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4201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 27, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
Smart way to gamble in my opinion is the self-control in the betting. We must limit the number of our bets and do not use the entire income just to gamble because it is very harmful. Just use a few percent of income to gamble. And if you run out you should have to stop and go back again when have income again.

And for every limitation you should just bet small amount always. Because if you will win with that small amount then that is going to be an achievement already. And if you will just lose with that small amount then that is just going to be a fine thing for you. Because you are gambling what you can afford to lose and that is smart.
Yes, by limiting amount of bets and bet in small amounts it will help us. We can play the game several times in gambling with small amounts, and we can also minimize amount of damages if it loses so it will not drain all of our money. That is the right way to play and be able to avoid gambling addiction.
Knowing our intention in gambling is vital, if it's for fun then good, for sure you will have to get the entertainment if you stay discipline. We know gambling is a risky game as some have been addicted and we are not exemption to that, so we have to be careful and play with a small amount of money we can afford to lose.
as most of the people are investing their money in gambling for only one purpose and that is to make money, therefore to me the primary purpose of gambling is to make money and there is not entertainment and fun in gambling if you are loosing money, you can enjoy gambling and can enterain it if you are making money otherwise if you are loosing money then there is not fun gambling.

Fun and entertainment is the primary purpose of gambling. People in the early ages only gambled just to pass the time. Businessmen found this as an excellent opportunity to profit from it and thus the rise of the casinos. Casinos started way before Las Vegas, the infamous gambling city, ever started. The main reason why casinos are still here is that they never lose! So why would you want to play against them if your chances of winning are quite lower than the casinos/house? Hence, just play for fun because that is its purpose since the start.

It's true. Why to challenge the house if we know the chances are at their side? There is no reason play a game greedy to make profit at all cost! The best way to gambling is to play just for fun, using low amounts of money, and you surely will have some chance to win, you won't become rich anyway. The best part of gambling stay with the businessmen, that found a way to earn money with this practical, they are making the real profit.
4202  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: November 27, 2016, 09:54:10 PM
Bitcoin is freedom, well, many people also said that when you have bitcoin, you have freedom, freedom of buying almost anything without moving into your seat, its only a click away. Maybe thats what are they trying to say. For me were not really free with bitcoin. Everyday we are focussed from our desktop or laptop to earn some of them and i think that is not what freedom is. This is just my opinion though. This is a job, not a freedom.

That is different things. Bitcoin is "freedom", but it doesn't mean you will earn a lot of BTCs for free.  Cheesy

It's the same logic of any kind of currency and jobs. You need to work to receive money. Easy tasks/jobs will surely pay less money (those jobs you are saying to be focus on desktop or laptop), more elaborated and skilled jobs will pay better rates. That is fair, nothing to complain about it.  Wink
4203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Explanation for the 710-750 drops? on: November 27, 2016, 09:49:50 PM
The price of bitcoin right now is just a normal fluctuate this is just like the same as last year it will continue to drop but not so much and i think we will experience of 690 or below.. then the price will go back to normal in december and january near end of the month the price will reduce again this is just my own analyze relying in old movement of the price before..

I think it's very stable and normal at this moment, we reach a good stable price really fast. And now, the goal is to reach to $1000 and stay stable on that price or a bit below, like $900 would be enough. BTC price was already more volatile than now. Even if the price is oscillating a bit more, there is nothing to worry, in the end the coin price will go up as we already saw many times ago.
4204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: November 27, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
I know 20 years from now people won't spend paper money anymore but crypto.
However I have a hard time believing that leaders will embrace bitcoin, I think they will rather have their own crypto.
In my opinion, twenty years is a short time for most people to stop using paper money. It takes more time for them to get to know and adapt to Bitcoin, because most people do not even know what per-to-per technology is, and even fewer people know about blockchain technologies.

That's why it's important that bitcoiners strive to disseminate to them information about Bitcoin and the importance of it in the world economy.

Yes, 20 years, two decades are a short time period for so big change in currency system. People currently with their 40-50 years will be alive 20 years from now, and I doubt all of them will want to change the paper money system for the total crypto-currency technology.

It will happen step by step, very slowly, it will be taught in the schools, in ads campaigns... People won't learn it so fast to abandone all the paper currency history and tradition.
4205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell us How You bet On Dice on: November 27, 2016, 09:25:05 PM
My strategy is using the 49.5% or anything close to but below 50%. Base bet is determined by the initial balance. Bet is increased by 100% on loss and back to base bet on win. You gotta be needing a spreadsheet to calculate the initial bet that would not wipe out your balance if you have a string of n loses. I usually set 45 as maximum losing streaks and decide how much would be my base bet for a given balance or how much should I deposit if I need to set a certain bet. It works.  I'm just not heavy on dice and usually walks away when I got 80 to 100 % profit.  We'll never know when the system will outsmart us.  Wink

Jewel
@thecryptochat.net


You play traditionally Martingale. Very high risk to lose all your money.

