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4281  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 10, 2016, 06:06:18 AM
Quote from: BobLawblaw
... How does gravity work in this model ? ...

There is no gravity, denser than air objects fall and less dense objects rise.
4282  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 10, 2016, 03:55:10 AM
"Not a fisheye" then why is the background 100% land, where is the ocean?, work it out lol read my sig

Because the photo was taken over land. No ocean visible from that perspective.

Can we at least agree that the n-body problem is hard science, if we are going to find any common ground to debate this ? Lets try to work backwards from there...
Look, gravity is a farse; dense objects fall and light objects rise, it's that simple. This implies the "n-body problem" is the problem of how many færies can fit on the head of a pin.

This is a ridiculous and nonsensical answer.

Now that I've addressed you're question you can address mine:
   A gyroscope with the following flywheel says Earth does not rotate,
      
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      Weight of brass disk alone (with shaft) :	112g 
      Brass disk diameter: 53mm
      Brass disk thickness: 12mm
  Q: How big or small does a gyroscope need to be i.e. flywheel diameter and material, to detect the Earth's 24 hour rotation as true or false beyond a reasonable margin of error

That's an absolutely minuscule gyroscope.

I would recommend the following for more reading, if you don't want to build a laser array.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

Beyond that, it would be impractical to build a disk-based gyro to measure the Earth's spin. It would need to be several kilometers in diameter.

So to answer my question you point to the Foucault pendulum, what a joke of a device. I specifically stated "Earth's 24 hour rotation", they (wiki) claim the Coriolis effect is the cause. The Coriolis force is a 23 hour 56 minuet cycle (a sidereal day); it's a fictitious force based on the motion of the stars above the Earth.

You've done nothing to prove my 112g flywheel can't be influenced by Earth's 24 hour rotation, your claim that it can't is insane! This gyroscope is proof the Earth is not moving unless you can show otherwise. So not only do you have to show my 112g flywheel can't be influenced by earth's rotation, you have to debunk the Airy's Failure experiment that empirically proves the Earth is stationary and the stars are in motion.

The Earth is a flat motionless plane, full stop.
4283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 10, 2016, 12:58:24 AM
...[clip]...
https://i.imgur.com/gg1qFOE.jpg <-- This is your proof the Earth is a ball? Have a nice day!

The photographer is using a fish-eye lens in that photo (do I really need to point that out for you ?!)

I noticed you avoided answering my question.

Can we at least agree that the n-body problem is hard science, if we are going to find any common ground to debate this ? Lets try to work backwards from there...


Look, gravity is a farse; dense objects fall and light objects rise, it's that simple. This implies the "n-body problem" is the problem of how many færies can fit on the head of a pin.

Now that I've addressed you're question you can address mine:

   A gyroscope with the following flywheel says Earth does not rotate,
     
Code:
      Weight of brass disk alone (with shaft) :	112g 
      Brass disk diameter: 53mm
      Brass disk thickness: 12mm

   Q: How big or small does a gyroscope need to be i.e. flywheel diameter and material, to detect the Earth's 24 hour rotation as true or false beyond a reasonable margin of error?

4284  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 09, 2016, 08:02:53 PM
...[clip]...



<-- This is your proof the Earth is a ball? Have a nice day!
4285  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2016, 05:22:29 PM
Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.
4286  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2016, 05:16:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

This proves nothing, other than the physical mechanics in the gyroscope are too small to be affected by the rotation of the Earth through space. Physics is working as intended.

The inertial frame is too small to be measured.
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A little bit esoteric, but I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect for further reading.

You're claiming Earth rotates but that it's a magical celestial rotation that doesn't effect gyroscopes? Go smoke another rock, I've provided hard evidence that there's no rotation.

No he is saying is that is that you cannot measure the rotation of the earth using small children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough instrument.

It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation in real time but that is something of an undertaking.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/oct/28/laser-gyroscope-measures-the-earths-wobble

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A ring laser uses two single-mode laser beams that propagate around a closed laser cavity in opposing directions. If a ring laser is rotating, the two opposing waves are slightly shifted in frequency and a beat interference pattern is observed, which is proportional to the rate of rotation...

