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4301  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the best bitcoin casino? on: June 12, 2014, 05:51:41 PM
How can PD have the best Bitcoin casino, they only have one friggin' game?!!   Grin

Best dice game perhaps, but to be a casino you need multiple game types(slots, table games, dice, etc).

So many biased people, mostly PD sig posters upping their count.
4302  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Who the hell is still mining on GHash.IO? GTFO that pool already!!! on: June 12, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
Let the miners decide where they want to mine.

I understand the concerns and I have my own but interference is not good.

Interference is worse than regulation.

Miners should be able to decide where to mine, but make an educated logical decision when doing so, however.

It's not interference, it's awareness.  GHash.Io is a plague on this community and to the network.

They've already been caught double spending in 2013.  Google Ghash.io and Betcoin Dice and you'll see a ton of results.

Nothing good can come out of trusting those shady operators.
4303  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] Coin Craft ASIC Bitmine 1 - 1.2 TH/S on: June 12, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
4 BTC for starting bid for 1 TH/s?  You're not serious right?!!   

An example of realistic pricing, european seller that's a Senior member as well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648622.0

Gridseed A1 miner @1100 GH/s for $1500 or 2.4 BTC.

Welcome to reality, young seller!   Cheesy
4304  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: MinerTechnologies.com - 3 TH/S and 200MH/S ASM1 for sell / Cloud contracts. on: June 12, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
It's useless for people to want to develop a new ASIC.  Even if you have a good idea you have a bunch of broke dicks that will just tear apart any idea you have.  You all want a decentralized currency but in reality all you are doing is supporting China because that's the only products you want to buy. 

Bullshit.

If you actually have a product to sell, just produce the proof, people will be falling over themselves to buy it no matter where it is from.

Why can't they produce pictures and videos that prove what they say? Its not hard, they had the camera there, they had time enough to to take two crap videos that proved nothing.

None of this angst would pour down on them if they just do the minimum sensible things.

1. Full technical details
2. Good pictures of all internal and external features
3. Videos of real hashing hardware showing the machine booting up, hashing, cgminer/bfgminer screens, pool screens updating in real time etc.

Its not like its too much to ask, hell its in their interest to do it if they have a real product.

Unless they don't have anything and are trying to skim the gullible percentage. That's the only reason




I think they'll just go with this:

4. Let's not post any pertinent info, keep everything vague and shady, and let the NOOB profit come rolling in.

That one makes the most sense IMO

There cloud contracts seem legit.  There are a few users in service discussion posting the payouts.



With what physical mining equipment?  Does anyone have one of their miners in the wild that's been posted or reviewed yet?

Just like Piggyback mining, just because you receive payouts, doesn't mean you're a legitimate company.
4305  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: MinerTechnologies.com - 3 TH/S and 200MH/S ASM1 for sell / Cloud contracts. on: June 12, 2014, 05:05:16 PM
It's useless for people to want to develop a new ASIC.  Even if you have a good idea you have a bunch of broke dicks that will just tear apart any idea you have.  You all want a decentralized currency but in reality all you are doing is supporting China because that's the only products you want to buy. 

Bullshit.

If you actually have a product to sell, just produce the proof, people will be falling over themselves to buy it no matter where it is from.

Why can't they produce pictures and videos that prove what they say? Its not hard, they had the camera there, they had time enough to to take two crap videos that proved nothing.

None of this angst would pour down on them if they just do the minimum sensible things.

1. Full technical details
2. Good pictures of all internal and external features
3. Videos of real hashing hardware showing the machine booting up, hashing, cgminer/bfgminer screens, pool screens updating in real time etc.

Its not like its too much to ask, hell its in their interest to do it if they have a real product.

Unless they don't have anything and are trying to skim the gullible percentage. That's the only reason




I think they'll just go with this:

4. Let's not post any pertinent info, keep everything vague and shady, and let the NOOB profit come rolling in.

That one makes the most sense IMO
4306  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Never make a ROI on: June 12, 2014, 04:58:50 PM
For example I purchased my first Antminer S1 through Sushi's group buy in early February for 1.45BTC

I set it up and overclocked it to 200 GH/s and started mining on February 12th.

