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4261  Other / Meta / Re: Moving to Cloudflare on: December 01, 2017, 02:36:18 PM
Well there's always room for competition but I'll have to check it out as well like you, but if that meets all our needs then great. Maybe theymos could donate some funds to the development of that instead.
4262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League Betting Pool v2.0 on: December 01, 2017, 12:05:17 PM
Hello. I would like to join this game, it seems very interesting with a lot of players! I have some bitcoin to the amount needed. What do I need to do?

Just wait. Save the bitcoin and we will start collecting the money in later this month so everybody pays roughly the same price due to fluctuations. I'll PM all proposed participants nearer the time.
4263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forum moderation policy on: December 01, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
The policy to not remove anything worked when the forum was small. Now that we have thousands of posts a day, we can't afford 50% of them being junk. The moderators are now instructed to be less tolerant of low-value posts.

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.
2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL"
3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.
4. No referral code spam
5. No NSFW content
First point is actually correct. I have seen my friends accounts  getting banned for posting irrelevant posts and over postings. For a newbie, there should be only 1 post a day. and the content should include from 50-100 words. Otherwise, there's a possibility of your account getting banned from signature campaign and from bitcointalk as well.

Allowing only one post is overkill. We have the Activity system in place to prevent abuse so you can't spam your way through ranks. Making a post meet some minimum character or word count would also be counter productive as people will just ramble on needlessly. Users will also find a way to cheat it as they have done with signature campaigns by adding obscured junk into their posts by changing the colour and font size etc.
4264  Other / Meta / Re: Relevant Post and Activity to Rank up! on: December 01, 2017, 11:24:00 AM
Moderators are deleting posts on Local Forums.
Is there any parameter in making a relevant post?


Posts and/or threads will be removed if they contribute very little or have been asked 100 times before in every possible combination. Don't post in unsubstantial threads and put some thought and effort into your posts and you should be fine.
4265  Other / Meta / Re: Moving to Cloudflare on: December 01, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
Have you thought about maybe creating your own ddos protection service as from your concerns it seems like there'd be a gap in the market for a trusted product? ... Could even use the money we get from any potential new donator ranks we implement to invest in it. Something to consider at least.
This is something that I would happily support with my BTC. Please consider this, theymos.

Same, as I'm sure many others would also. Most ICOs are just hollow get rich quick schemes run by greedy scammers but I'd happily support one for a valuable service created by reputable people and it could actually be one that makes a lot of money as a business which we could give back to investors as dividends. Maybe bitcointalk could create it's own coin and give that out for promoting the ICO and bonuses for helping out the forum as well.
4266  Other / Meta / Re: Post Allowance And How to make a Good Stable Profile In bitcointalk on: December 01, 2017, 11:15:40 AM
Op, can I ask why you joined this forum and why you're so concerned about being banned?

But in the meantime this is all good advice:

I want to know about The post allowance and need to know about how to make a good profile without banned.
Please Help me guys. any ideas ?

1. Improve your English (Grammar, Spelling & Punctuation) to a standard at which your posts can be understood by other English-speaking Bitcointalkers. Note that there are local boards, but English is the "universal" language of Bitcointalk.
2. Start posting in posts relevant to Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies: Signature Campaigns want to advertise their service/product to crypto-fans, not to Politicians/off-topic nerds. Try limiting your posts in Off-topic.
3. Start posting quality content: Instead of posting noob'ish crap, post quality. Look at my posts, or the posts of other quality Bitcointalkers. Signature Campaigns are becoming more strict and that's a good thing. It does mean that you must up your post quality to be able to join them though...
4. Avoid Mega-Threads: See a thread with hundreds of replies about something you can easily answer on, just like all the other newbies before you did? Avoid it! Mega-Threads are Post-Farms. Post-Farming is bad and you shouldn't do that. Therefore, avoid Mega-Threads.
5. Don't ever scam someone, advertise a scam, use alts to make more money, trade accounts, etc... Although those things are allowed, it will yield you negative feedback. And negative feedback means you will be excluded from many Signature Campaigns and you'll have a hard time finding one you can join.