Thanks to the sensitivity and stability of large ring laser gyroscope, the team were able to directly measure the combined effect of the Chandler and the annual wobble of the freely rotating Earth. Their measured data was in excellent agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method.



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... children's toy's. They are not a sensitive enough ...

That's a lot of bullshit, that was a precision crafted gyroscope.

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... It is possible to build a gyroscope that measures the rotation ...
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... A ring laser uses two single-mode laser beams ...

You're implying that solid state gyroscopes such as the ring laser are the only kind suitable for testing if the Earth rotates, that's also a lot of bullshit. The experiment you're showcasing is purportedly to measure some subtle variation in Earth's so-called rotation. This is overkill for the simple task of testing for the presence of rotation.

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... agreement with the independent measurements by using the astronomical method ...

Of course their bullshit scientific experiment (that no individual can afford to replicate) is in agreement with the "astronomical method", the stars are in motion above the Earth and Airy's Failure Experiment proves this beyond a reasonable doubt.
4287  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
... [clip]...

You're saying a gyroscope can't detect the Earth's rotation because it's too small? This is a load of bullshit, the Earth doesn't rotate and the gyroscope proves it.

Why is it bullshit ? Because you say so ? Might it be because of your failure to understand celestial mechanics ?

... [clip]...

You're claiming Earth rotates but that it's a magical celestial rotation that doesn't effect gyroscopes? Go smoke another rock, I've provided hard evidence that there's no rotation.
4288  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016

This proves nothing, other than the physical mechanics in the gyroscope are too small to be affected by the rotation of the Earth through space. Physics is working as intended.

The inertial frame is too small to be measured.

Read back a few pages and all your questions should be answered.
I don't think there's anything about flat earth knowledge that hasn't already been presented and discussed debunked in this thread.

Fixed that for you.

A little bit esoteric, but I recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect for further reading.

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In 1926, an ambitious ring interferometry experiment was set up by Albert Michelson and Henry Gale. The aim was to find out whether the rotation of the Earth has an effect on the propagation of light in the vicinity of the Earth. The Michelson–Gale–Pearson experiment was a very large ring interferometer, (a perimeter of 1.9 kilometer), large enough to detect the angular velocity of the Earth. The outcome of the experiment was that the angular velocity of the Earth as measured by astronomy was confirmed to within measuring accuracy. The ring interferometer of the Michelson-Gale experiment was not calibrated by comparison with an outside reference (which was not possible, because the setup was fixed to the Earth). From its design it could be deduced where the central interference fringe ought to be if there would be zero shift. The measured shift was 230 parts in 1000, with an accuracy of 5 parts in 1000. The predicted shift was 237 parts in 1000.[11]

You're saying a gyroscope can't detect the Earth's rotation because it's too small? This is a load of bullshit, the Earth doesn't rotate and the gyroscope proves it. The Airy's Failure experiment is peer reviewed and replicated and also proves the Earth doesn't rotate.


As for the Sagnac effect it proves the existence of the æther and the M&M experiment proves the Earth is motionless in this æther.

There you have it, three absolutely rock solid empirical proofs that the Earth does not rotate; gyroscopes,  Airy's Failure Experiment and the Michelson & Morley Experiment.

Some icing on top of that, the Sun would be overhead at midnight every ~180 days if the Earth rotated 360 degrees every 24 hours.
4289  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2016, 09:51:45 PM
You don't have to trust 3rd party information from the Operation Paperclip folks at NASA, there's experiments that you can do yourself!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzIh0FMEQM
Why Gyroscopes Proves the Flat Earth 2016
4290  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
You know who likes to ignore people ? It's other people that have their core-beliefs threatened, and their ego will not allow them to accept that they are wrong.

http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round

1. The Moon
2. Ships and the Horizon
3. Varying Star Constellations
4. Shadows and Sticks
5. Seeing Farther from Higher
6. Ride a Plane
7. Look at Other Planets
8. The Existence of Timezones
9. The Center of Gravity
10. Images from Space


I can't believe I actually have to post this stuff to rebuff the loons.



