usd they paid for this miner in Dash back then you would have purchase 88.23 DASH. At today's rate those 88.23 Dash = 14068 USD.
With 14068 USD you could buy 5 (FIVE) 15ghs D3.
Stop trying to convince yourself that this iBelink buy was good.

People that purchased iBelink 2 months ago just gotta man up and accept they got PUNK'd by Bitmain.



Unlucky, Punked indeed, i wont disagree with that. didnt u try and buy 2 ibelinks but then canceled cause u had trust issues? bet u feel euphoric u turned down a successful groupbuy. , well at least their not vapourware or arent getting delivered. At least the group buy has a shipping date now. Sux to be wrong sometimes. Bet bitmain makes some feel better that they missed out.  

No one knew bitcoin would double and dash would almost triple, a lot of people who spent their coins on anything 3 months ago is kicking themselves too, especially if they spent 15k of it. 3 d3s for the price of 1 ibelink, sux true, but by the time anyone gets their d3 (if they can buy  them without selling out and having to wait months, batch after batch) then difficulty will really skyrocket when a major player builds them and ships them out like toasters, if they dont premine on em first. Firmware issues and such, delays, they even got a prototype? a picture of an l3+ doesnt cut it. They might take longer then people think to make, meanwhile a minimum of 3-4k will be mined off the cost of an ibelink by the time the first d3 batch hits, if its on time, and then another 3-4 weeks for next batch and so on. Why do you think d3s are so cheap and powerful? cause they know once they hit they will destroy the profits of not just every other brand of miner but also themselves, They arent some small workshop like a lot of these other producers are, the fact their cheap isnt good, the rarity will be gone.  Dash is already expensive and now bitmain joins the party, well the party will be over in a few months, whats made dash expensive is the fact that it is so hard to mine, huge hardware shortages, bitmain will end that party, profits will be much more modest. LTC was cheap when l3+ came out,  dash is already high, how much higher can it go especially with where its network hashrate will be in a few months with these cheap miners. Ibelinks might be short lived but they will own the hashrate for a good month or so and they will make ROI , with upgrade kits in the future, who else offers that. Ibelink was suppose to deliver to groupbuyers first, then advertise on their webpage for public selling, but what choice did they have, they must have found out about bitmains plans only at the last minute, which is likely, im sure bitmain doesnt advertise its plans to its competitors, so yet again not their fault, and especially not the groupbuys fault. At least their offering upgrades i think in a way to satisfy their customers, who else would do something like that?

None of this lack of luck is the groupbuys fault, despite how some seem to relish at this recent situation as a way of further put others down.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BAIKAL - 5 STAR PRODUCT 1 STAR SERVICE - BAD BUSINESS PRACTISE on: July 19, 2017, 03:30:12 AM
HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  Wink

Let's see... Baikal New Giant 2GH/s ($7000) vs. Bitmain D3 15GH/s ($2699) Roll Eyes

No wonder why the new giants never advertised their price online, their advertised prices shouldn't be 7k now, and ibelinks arent selling out.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 Update thread on: July 19, 2017, 03:17:17 AM
update:

Expect miners EARLY AUGUST

UPGRADE KITS COMING SOON

This is whats good about ibelinks pc case design, its upgradable, try upgrading a tube miner and keeping warranty,  good luck with that, upgrade kits might help make up the difference between these and the d3s in price and performance. Ibelink isnt out of this race yet..

Yea keep dreaming..lol

I said they might help, depends on the new specs and cost of new boards.
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