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4241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon released RX 480. (Card is Released) on: July 19, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
I am getting my first 6 RX 480 in the next few days. Would you recommend i go solo mining or pool mining?

6x RX 480 can give you around $150 to 160 MH/s. It is too small to go to solo mining. It is better to use a pool.

What would be a decent size for solo mining?

3-4 gig imo
4242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 19, 2016, 05:07:25 PM
any tips on how to use nicehash with this miner ?

i.e Nicehash for eth and SIA or DCRED for the other coin
4243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 18, 2016, 11:10:06 PM
all of a sudden getting a ton of rejects on nano pool's SIA US port , DDOS ?
4244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
HE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.

Your answer regarding new miner was correct. But your statement that it was a hack, and ETH was stolen was NOT. In fact it was non-ethical use of the contract code as it was written by TheDAO, used in accordance with contract agreement that explicitly stated that the code is law (unlike bank service contracts etc that do not contain such statement and cannot be used as precedents).

So I quoted only related part of your message I disagreed (overquoting is a bad habit) and explained what was wrong with that part of the message, and why any Ethereum fork is a very bad thing since it makes a precedent that irreversible blockchain may be reversed if "necessary", even if it does not contain bugs in Ethereum platform. There were no any references in the reply because anyone interested can find them, and all I wrote were my personal thoughts and words. If your answer contained a quote from some other source, then a reference to that source should be nice to have as well. In that case there will be no questions to you, but to the author of that incorrect statement.

And that all was written by me because a lot, if not most, of pool miners use Claymore's one. If they believe that something really depends on their choice (to fork or not to fork), they at least should know what has really happened and make a right choice voting. Your statement gives no such knowledge, but tells without references that TheDAO was hacked (wrong - no code changes), ETH was stolen (wrong - use of contract code by one of many TheDAO token holders - means investors) by hackers (wrong - was no hack). And, BTW, TheDAO is NOT a part of Ethereum project, it is just one of thousand of projects based on Ethereum platform, just biggest one where curators happened to be Ethereum founders. But it seems that there is no any real choice if you are a pool miner (I explained why). So I personally switched to Ethereum fork due to all that mess.


your soapbox aside either way the hacker did something that was not in the spirit of the dao code he/she expolited a vunrebilty its like if you leave your window open even though you were warrned that you might get robbed yeah its your fault to a point but you cant tell me if you get robbed and the thief gets caught he would be immune from pro eaution and allowed to keep what he stole.

that in effect is what the anti forkers are proposing : to let the person who came though an open window and stole DAO tokens ( that did not belong to him) to be allowed to keep them.  If they allowed this it would be the end of etherum and they know it.

personally i say fux the hacker he probably made millions shorting the market anyways he cant be alowed to profit further.
4245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 14, 2016, 08:18:25 PM
I've been testing a lot lately with different wattman settings and so far, this is the best I can get. My main goal was to lower the power use as most as I can without impacting the hashrate too much and also lowering the heat and noise. So I just want to share what I have been using now to help others.

I have 6x XFX 480 4gb models. At first, I flashed them all to 8gb, but I flashed them all back to 4gb, due to the 4gb having 1750 memory clock instead of 2000 memory clock, which will lower power usage without impacting hashrate that much (probably due to better memory timing straps).



I just change state 7 to 900, voltage for gpu and memory to 800, power limit -30%, and change the fan speed and target temperature to my liking's.



Here is my GPU-Z showing my settings stuck even after flashing from a 4gb to 8gb and back to 4gb.



Here is me running Claymore 4.7 with ETH mining only and showing a stable hashrate of almost 24 mhs per card with GPU-Z graph.



Here is my whole rig power usage with 6x RX 480.


So far, I'm pretty happy with the results with the whole rig only needing about 670 watts at the wall.


If anyone else can figure out a way to lower power usage even further and still stay close to 24 mhs per card, please share. Thanks.

These are close to the best settings on all of bitcointalk (and I've tried the all, along with many variations).  Admittedly, I slightly tweaked this, and am doing 2100 on memory, with a bit more voltage and getting 25.5 per card in my farm.  I brought power consumption down 40% doing this - and my fans speeds are 50% less.

40% ?! im skeptical at this

All my cards were pulling 190w before, and they are +/-3 watts over/under 100w now - albeit they were running at 28Mh/s, but to take a 10% hit on hash rate was well worth the power savings.