And don't think you can just spam your way to a higher rank, as that won't work. You're going to end up in the SMAS blacklist or banned from Bitcointalk. You can gain only 14 activity per 2-week period anyways.
4267  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies mass starting new threads, mainly with useless topics on: December 01, 2017, 11:12:12 AM
None of the options listed.

I think most of them are idiots from Asia who've heard that you can come to bitcointalk and earn money through signature campaigns.

This. The news that you can easily earn money from this forum for merely posting crap or copy and pasting posts or content from elsewhere must be spreading like wildfire through South East Asia. Not only do they sign up with multiple accounts each but they then get their wives/children/cousins all involved, hence why the forum is such a shitshow of barely readable crap.

One of the rules lately has been to not post in spam megathreads, so a lot of these noobs create their own--for themselves AND for their alt accounts to post in. 

Even though there's stickies in Bitcoin Discussion and Off Topic prohibiting this, day after day we still get threads created like "do you prefer mountains or beaches" or "do you prefer sex and chocolate" (those are actual threads posted here).

There was a guy a couple of weeks ago who started a thread basically asking "Hey I started posting here, when is the bitcoin going to show up in my wallet??".

I've seen those sorts of threads numerous times. They obviously just read online somewhere that you can get paid to post here and think it's the forum that pays you to do so.

A lot of noobs are just trying to rank up as quickly as possible, because they know the higher-ranked their account is, the more money they'll earn.  Look in meta and you'll see how many noobs are extremely concerned about posts being deleted and how to become a Jr. member.  It's fucking ridiculous.  None of them can write proper English, and most of their posts say the same thing--extremely positive comments about how bitcoin is life-changing, it keeps increasing day-by-day (that's my favorite), and blah blah blah.

Yep. Sometimes you'll see users who's entire post history here is just posting in the same type of crap threads over and over again. "I heard about bitcoin because you can make profit for daily needs". "I like bitcoin because it helps me with my daily needs". "I heard about this forum because you can make money which helps with my daily needs". Seriously, just search "daily needs" in bitcoin discussion and you'll see what I mean.

Don't know about any of you, but I report posts that are shitposts.  I'll leave it to the mods to decide whether the posts get deleted or the user gets nuked.

Colossal one liner shitposters will be permabanned or nuked, the others given a temp ban as a warning.
4268  Other / Meta / Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?) on: December 01, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Thank you. I've been search this post in google.
BTW, how much minimal donate price?

Until now, you can donate 50 BTC or 10 BTC
For more informations take a look here https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

Not true. Those are the amounts you will need to donate for a vip or donator tag. You can donate any amount you wish via the link you posted.

You can now also purchase a 'copper' membership for a small fee from here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.msg24371150#msg24371150

Hopefully new ranks will be added in the future.
4269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2017, 06:09:15 PM


New thread, new game? Of course I'm in. Who knows, maybe that 20 pounds there will also be 200 at the end? Wink

Or it might be worth much less the way things are going haha. So far there's six people pledged. Hopefully we can get at least ten though 20 total would be great.

Hi Hilarious, Here4Trades replied to my pm saying that he's ok with doing escrow with you.  Please post the address where to send it to.  Thanks man.

I'll send one tomorrow.
4270  Other / Meta / Re: Password Recovery Broken? on: November 30, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
When trying to send an email to recover my password I am not receiving the email. I have multiple other friends reporting the same thing as well.

Multiple other friends or "friends". Are you sure your accounts - sorry, friends - haven't been hacked and had their email address changed? I suppose maybe there could be issue with the recent ddos attacks that's stopping the mails getting through. Also, some email providers automatically filter out mails from bitcointalk. I remember I didn't get them at all on one provider and on another they went straight into my junk folder so double check there.
4271  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: November 30, 2017, 06:00:29 PM
If this is not the solid rock rules, then where is the real list?
Could you please reference to it if available? and if none available, why not make this one the main rules for the forum? Smiley

This is the only list. There previously wasn't really a definitive list of rules and this one has evolved over time with staff and community input. The previous admin didn't seem to want to set rules in stone because people would then try find loopholes and bend them to get out of any action taken against them on technicalities, hence why we created this "unofficial" list. I agree we should probably remove the unofficial from the title though.
Is there a chance maybe one of the Forum moderator to take a look at the list and confirm it as the list of Rules?

hilariousetc is Global Moderator hilariousandco's 2nd account. So, there you have it.

