It amazes me how little of a sense of humor people have, my goodness.
And yes, it is condescending to Romney and his team. That man deserves no respect whatsoever. I do not feel remorse poking fun at tyrants.
Are you speaking as a professional and responsible spokesman of Bitinstant here... or as a prankster needing to vent?  |
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The question becomes: What will the heroes do if/when "they" make the heroes' tools illegal? Regardless of how Bitcoin is promoted or portrayed, positive or negative, it has the potential by itself to be quite disruptive to many "powers that be" and that alone is enough to consider the possibility of it being "illegal" in certain jurisdictions some day in the future.
If I may butt in once again... I will anyway.  Some define "heroism" not as following this or that arbitrary law or social custom ( or being lucky enough to die for ones country in a meaningless war abroad ), but in following ones heart, despite the consequences. And no, I don't find that contradictory to what I have already said, in case someone was going to ask me that... Indeed, but if you follow the quotes: We can be disruptive without breaking any laws in the process....
the discussion specifically mentioned not breaking laws. Hence my question. Fair enough... but my points are made within the larger context of Bitinstant's "stunt" or "joke" or whatever one would like to call it. I don't think it was a justified defence against some government action, if anyone tries to claim it as such. But if any unreasonable action 'would' be undertaken at some point then I wouldn't cry out against any reasonable defensive action... which if it was against the government would perhaps be illegal by definition. I agree with much of what you have said on points like this... it's just when it gets into preemptive activism, or sensational marketing, and the like, where I find I am in disagreement, with the views themselves, regardless of who holds them, or not. |
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Whether you personally condone it or not is largely irrelevant.
It felt as though you were putting words in my mouth, which is why I clarified. Don't shoot the messenger!  I agree that we should embrace positive aspects of human nature. I am glad you take it that way. I try to avoid attacking personalities and try to stick to the ideas themselves. I apologize if I sometimes fall short of that goal, or am lacking in clarity. |
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The question becomes: What will the heroes do if/when "they" make the heroes' tools illegal? Regardless of how Bitcoin is promoted or portrayed, positive or negative, it has the potential by itself to be quite disruptive to many "powers that be" and that alone is enough to consider the possibility of it being "illegal" in certain jurisdictions some day in the future.
If I may butt in once again... I will anyway. Some define "heroism" not as following this or that arbitrary law or social custom ( or being lucky enough to die for ones country in a meaningless war abroad ), but in following ones heart, despite the consequences. And no, I don't find that contradictory to what I have already said, in case someone was going to ask me that... |
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I never said I condoned such things (if that's what your first paragraph was trying to imply). I was simply pointing out human nature, from my experiences (I've never seen a church bake sale tie up four otherwise perfectly functioning lanes of a major highway for hours at a time). So...  backatchya. Whether you personally condone it or not is largely irrelevant. The point, I feel, still stands. One can exploit, the lower and weaker aspects of, human nature... fleece the sheep... for a quick buck... instant gratification... etc. or one can try to encourage and inspire the more positive aspects of it. I like to think Satoshi's dream, or vision or whatever one would like to call it, is an example of the latter. One is harder to do than the other but I would suggest more rewarding, for all, in the long run. |
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Phinnaeus Gage, this is actually a very serious topic you are bringing up here. Yep indeed it seems Bitcoin is riding one wave of negative news after another. I also have stats of online article popularity and I will tell you that http://bitcoinmagazine.net/bitfloor-hacked-250000-missing/ this one is the most read article we ever had (counting by hits since we've started the website). On the second place is http://bitcoinmagazine.net/the-silk-road-report/ . Trust me, I would prefer it to have more positive news and articles. Unfortunately, it is not up to the mirror what it shows. It seems that embracing negativity and riding "there is no such thing as bad publicity" bandwagon is an obvious choice at this stage. I am not convinced that such "gray" PR necessarily will have long term negative consequences. Church bake sales rarely cause as much rubbernecking as fatal traffic accidents. Yes! Lets stage a fatal traffic accident as a way to promote bitcoin! We could put bitcoin logos on the dead bodies. That will be sure to bring a lot of positive attention and users eager to embrace this new technology that will improve the way we do business and live our lives the way we would like. And if anyone offers any criticism or feedback we won't be grateful for it but rather arrogantly dismiss them as children ( despite the fact that many of them are much older and have been in the world of business for much longer than us marketing geniuses ). Yep kids that how the pros do it these days! /edit And if you go to a church bake sale maybe you might learn a little about genuine and passionate community building and involvement. It may be slow but it often deep and lasting... rather than a flash in the pan which comes from gimmickry and the like. |
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What specific technology would you rather we use?