If you set a max loss 45 times, how much bankroll do you have and how much initial bet do you set?
4206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: November 27, 2016, 09:18:26 PM
These results re just pure luck, there s no way anyone ll see 1000 BTC lost by one single person again as it happened on Betking a few months ago. So these graphs represent PURE LUCK and nothing more.

gambling is always pure luck so investing in a gambling site (against the gamblers) is also pure luck. that is an obvious enough fact that everybody knows. but that doesn't mean you can not make profit in the long run. the only thing that you should do is to find a good site which is both popular and fair and then invest what you can afford to lose.
So there's no math in investing you mean? I guess not, we analyze that we have the edge so we invest, otherwise we will not invest only when it's base on luck and instead we gamble with our own money so when we win in can give good return.

No, gamblers always play until their last cent. Most people gambling will lose their money, we see all the time the house is making more profit than gamblers. If the players had a chance to make more profit than the casino, no one would like to be a casino owner. Only few lucky guys can make profit on casino and exit with more money than they came.

That is why it's better to invest on the casino bankroll, guaranteed profit (but not much anyway).
4207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 27, 2016, 09:05:49 PM
i'm a "the house always win" adopter.
i dont see it being profitable, yet, i do it as a hobby.

i do it for fun, not for profit. i'm sure there are a few successful gamblers even in the long term but definitely isn't easy.

If the house always win, make profit being at house's side, investing on their bankroll. It's not a lot of profit promises, but it's the only way to make profit on long term with gambling. You can play for fun and make some easy profit income at same time.  Smiley
4208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two things are certain: Bitcoin and Taxes on: November 27, 2016, 08:56:22 PM
This is something that shoul happen on the next years, legalize bitcoin would mean have to tax them, as long the countries dont make the tax too big, i dont believe it can damage directly anybody, as long our identity keep safe. Imagine some hacker acess the portal where we can make the payments and collect all adress and users bitcoin ammounts, we would be starting a war, and this is what scares me, even having a low ammount ot coins, i do like my privacy.
I agree with this. Taxation is sort of inevitable thing that is going to happen to btc if it is to be recognized by the governments and if it is to become a lot more popular than it is now. My guess is that it might slowly ruin the whole idea of btc, people might just start using another currency and we will have some kind of the war between taxations and new currencies to use till they aren't taxed. However, there are good things coming along with taxation. Ability to pay in the supermarkets or buy tickets using btc, for example.

It won't work. We already have to pay taxes for the miners (and sometimes it's expensive), if governments start taking more fees, our profit will decrease considerably and people won't want to use BTCs. The things must continue as it is now, paying taxes only for the miners.
4209  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MinerFarm withdrawal problem on: November 27, 2016, 08:43:18 PM
Site is a scam. I used their services dor free several months ago... It wasn't very profitable anyway, but one person could have a lot of accounts without problem. You could have 20 accounts and make x20 profit all day long... Maybe that is the reason the site closes or because that is was always their plan, to take some money from investors and run away.
4210  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which Bitcoin service is making profit? on: November 27, 2016, 08:30:16 PM
Gambling investment ?

AFAIK, bitcoin still consider as high risk currency so it means that having bitcoin and try to mulitply them has higher chance to loss rather than you're playing stock ( Forex )

This were the same view of mine as i have seen lot of Gambling company have come in Bitcoin and are even some good sites going very good and are making lot of money and even the investors in that sites are also earning nice returns from their invested sites.


I think that is the only option to make safe profit at this moment. But as many people are starting investing in casinos bankrolls, it will become useless for most investors soon. Only those sending big amounts will have a good profit.

Would be nice also to have a safe way to lend money and receive at least 2% profit over the amount weekly.
4211  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBox - Countdown - T_T on: November 27, 2016, 08:21:52 PM

FaucetBOX.com will stop working

Countdown

http://btc-up.blogspot.com/p/faucetbox-is-closing.html

 Cry

Why? Why will this happen, what is the next alternative after faucetbox?

They want to close their service, looks it's not being profitable for the owner. The alternative is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692263.0

Already in BETA phase, will be launched officially soon.
4212  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Gamefaucet Scam? on: November 27, 2016, 04:35:24 PM
hello guys
i want ask you that is gamefaucet is scam or not?


No it is not a scam what makes you think that ? It is a game faucet exactly as the name says. You aren't going to get rich there. When you level up high enough you make a fairish amount and I guess you could use it for altcoin investments or something other. They make their money through advertising and things, it is sustainable.

I've just found out about this site, can you actually earn a few dollars here or in order to earn you have no be a bigger nolifer than a vanilla wow player?

Maybe after a you level high enough and play often you can in a week.