This, and if you actually bother to read the first post of this thread you will see the list was created by mprep who is also a Global mod. Also, not sure why you think a thread would be stickied and not removed if it wasn't all legitimate  Roll Eyes.
4272  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: November 30, 2017, 05:57:39 PM
maybe eliminating the title and coins under the name could potentially avoid this perception issue while still providing the functionality. Provide the paid option to allow lower restrictions, fine, but is there a need to add the rank to every post, PM, etc. that the account does?
People like to be recognized, and the special title is essentially a recognition that a small amount of money has been donated.  

Well this is my issue... is this "fee" supposed to be for recognition, or like theymos stated, is it supposed to be just for enabling a newbie to post images and lift some restrictions?  theymos stated this was not supposed to be recognition of a donation.



I'm not sure what recognition being a copper member gets you. The title sounds pretty shitty and the benefits are pretty crappy as well (though they're not meant to be anything other than a way for Newbs to whitelist themselves) and anyone who thinks othewrwise is probably a little foolish or naive. However, the (potential) higher donator ranks such as Silver/Gold/Platinum (if they ever come) will be more 'prestigious' I guess.

How hilariousandco have gold membership as I can't see it there?

I thought the same but it turns out to be a custom title. As a Global Moderator, I think he can use any title he wishes. I asked above:

I just did it as a bit of a joke because I knew it would pique people's interest and get them excited (or worried if you're an account farmer).

I think a lot of us would be interested in this. I would certainly buy it regardless of what extra perks it gives just to show support for the forum. I was going to get the Copper one but I'm holding out to see what happens. It's just a question of persuading theymos that it is a good idea and enough people want it.


I think it would be beneficial for numerous reasons. Lots of people have seemed to express interest in donating to the forum if only the value was lower, so why not give them the option with a few perks to say thanks. If we allow users to say have a Senior-sized signature for Silver and Hero-sized one for Gold etc it will likely put a stop to people buying those accounts instead so it's win-win for everyone in my opinion. There's currently a huge black market for accounts and people are sadly making a business out of shitposting farming and - even worse - hacking accounts so why not give the people what they want and take away money from account farmers and hackers in the process.
4273  Other / Meta / Re: Can We Change Some Policies? on: November 30, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
Op, your suggestion wouldn't work as people would just buy accounts to create their thread as many already do. I have previously suggested that we charge a fee to make your coin announcement here because it's currently far too easy for scammers to knock up a half-assed idea with nothing at all behind it other than the effort it took them to write up the thread. Charging a fee would at least sort the wheat from the chaff and you would also have to be willing to put some money behind your idea.

Take a look at the Announcement/Token board and you'll see 100's of new accounts starting new threads about new coins daily. Now 90% of these are either scams, or doubles. Can we implement a rule where you need to be a FULL member to post in the ANN section? This way all the scams are gone and filtered out. In order to have a new project you need to either be a full member or have a full member of this forum post your thread for you.



I would change the game here and implement the rule that anyone who is willing to annonce ICO on btt must be certified  by one of  reputable  companies  that measure the trust or scam of that ICO. The list of those companies might be approved by forum's olds. Very sad that worst type of scammers had occupied such reputable forum as btt. Community has to change all this.


Theymos has suggested someone actually do this. I think it would be worthwhile but next to zero ICOs would make it through if we had some sort of decent verification process (which I guess is a good thing).

Theymos' thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070397.msg20678014#msg20678014
4274  Other / Meta / Re: Moving to Cloudflare on: November 30, 2017, 08:20:29 AM
Have you thought about maybe creating your own ddos protection service as from your concerns it seems like there'd be a gap in the market for a trusted product? I have no idea how much it would cost to create or run something like this but I'm sure it would be a worthy project people could get behind and would make for a decent ICO. Could even use the money we get from any potential new donator ranks we implement to invest in it. Something to consider at least.
4275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2017, 08:14:12 AM
Congrats to Wendigo for winning bastard of the week.