... 4) provide a way of obtaining sincere ledger / audit log for the transactions with multiple timestamps: 4a) true time when first seen on the p2p net 4b) true time when first seen in a block 4c) block time when seen in a block 4d) true time when some block caused a reorg and un-confirmed the transaction 4e) true time when other block reconfirmed the transaction 4f) block time when reconfirmed 4g) etc.. for each subsequent chain reorganization ... In summary: the above isn't a "patch" or "git pull request" that can be submitted. This is a change of a mindset that would need to happen amongst the core development group. The GAAP isn't just a ruleset/certification that happens once and then you have it. It is an ongoing commitment. I like the sound of this. I was very surprised when I first found out that this wasn't already possible in the reference client. |
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I think BitInstant didn't do anything so terrible. Because everyone knows there never was a real extortion threat, BitInstant doesn't look bad for offering to help out in jest.
This. Bitinstant didn't do this for Romney - they did it for all the tens of thousands of people who are now researching Bitcoins after reading the article about the attempted extortion, and are wondering how to easily acquire Bitcoins for themselves. Read the latter portion of Erik's quote: Not only that, we’ll also show you how to safely use a Bitcoin wallet, back up and encrypt it, and make payments. We’ll even set you up with a Bitcoin app on your iPhone! You’ll be a Bitcoin expert in no time! He makes the business sound incredibly helpful to newbies. Which is exactly who will be reading the article, and exactly who will end up purchasing Bitcoins through Bitinstant because of it. Even though he is addressing Romney in the quote, he is really addressing all of the people who have just heard about Bitcoin for the first time. Oh, and does everyone realize that both presidential candidates now know full well what Bitcoin is? Yep, kids, watch how pros expertly do PR and learn from them. Ya, like spamming up the general discussion forum with your bitcoin magazine advertising, not very well veiled as actual discussion. You and Voorhees have a lot to learn about responsible advertising and promotion imo. |
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There's a new site: Bitcoiner.net. Pays out random amount based on current pool once a day. Thanks, I'll check it out. Is it your site? Do you anything about it? Yes, it's mine. And I don't really understand your second question  Ah okay. I meant to ask in the second question, do you 'know' anything about it ( in case you weren't the owner ). How often do you payout? Once or twice a day? Thanks Once a day, at 00:00 Server Time (GMT+2). Good to know. Thanks. |
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There's a new site: Bitcoiner.net. Pays out random amount based on current pool once a day. Added to the OP. |
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I have several online, offline, android wallets and I also have a wallet on my computer, the official app that I leave running all the time just as a network node, I figure downloading and passing on the block chain is beneficial to the network.
I recently opened up my ports on my router so its jumped from 9 connections to 30-40 connections and recently I've been getting several very small transactions, every other day or so of around 0.0001 to 0.0003?
Is this some sort of kickback from leaving bitcoin connected 24hrs a day? None of my online, offline or cellphone wallets are receiving these small transfers?
That's the current payout here: http://freebtc.com/edit. or close anyway... it varies somewhat Either you input your address there or someone else did it for you. |
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There's a new site: Bitcoiner.net. Pays out random amount based on current pool once a day. Thanks, I'll check it out. Is it your site? Do you anything about it? Yes, it's mine. And I don't really understand your second question Ah okay. I meant to ask in the second question, do you 'know' anything about it ( in case you weren't the owner ). How often do you payout? Once or twice a day? Thanks |
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There's a new site: Bitcoiner.net. Pays out random amount based on current pool once a day. Thanks, I'll check it out. Is it your site? Do you anything about it? |
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There is one. It's called The Sun.
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BitCrate: "Get out your Friday mallet and go break a crate already!"
But empty already.
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I don't quite know how to respond to this, being that it is a Bruce Wagner situation.
Knowing what most of us know about Bruce Wager, well, he is an opportunist.
If he was in fact using Bitfloor, then his claim definately has validity.
But, being the opportunist that he is, I think he may simply be using a known situation to procrastinate, or give him further excuses as to why he is unable to do something.
Bruce claims to be the most famous person in Bitcoin and a bitcoin expert, but if you have ever taken the time to listen to one of his interviews or watch his old bitcointv videos, it's quickly revealed that he is a complete idiot and knows far less than he would like to admit.
As I said, he is an opportunist and he will throw himself into the current mix of recent events just to become a part of them or to play a victim's role in it all.
Bruce Wagner can not be trusted.
~DonShrents
+1 File that police report. |
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I like the homage to Russian painter Kandinsky with that abstract background. |
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Damn I hate hammers!!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room? Get em up against the wall!  |
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