See below:



I'll try this when i get home
4246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: LTCgear.com, the best scrypt/scrypt n/X11 cloud mining service, Not paying!!! on: July 13, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
what about the legal case against him? They definitly took action but in privat communication. I decided to not join the legal case and rather sold my account.
Do you know if the legal case is still ongoing?

I am not sure there even wa a legal case. All I know is that one guy did visit his house but no legal actions were taken.
Like most scammers Chris is still walking free.

Yeah i bet if that guy had it to do over again he would have DOXED the hell out of Beekeeper.

i'm glad they Litecoin forum got hacked , the admins there basically protected this clown for months some of them had his personal info and refused to release it someone probably got fed up and took the forum down.

Either way this guy got away with murder and basically ended cloud mining as we know it lol, which is actually a good thing imo
4247  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 13, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
What a disappointment. I'm not even tempted to buy at these prices.

Bitmain, there's lots of us waiting for your prices to make sense. Hurry up and find a reasonable price point.

To everyone else, stop paying these outrageous prices. Seriously. You're only enabling Bitmain to keep gouging.

They are not selling a ton of them.  I actually like this pricing and hope they do not budge much at all.

I think this is their best move keep the prices sky fucking high and slowly fill their hash nest with s-9's.

I would love to see batch 12 in august still be over 1700 usd.



lol you like the pricing becuase why ? they are selling hardware that may never ROI whats not to like haha

Because high prices like these make my batch 1 value stable.  I can list and sell them for 1900 right now as I type.

My hope is since bitmaintech is  monopoly wise  king that they stall sales via high price.  They have zero need to rush as of today.   Soooo  the wise guys that purchased batches 1 and 2  will be the winners.

Bitmaintech can make growth in difficulty fully stall..  They did it before:

Sep 17 2015   59,335,351,234   4.17%   424,738,988 GH/s
Sep 04 2015   56,957,648,455   4.98%   407,718,729 GH/s
Aug 22 2015   54,256,630,328   2.95%   388,384,088 GH/s
Aug 08 2015   52,699,842,409   0.81%   377,240,166 GH/s
Jul 25 2015   52,278,304,846   2.35%   374,222,683 GH/s
Jul 11 2015   51,076,366,303   3.39%   365,618,871 GH/s
Jun 28 2015   49,402,014,931   -0.58%   353,633,397 GH/s
Jun 14 2015   49,692,386,355   4.42%   355,711,957 GH/s
May 31 2015   47,589,591,154   -2.50%   340,659,563 GH/s
May 17 2015   48,807,487,245   2.44%   349,377,603 GH/s
May 03 2015   47,643,398,018   0.07%   341,044,727 GH/s
Apr 19 2015   47,610,564,513   -3.71%   340,809,696 GH/s
Apr 05 2015   49,446,390,688   5.84%   353,951,052 GH/s
Mar 22 2015   46,717,549,645   -1.50%   334,417,246 GH/s
Mar 08 2015   47,427,554,951   1.59%   339,499,662 GH/s
Feb 22 2015   46,684,376,317   5.01%   334,179,783 GH/s
Feb 09 2015   44,455,415,962   7.71%   318,224,263 GH/s
Jan 27 2015   41,272,873,895   -6.14%   295,442,739 GH/s
Jan 12 2015   43,971,662,056   8.20%   314,761,417 GH/s
Dec 30 2014   40,640,955,017   3.00%   290,919,288 GH/s
Dec 17 2014   39,457,671,307   -1.37%   282,449,013 GH/s
Dec 02 2014   40,007,470,271   -0.73%   286,384,627 GH/s
Nov 18 2014   40,300,030,328   1.76%   288,478,854 GH/s
Nov 05 2014   39,603,666,252   10.05%   283,494,086 GH/s
Oct 23 2014   35,985,640,265   2.81%   257,595,247 GH/s
Oct 09 2014   35,002,482,026   0.98%   250,557,526 GH/s
Sep 25 2014   34,661,425,924   16.20%     248,116,151 GH/s



Start at sept 25 2014 to Sep 16th 2015

about 360 days 


  we went from 34,661,425,924 to 56,957,648,455

if we do this growth from now until July 8 2017  I will do very well.

Since they are in control  it suits them to play this game exactly like that  as it will max their profit.