Haha I like that title.

New thread, new game? Of course I'm in. Who knows, maybe that 20 pounds there will also be 200 at the end? Wink

Sweet. We could end up with some double winners on both tournaments. If anyone else is interested please state so and I'll put you down. Got to get as many players interested before the end of the year.
4276  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: November 30, 2017, 06:43:42 AM
Yes. I have seen the feedback system being abused. And exactly my point.
People who are new to this domain tend to trust and follow people on this forum. Such a system should be backed by some check to maintain integrity of the system. Or atleast in the instructions, make people aware or warn them that the trust system should be taken with a pinch of salt.  Grin

We can't be responsible for how others view the system. It's not a gold standard certification of trust; it's just a guide to help you make your mind up on who to trust or not, but nobody should be doing this blindly. Anyone can abuse or game the feedback system on any site even such ones like ebay and Amazon etc and they both do very little when someone leaves invalid feedback and this forum is no different, except the admin's are quite upfront that they rarely if ever get involved in disputes here.
4277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2017, 06:35:00 AM
Tonight and tomorrow we have nice games, so what you guys think?
Hard away game for UTD
Kind a easy game for Arsenal
Everton with new coach
Boring game against WBA and Newcastle
Tight match between B'mouth and Burnley
Goals at Leicester v Tottenham
Can C. Palace win again
3 points for Blues and Citizens but which correct score will be
and can Liverpool win without goal in their web???


Some very valid points to be made for todays game.

Yesterday's games results outlined below:
Tuesday's action saw Crystal Palace draw 0-0 with Brighton in the first M23 derby of the Premier League era, while Tottenham were shocked in a 2-1 defeat at Leicester.

Manchester United beat Watford 4-2 to avenge last season's 3-1 drubbing, while Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, Liverpool and league leaders Man City are all in action on Wednesday night.

Beauty goal by Vardy in the Leicester shocker last night. Up and over. Wink

Not to be a dick but this thread is just for those who have paid to play. If you want to play you can join in the v2 pool I told you about.

Aw yisss. Top score this week  Grin



You didn't seem to move up any places though  Grin. I wonder if anyone will hit a good winning streak of a few weeks and go straight to the top. Remember there's 400 potential points up for grabs every week.

Glad I managed to salvage 40 points from the games yesterday. I'm more confident about the weekend ones.
4278  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitstamp, coinbase, kraken are down - coincidence? on: November 30, 2017, 03:43:58 AM
They'll just be struggling under the weight of all the traffic brought in by the rapid price increase. Can you imagine how many new users are desperately trying to buy coins and older ones selling them as fast as they can? Bitcoin has been all over the media the past couple of days and these exchanges just struggle to keep running in hectic times.
4279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 29, 2017, 01:09:20 PM
Do you want to do escrow on the bet?  If hilariousandco doesn't agree let's look for one at the Services section of the forum.  What do you say?  As Bitcoin keeps rising and rising, I don't trust myself or you to keep on our word.

Hilarious, would you be willing to be our escrow?  It would really be appreciated.

Edit:  No offense intended on Here4Trades.  It's more for me than for him.

I can do if you wish.

I have started up a new thread for a 2.0 version of this one for any newcomers who want to join in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2484329.new#new

I will transfer £20 of bitcoin from Ziskinberg's money into the new pot and he can then play along in both. If anyone else wants to start afresh they can also join in both leagues as long as you pay the £20. Spread the word so we can drum up more interest for further leagues in the future.
4280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 29, 2017, 12:48:08 AM
Okay, i guess this 10 points, which everyone get is from Man Utd Cheesy

Yeah. Looks like most people did pretty shit and a lot only got ten points including me. StephCurry managed to get 60, the bastard. Ziskinberg also got 60 points. Lets see how far he manages to climb up the table.

Another reminder from me as the Week 14 of Premier league is tonight and tomorrow night so don't forget to place your bets. One week with 0 points now can result fatal after the final standings. This week I hope to get some good correct results as for correct scores they look not easy again.

It looks like a lot of people forgot to make their picks (or they did really shit haha).
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