I believe I've already addressed these ten issues, here's a re-post:



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1. The Moon Over the Flat Earth

  • The Moon and the Sun in the sky at the same time during a lunar eclipse (this also proves the existence of a third celestial object; The Black Sun).
  • The wrong side of the Moon occulted during an eclipse.
  • The cooling effects of Moonlight prove it's not reflected sunlight.
  • The distance to the Moon as measured by a sextant using plane trigonometry is ~3k miles.
  • Stars are sometimes visible through the Moon.
  • Clouds are sometimes visible behind the Moon.
  • The NASA Moon landing is a proven hoax.

2. Ships and the Flat Horizon

  • When a ship disappears beyond the horizon it's due to perspective and having traveled past the vanishing point.

3. Seeing Stars

  • The north star Polaris is visible south of the equator as far as the tropic of Capricorn; impossible on a spherical Earth.
  • Airy's Failure experiment proves the Earth is stationary.
  • Polaris has not moved in thousands of years; proven by ancient Sun dials.

4. Sticks and Shadows Will Break their Skull and Bones

  • A sundial made from a stick that casts a shadow and used to determine solar time proves the heliocentric model is impossible by revealing the path of the Sun through the sky.
  • The example given by two sticks casting shadows à la Eratosthenes can be easily explained by a geocentric flat Earth.

5. You Can See Farther from Higher on a Flat Earth

  • You can see father from higher up due to perspective as the vanishing point distance is a function of elevation of the eye/camera from the ground.

6. Ride a Plane Over the Plane

  • An airplane can fly in a circle over the circular face of the flat Earth without stopping.
  • The windows in an airplane are curved and distort the image you see creating the illusion of a curved horizon.
  • Flight paths make no sense on a globe but make perfect sense on a flat Earth.
  • There's no GPS tracking of airplanes in the southern "hemisphere" proving GPS is actually Earth based.
  • Flight times don't jive with distances traveled in the southern "hemisphere".
  • Gyroscopic compasses on-board airplanes prove the Earth is flat.

7. Observation of Other Planets

  • Observation of planets shows them to be lights in the sky.
  • Close observation of planets by amateur astronomers with telescopic equipment reveals images that contradict those provided by NASA and the establishment, especially those of Venus.
  • Computer simulation of planetary orbits based on the heliocentric model results in chaos.

8. Flat Earth Time Zone

  • The Sun rises and sets due to perspective; emerging from and disappearing into the vanishing point at the horizon. This results in the various timezones during its circular orbit above the flat Earth.
  • If the Earth were a rotating sphere completing one revolution every 24 hours the Sun would be over head at midnight every ~180 days.

9. Density Not Gravity

  • An object that's denser than air will fall.
  • An object that's less dense than air will rise.

10. Images Not From Space

  • Images taken by amateurs with balloons all show a flat horizon that rises to eye/camera level and a Sun with a hotspot under it.
  • All NASA/establishment photos are taken at high altitude with a wide angle fisheye lens or are fake/CGI/composites.
  • Satellites and outer-space itself are a hoax; GPS is achieved via cell towers, satellite TV signals are bounced off the dome or are ground based and all international data is transmitted via undersea cables.



Popular Science <--- #REKT
4291  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2016, 11:44:15 AM
Since we're on a YouTube video posting frenzy, I've got one I'd like to link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BGp9atbw9Y

Absolute proof the Earth is motionless; six hours of uncut video of a universally mounted gyroscope. It does not move, not even a fraction of a degree.
4292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Carolina police chief "vows" to arrest anyone who dresses like a clown on: September 05, 2016, 07:36:16 PM

Nice try, but not everybody has bovine turds for brains, they can see the link is broken, meaning you just made the story up to raise your post count on Bitcointalk, in efforts to maintain e-fame.

Fixed the link.

"Demonstrators, unconnected to the Greenville case, dressed as clowns in Germany"
4293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Carolina police chief "vows" to arrest anyone who dresses like a clown on: September 05, 2016, 04:28:17 PM
Apparently this is what's going on in Germany right now!



Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/04/clowns-politely-terrorising-south-carolina-town-will-be-arrested/



edit:

Fixed link.
4294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are You a Mind-Controlled CIA Stooge? on: September 05, 2016, 04:15:04 PM
Do you smirk when you hear someone question the official stories of Orlando, San Bernardino, Paris or Nice? Do you feel superior to 2,500 architects and engineers, to firefighters, commercial and military pilots, physicists and chemists, and former high government officials who have raised doubts about 9/11? If so, you reflect the profile of a mind-controlled CIA stooge.




Do you laugh when somebody says the Earth is flat?
4295  Other / Off-topic / Re: Best UFO info sites? on: September 05, 2016, 03:11:52 AM
WWW DOT OUTER-SPACE IS A HOAX DOT COM.


See also,


WWW DOT THE EARTH IS COVERED BY A DOME DOT COM.


and,


WWW DOT UFOs AND ALIENS ARE AN NWO PSY-OP DOT COM.
4296  Other / Off-topic / New Beatles Album! on: September 05, 2016, 12:22:15 AM
Officially (wiki) it's labeled as a hoax, what do you think?


The Beatles - Everyday Chemistry (Full Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fitr0wfptho
4297  Other / Off-topic / Re: What kind of food is good for fat? on: September 04, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Pigs are great, they're a healthy and cheap source of fat! I fry all my foods in lard.
4298  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 04, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
There is much to quarrel and argue on this subject, but you guys have to understand that the laws of gravity has not been canceled. Moreover, they even religion recognizes the scientific work of many researchers. So you need to find common ground.


There's no common ground, their fascist goal is absolute slavery and mind control. This is a conspiracy by the 1% to suck your blood (mixed with vinegar) and bugger your children after torturing and murdering them. They've created a prison for your mind and as such your body follows; this psychological matrix has you hurtling through an empty vacuum millions of miles an hour in all directions on the surface of spinning ball.


Anybody who doesn't believe the overwhelming evidence the Earth is flat will never escape this global hell!
I wonder what is the end of the earth. How does something like the land ends. If the earth is flat, that is the beginning is the end. Or I do not understand.

Earth is a circular flat plane covered by a dome.
4299  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 04, 2016, 04:51:53 PM

Things fall because they are denser than the medium they're in just like lighter objects float because they're less dense. Gravity is made up bullshit that's only needed to prop up the bullshit heliocentric model. There is no outer-space it's all bullshit, satellites are bullshit the only thing that's up there are weather balloons.

Also yes, the Moon landings were made in a Hollywood basement.  

I would direct your attention to British scientist Henry Cavendish, who was the first to experimentally and reproducibly measure the force of gravity between two masses in the laboratory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

But I am not sure there is a point. Cavendish must have been part of the vast world conspiracy right? His results deliberately falsified to fool us all two hundred plus years later.








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Chriszar579 9 months ago
According to Wikipedia, Cavendish was able to measure a torsion force of 1.74E-7 Newtons due to the apparent gravitational attraction of the metal balls. The article then says that this is equivalent to the weight of a "large grain of sand (13mg)". When you do the actual calculation, however, you get  0.000000174/9.81 = 1.8E-8 kg or 0.018mg which is 722 times less than the large grain of sand.
I brought this up at a popular online Physics Forum and they agreed my calculations were correct. When I told them I didn’t believe it was possible to measure such a tiny force given the friction in the apparatus, and gave them a reference*,  the entire thread was removed due to “Unacceptable references or topics”. Believe it or not.
* http://milesmathis.com/caven.html
Source:
   "Why the Cavendish Experiment Is Ridiculous - Flat Earth"
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ-7kbaHUgM
4300  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 04, 2016, 04:22:48 PM
There is much to quarrel and argue on this subject, but you guys have to understand that the laws of gravity has not been canceled. Moreover, they even religion recognizes the scientific work of many researchers. So you need to find common ground.


There's no common ground, their fascist goal is absolute slavery and mind control. This is a conspiracy by the 1% to suck your blood (mixed with vinegar) and bugger your children after torturing and murdering them. They've created a prison for your mind and as such your body follows; this psychological matrix has you hurtling through an empty vacuum millions of miles an hour in all directions on the surface of spinning ball.


Anybody who doesn't believe the overwhelming evidence the Earth is flat will never escape this global hell!
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