Using http://retrocalc.net/ I see I've roughly made 0.8 off that 1 Antminer S1(2.24 Total BTC mined).

I don't think making nearly $500 off of one miner(out of several I bought) is just barely making ROI, do you?  Another factor is I luckily have free electricity, so helps a great deal.

Now I've sold most of my Ants, but I've held onto Antminer #1, as that little guy is proof that you can ROI in this difficult environment.  He'll always have a place in my BTC heart.... Cry

I don't know if those numbers are correct, it's saying 200ghash would make .05 bitcoins a day in mid-february.  doesn't seem correct to me.

but sure doesn't hold a candle to buying a radeon 5830 for $100 from newegg in 2011 and paying it off in like 2 1/2 days

Yea, I'm late to the game(started late 2013) but I can assure you I was making around 0.04-0.05 Bitcoins in mid-February since difficulty was at 2.6 Billion

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

I wish I had mined in the GPU era, but oh well that boat has sailed.

You can be sure that the retrocalculator is pretty spot on as it pulls it's database from http://blockexplorer.com/q/nethash

Even with 1% variance due to pool luck or any outages, you can see I've made out with that single Ant.

Much much harder nowadays obviously with each difficulty increase, but not impossible as most would have you believe.  You have to pounce on the right hardware at the right price point.  If you aren't close to mining ROI, best to sell it right away for BTC to recoup losses and turn the sale into net profit.  Also, it doesn't hurt to have cheap or free electric!
4307  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: RockMiner $79 | Gridseed | Bitmain U2 Group Buy on: June 12, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Credit Card Processing has been fixed, sorry for the inconvenience!

We now have the RX-Box (we are calling it the crossbow... X-box sounds too close to a certain piece of IP owned by MS) available for sale!

All units will ship from us by July 1st or sooner, based on the dates given to us by Rockminer.
http://minersource.net/collections/frontpage/products/rockminer-crossbow-440-440gh-bitcoin-miner

Are you getting the RX-box (600 GH/s per module) miner?

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

Didn't see it on the minersource website yet.
4308  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Never make a ROI on: June 12, 2014, 04:32:34 PM
For example I purchased my first Antminer S1 through Sushi's group buy in early February for 1.45BTC

I set it up and overclocked it to 200 GH/s and started mining on February 12th.

Using http://retrocalc.net/ I see I've roughly made 0.8 off that 1 Antminer S1(2.24 Total BTC mined).

I don't think making nearly $500 off of one miner(out of several I bought) is just barely making ROI, do you?  Another factor is I luckily have free electricity, so helps a great deal.

Now I've sold most of my Ants, but I've held onto Antminer #1, as that little guy is proof that you can ROI in this difficult environment.  He'll always have a place in my BTC heart.... Cry
4309  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Who the hell is still mining on GHash.IO? GTFO that pool already!!! on: June 12, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
And just like that GHash.IO is at it again.  Up to 44% rather quickly today:

https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs


This madness must stop somehow, they're out of control... 
4310  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] 1TH Bitcoin Miner Mining Rig By ProRig Asic on: June 12, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
0.8001

OP, this auction is just way too long.  You should seriously consider ending it in a couple days, guaranteed action.
4311  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: June 12, 2014, 02:30:39 PM
Are we due for a Thursday update from Black Arrow today?

Eager to see where we're at or not at.
4312  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. WEEKLY PAYOUTS. on: June 12, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Miss what?  All I said it's time for Updown to post here once a week like he's been doing.  Show his face, say a few words of grace, mingle with us lowlifes. 

Never mentioned anything about weekly payments, I know it's monthly.  Catch up dude!   Tongue
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Time for Updown to make his weekly visit to quell all the pitchfork holders. Wink
I guess I misinterpreted that sentence. My bad!

No worries partna!   Cheesy

At this rate of mass exodus of members, you and I will be the only ones left advertising this campaign.