And it also maxes my profit since I purchased batch 1 and 2 before the ½ ing.

Nice numbers but do you really have that much faith in bitmain to keep the price high? all they care about is thier own profit , once the purchase rate drops to a number they are not happy with they will drop the price 30% like they did with the s7 and later on down to 50% , if anything the smart thing to do is sell yours now and keep your mined coins and then buy back when the price drops in a few weeks.

Thats what I'm waiting on.
4248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 13, 2016, 05:31:25 PM
I'd like to run pool+eth, solo+sia. Do I need to run the SIA gui on every rig to solo mine SIA?

anyone have some good settings to mine SIA only , I tried dcri 500 and it crashed my rig
Not really a good idea to mine SIA only. Best you go with dcri 50. Gives you 10% less hash rate but double SC hashrate.

Now the bigger problem I have and the reason I wish to solo SIA is because NANOPOOL has not been paying anything that I've mined....

when i crank dcri over 30 on my 480 and 290,  and nanos i seem to get a ton of rejects though should i be reducing ethi at the same time ?
4249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 13, 2016, 05:18:28 PM
I'd like to run pool+eth, solo+sia. Do I need to run the SIA gui on every rig to solo mine SIA?

anyone have some good settings to mine SIA only , I tried dcri 500 and it crashed my rig
4250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 13, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
I see,if at stock then it can be explaing but stock voltage is 1.13+ vddc,undervolting to 0.9 will decrease power consumption dramatically so u should not have more problems when undervolted...

Another problem is sometimes on a reboot wattman settings will reset to default if youre in a hurry or you have the miner set to auto start on reboot you cant always be guaranteed your settings will persist.

We really need a solid bios mod for these cards like the R9 Nanos.  I have six nano rigs that run for weeks with zero issues heavily undervolted , the Rx 480 needs this since the software is so flaky atm.
4251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 13, 2016, 03:54:24 PM
seems like Dual Mining doesn't work with 5 or more 480 cards as the system will reboot itself after a minute.
It's draining power more than mobo can supply even with powered USB riser.
I have a 1200w psu & after a few minutes, it's still crash with just 5 cards slotted in.

hmm this is a huge post, I seem to have killed two MSI gaming 5 motherboards trying to fit six cards dual mining on them.

ALL cards were hooked up USB powered risers, both boards worked fine with 5 cards and then i dicided to consolidate a few other new cards on these boards and poof dead Motherboard after a few reboots like you expereinced, Stupid me I should have realized something was off when the same rig that had worked fine since the 1st of July suddenly started having issues.  I've been dual mining DCR from the start so I dont think its an issue with SIA.

Word to the wise only use 5 cards max if with these new cards.

I have another six card rig i set up this morning dual mining i hope i dont come home to another dead board I only have one more spare.

Did u undervolt the RX480 or not? With core and mem @900 mv there is no way you killed motherboard because of RX480 ,i mean at 0.900 VDDC the card will take 70-80W total power,means 35-40-45 max from pci-e slot...

also DUAL mining uses 40 or so more watts of juice no matter what your undervolt is btw , remeber solo mining eth this was not an issue its when DUAL mining SIA/DCRED that this happend
4252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 13, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
seems like Dual Mining doesn't work with 5 or more 480 cards as the system will reboot itself after a minute.
It's draining power more than mobo can supply even with powered USB riser.
I have a 1200w psu & after a few minutes, it's still crash with just 5 cards slotted in.

hmm this is a huge post, I seem to have killed two MSI gaming 5 motherboards trying to fit six cards dual mining on them.

ALL cards were hooked up USB powered risers, both boards worked fine with 5 cards and then i dicided to consolidate a few other new cards on these boards and poof dead Motherboard after a few reboots like you expereinced, Stupid me I should have realized something was off when the same rig that had worked fine since the 1st of July suddenly started having issues.  I've been dual mining DCR from the start so I dont think its an issue with SIA.

Word to the wise only use 5 cards max if with these new cards.

I have another six card rig i set up this morning dual mining i hope i dont come home to another dead board I only have one more spare.

Did u undervolt the RX480 or not? With core and mem @900 mv there is no way you killed motherboard because of RX480 ,i mean at 0.900 VDDC the card will take 70-80W total power,means 35-40-45 max from pci-e slot...