To reach the highest level takes much time, and much effort from your side, but the reward is 75% bonus over every game you play. The best game in my opinion is the "going nuts", good profit, if you earn 1500 satoshis when playing this game, you will earn 2625 satoshis on highest level... And there are more games also.
4213  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: NEW BTC GAME - VIRTUALPUB - Official forum on: November 27, 2016, 04:29:13 PM
I'm glad to see that you got out of the hospital and started working on your new project.Personally I liked MinonGame much more because it was easier to play and earn satoshi,but your new game is pretty interesting although we should invest some time to start making profit.

I will try your game,and you can help me with some extra satoshi from MinionGame-I send you my BTC address on PM Wink

i will stay at hospital next 2 weeks, but finally have access to my webserver, so i can make some things Smiley
i will test on your BTC address the refunding script Smiley

I can confirm that I received my balance from MinionGame on VirtualPub account,admin has kept his word and it is great news,thanks tomos81 Wink

The game has potential and could be popular,earnings is low in start but with few upgrades things are improving and we can earn more satoshi.I hope I can reach 2 level in a reasonable period of time,20k satoshi may seem a little too much.

For now I try to sell as much beer,wine and whiskey to my customers,hope they leave me good tips Smiley

20K satoshis take some time to reach... As you have a faucet's rotator, you can get some referrals and they will help will with comission, as I see on the site,  10% earnings from referrals come to you. It's a good percentage.

But the tips, 4 hours bonus and surprise events can help too, I calculate 160 satoshis hourly profit, but it's surely more because the extras.
4214  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetHub.io - BETA! Prepare your bodies. on: November 27, 2016, 05:54:03 AM
I think there is a bug here, I clicked on TEMPLATES tab, so Template "base" and the things became a bit strange. And now the templates tab with those options of faucet colours top, bottom, left, right... don't appear. I'm clicking the tab icons, but they are a bit mad (almost of them).

You should ask the person who uploaded the template for you fix it

Sorry, it doesn't have relation with FaucetHub, it's a bug on the admin panel.

My faucet is already working with FaucetHub system, if anyone would like to test would be nice, you can earn some fake coins: http://cashoutfaucet.top/
4215  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetHub.io - BETA! Prepare your bodies. on: November 27, 2016, 05:22:47 AM
I think there is a bug here, I clicked on TEMPLATES tab, so Template "base" and the things became a bit strange. And now the templates tab with those options of faucet colours top, bottom, left, right... don't appear. I'm clicking the tab icons, but they are a bit mad (almost of them).

4216  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for Escrow on: November 27, 2016, 04:53:44 AM
Just make a thread asking for an Escrow on the Services section, much better. When I needed one, I created a thread there and in less than 1 minute someone offered his services for me.

Maybe here you already found one too in PM, but it's just my hint for you, next time create a thread there, even because you are looking for a service, and there is the "services" section.
4217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: November 27, 2016, 04:48:51 AM
We all can agree that if we buy bitcoin now, you will profit no matter what, because it will be more expensive in the future.
So why people are still being fools - and think that useless (faucet) or totally random dependent (gambling) ways of gathering BTC are good?
Just buy it already, use standard Bitcoin exchange, it is the best way!

The problem here is that most people don't have initial money to buy BTCs, they want to earn money because they don't have it, don't have jobs. For who already has a lot of money it's very easy to make profit with BTCs and increase the fortune, the real challenge here is to start from zero and reach to the top of world.  Wink
4218  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to convince my dad that Bitcoin is a trustful currency ? on: November 27, 2016, 04:47:13 AM
You cant convince someone even your dad to trust bitcoin if they are not interested to it. Maybe someday if bitcoin is really popular. Other people dont trust on anything that strange to them. Maybe give him some of it and let him experiece it. Maybe he'll change his mind. Also give him some idea how to use it.

It's true, some people are already with their minds closed to things they don't want to know about. Bitcoin is trustful and after some days looking and reading about, it's possible to reach to this conclusion, but many people still don't have interest on it, because their minds just follow what media says. If it's not on the television, it's not important for them.

Only time will reveal the facts about Bitcoin to many people around the world.
4219  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetHub.io - BETA! Prepare your bodies. on: November 27, 2016, 03:09:16 AM
Who needs help swapping old API to FH API?

Quote this message and I'll post a solution in the next 24 hours.

I'm working on something right now and can't waste much time. Got a few PMs asking for help

I need help, I'm very layman on it.

I'm on my cpanel, trying to find what to change. I use the default script of FaucetBox.
4220  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: NEW BTC GAME - VIRTUALPUB - Official forum on: November 27, 2016, 01:27:06 AM
Hey, help!  Smiley



Something good happened in my Pub, but I can't see what happened.

I'm on an eternal looping, solving captcha, clicking "Show Event", but the page just refresh!

Hi, F5 please, you catched the file right when i updated that Smiley
fixed now

Ok, earned 36 satoshis from event, lottery.  Smiley

Will this frequently happen or rarely?
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