Okay with me!  More BTC's for us.    Cool
4313  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: ASIC Miner 1 Terrahash Coincraft A1 on: June 12, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
That's a ripoff price @ $2369.

Gridseed's A1 1100 GH/s miner is $1500.

Fellas, proceed with caution with this one.  And if you do spring for the ripoff price, use escrow only.
4314  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. WEEKLY PAYOUTS. on: June 12, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Time for Updown to make his weekly visit to quell all the pitchfork holders.   Wink

Seems like the ones rioting in the streets the loudest aren't even in this campaign.

Haters gonna hate.

That's probably because they got tired of waiting for UpDown to show up and left the campaign first, before going on to "riot in the streets". Tongue

Oh well, sorry for them.  I look forward to July 5th for my reward for being patient.   

Either that or crow pie and egg on my face!   Cool
4315  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. WEEKLY PAYOUTS. on: June 12, 2014, 02:11:23 PM
Time for Updown to make his weekly visit to quell all the pitchfork holders.   Wink

Seems like the ones rioting in the streets the loudest aren't even in this campaign.

Haters gonna hate.
It changes from weekly to monthly after 4 payments. This is the 5th payment, so the campaign has become monthly. How did you miss that? It has been said many times and it's even in the OP. Yes, the title of the topic is wrong, we known. UpDown.BT hasn't changed that yet. Next payment date is the 5th of July.

Miss what?  All I said it's time for Updown to post here once a week like he's been doing.  Show his face, say a few words of grace, mingle with us lowlifes.  

Never mentioned anything about weekly payments, I know it's monthly.  Catch up dude!   Tongue
4316  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. WEEKLY PAYOUTS. on: June 12, 2014, 02:03:30 PM
Time for Updown to make his weekly visit to quell all the pitchfork holders.   Wink

Seems like the ones rioting in the streets the loudest aren't even in this campaign.

Haters gonna hate.
4317  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Never make a ROI on: June 12, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
You can roi. I have and i'm no wizard.
I don't understand the miner price today though as they were cheaper, or the same price 2-3 weeks ago, and it is a later point in time. 
Companies just ripping people off from recent price increase right now.

Now anyone who is trying to mine alts with gpus these days, myself included, needs some wizard assistance cause were all fucked lol. 

You must be talking fiat ROI.  Fiat ROI just depends on timing - you buy the miner when BTC value is low, mine and hope BTC goes up to cover your cost.

BTC ROI is pretty much impossible with any ASIC.  I think the naysayers are talking about BTC ROI.

I have made over fiat return on antminers, and I am a week away from btc roi (technically the asics have made there btc roi price up, but I added in the cost of power and psus to be fair) in around 3 months.
-This assumes straight mining numbers (- power and psus), and if I held every btc mined, and sold them all this second.
A hell of allot of people used btc asics way before I ever did, and I do not see how they could not have gotten roi.   


May I ask which machines you purchased.   The only ASICs known to easily do BTC ROI have been the Avalon Batch 1 & 2 units and the initial KNC deliveries.  All the other miners are struggling to make BTC ROI including Bitmain S1 buyers as far as I can tell from forum posts.  Did you buy your eq secondhand/used?

Not true, every January through early March Antminer S1 owner has ROI'ed:

http://retrocalc.net/
4318  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 1000 Gh/s - Is it worth it? on: June 12, 2014, 01:10:26 PM
Looks like no new S2 group buys happening yet, but thought I'd share with you guys another Group Buy I stumbled upon.

The Gridseed A1 miner @1100 GH/s for $1500:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648622.0

If someone starts up a S2 group buy anytime soon, I'll put it here.


Chuck
4319  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: FREE Electricity Monitoring on: June 12, 2014, 12:50:40 PM
You should really consider relabeling your Subject line:

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FREE Electricity Monitoring AFTER $200 purchase
4320  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Starting Mining (Suggestions please?) on: June 12, 2014, 12:48:34 PM
First suggestion...use a better calculator!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator


https://tradeblock.com/mining/


Second suggestion...don't bother starting!  Home miner gone by the dodo.  You need several TH/s to even consider making a profit.
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