I run alot of rigs when i set up a new one i dont undervolt anything i run it for a day or so at stock to make sure its stable then i tweak settings.
From what i understand though it does not mater if I undervolted in this case since these cards sometimes (even with the new beta drivers) will draw the full 75 watts from the PCI-E slot
4253  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: other uses for ASIC hardware? on: July 13, 2016, 03:44:05 PM
did anyone mention doorstop ?
4254  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 13, 2016, 03:42:07 PM
What a disappointment. I'm not even tempted to buy at these prices.

Bitmain, there's lots of us waiting for your prices to make sense. Hurry up and find a reasonable price point.

To everyone else, stop paying these outrageous prices. Seriously. You're only enabling Bitmain to keep gouging.

They are not selling a ton of them.  I actually like this pricing and hope they do not budge much at all.

I think this is their best move keep the prices sky fucking high and slowly fill their hash nest with s-9's.

I would love to see batch 12 in august still be over 1700 usd.



lol you like the pricing becuase why ? they are selling hardware that may never ROI whats not to like haha
4255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 13, 2016, 03:32:43 PM

I don't think it would matter, but I could be wrong. The only difference I think aftermarket cards has is just the heatsink/fans/cooling method (so better overclocking abilities). But with my underclock/undervolt settings, the reference cooler is already keeping it cool even in a hot garage style and I'm not trying to overclock.

I believe the reason why most people would want the aftermarket cards is just for better cooling and overclocking ability and overclocking=more power usage. So since my main goal is to reduce power usage and since I'm running on 110v, I can fit 2 rigs on 1 outlet without tripping the circuit breakers.

Our residential home has a 15amp circuit breaker, so if I overclock for maximum hashrate, it could run to around 1000 watts per rig. And if I place 2 rigs on 1 outlet, it would definitely trip the circuit breaker since it would be 2000+ watts.

that is the reason I buy cheap XFX R9 390 cards and under volt and under clock to get the best efficiency.

I heard that 390 is power hungry and is still using lots of power even when underlocked and undervolted (which many cards cannot even do? - is XFX an exception?  In ethos i did not find a way to undervolt my VTX3D 390...)... which settings do you use, and what is the power usage you are seeing per card/rig?

To remain on the rx480 topic... I managed to get down to 890W usage for a whole rig with 6 cards... getting 25MH per card, and my wattman settings are simple just -20% core clock (memory at 2000).
I tried boosting memory to 2250, where cards produce 27,5MH.... but this rises power usage for the whole rig to 1100W. This is 210W more (or 35W per card) which i think is too much (+ less stable, + have problems removing the heat)...

did you also reduce the memory voltage by 100 and the core voltage you need this to really increase power savings.
4256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best efficiency settings for Radeon RX 480 on: July 13, 2016, 03:31:20 PM
seems like Dual Mining doesn't work with 5 or more 480 cards as the system will reboot itself after a minute.
It's draining power more than mobo can supply even with powered USB riser.
I have a 1200w psu & after a few minutes, it's still crash with just 5 cards slotted in.

hmm this is a huge post, I seem to have killed two MSI gaming 5 motherboards trying to fit six cards dual mining on them.

ALL cards were hooked up USB powered risers, both boards worked fine with 5 cards and then i dicided to consolidate a few other new cards on these boards and poof dead Motherboard after a few reboots like you expereinced, Stupid me I should have realized something was off when the same rig that had worked fine since the 1st of July suddenly started having issues.  I've been dual mining DCR from the start so I dont think its an issue with SIA.

Word to the wise only use 5 cards max if with these new cards.

I have another six card rig i set up this morning dual mining i hope i dont come home to another dead board I only have one more spare.
4257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.0 (Windows/Linux) on: July 13, 2016, 01:00:06 AM
Can anybody share stable settings for R9 390 for dual mining ETH and SIA?

ETH on the level of ~30Mhs (overclocked) and the rest is for SIA

I've spent whole evening yesterday, thought that found it - and rig died in the middle of the night


lool and i though my 30 rigs was crazy lol
4258  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 11, 2016, 04:30:21 PM
But not 100%.  It is technically impossible.
you cannot stop difficult

lol, you guys are killing me please stop , gotta feel bad for that guy though 50% in earnings gone in a day and he did not see it coming bad deal
4259  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 11, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆
what's funny? everyone knows it is difficult to increase...

lol
4260  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 11, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.
poor bastard...
lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆
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