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4321  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [SCAM] Foxminers? on: April 28, 2017, 11:27:43 PM
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Yous are Waybacked for Posterity Wink
Looks like the Wayback has a record of them back to 2014. Hmm...
http://web.archive.org/web/20140417134402/http://foxminer.com:80/product-category/sha-256-bitcoin-mining-hardware/
4322  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [SCAM] Foxminers? on: April 28, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Hmm. Th article in Bitcoinist about the Foxminers scam has gone a-missing... http://bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

Did anyone grab a Wayback of the page?

edit: damn it. Just looked and not archived. Crap.
Grabbing ones of TheMerkle articles before they possibly disappear as well.
Got them.
Both  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231520/https://themerkle.com?s=Foxminers

Full 1st article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231713/https://themerkle.com/cryptocurrency-mining-hardware-scam-education-foxminers/

Full 2nd article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231238/https://themerkle.com/how-to-expose-a-bitcoin-mining-scam/
4323  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 10:56:50 PM
re: removing the epoxy
Your mention of scraping got me thinking. Not heat - use canned cold-spray or LN2 if ya got it. Make brittle and should chip off nicely. Epoxies made to take heat usually do not like deep cold and embrittle easily, comes with the turf of what is intended for. Hmm....
4324  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 10:46:16 PM
@Bitmain, would you guys be willing to offer an out of warranty repair service for this dead temp sensor chip issue? Even if it costs us $50 it would still be better than a dead ~$300 blade.
If in North America talk to BitmainWarranty in Colorado about it. Also have several locations in other parts of the world as well. https://bitmainwarranty.com

From a power electronics design view, having a temp sensor on the die is the best and most accurate thing to do. That said, with so many chips in these I wonder if there is way to just have the miner look at a different chip? Heck, all chips talk over a single serial bus so should just be a matter of reassigning which to take data from. Problem solved.

As for removing the chips... Check the s7 threads and things dealing with sidehacks 2Pac stick and upcoming Pod miners.

Assuming Bitmain did the same thing with the s9/T9 (looks like it) then fuggitaboutit. If ya know which chip to attack, maybe but it is a risky process worsened but another design point: They made damn sure it would be very hard for the heat sinks to get knocked off buy using a very tough thermal epoxy to bond the topside heatsink to the chip.

A heat gun to applied to the heatsink will soften it enough to pull it off. So far so good. Then you see that when assembled the epoxy has flowed around the outside of the chip itself and so far the normal solvents will not touch it.

Design plus for mechanics and increasing thermal contact area a bit. Con is near impossible to replace a chip without risking damage to the board.

edit: Just saw Fanatic's post above ^^ Bet reflowing the new chip on is fun with the fine lead pitch...
Cool but still would rather sent to CO. $14.95 to ship them a board and that is with it insured for $450 in case it takes a wander.
4325  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
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Want to apologize about this being off topic?
Nope.
Ignore now active.
4326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 08:38:55 PM
How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  
"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?
It is the price that BITMAIN gives consumers that buy the S9/T9.   They list price in US$ and then they use 1245 when everywhere was trading $100 above that (and even BTC-e was above that) as their exchange rate for consumers to pay.
How do you think that does not concern the S9?
Ok, it relates to the s9. Fine. However this is the HARDWARE section for technical discussions about hardware. Pricing is not a hardware problem...
4327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 07:47:15 PM
How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  
"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?
4328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Will Bitmain Antminers S9 and T9 be obsolete if Segwit is launced ? on: April 28, 2017, 07:41:09 PM
I can close the post if I New how to?
Look at the lower-left corner at the bottom of the page. You can lock it there.
4329  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Dynamo-Miner for bikes possible? on: April 28, 2017, 01:59:35 PM
I still believe it is possible and i would be glad if someone in the word would build this and try it in his best way  Cheesy
In other words you don't want to bother trying to do it yourself and want someone else to put their time and effort into it...  Roll Eyes
4330  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [SCAM] Foxminers? on: April 28, 2017, 03:49:50 AM
To close out the night and make it easier for new eyes to get the gist of this thread right from the top of it, I tweaked my post #2. It now has some of the most irrefutable points immediately there and easy to catch.
4331  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A7 announced on: April 28, 2017, 02:39:10 AM
While yer here, I'm going to upgrade firmware tomorrow and see newer versions in the github.
https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/avalon7-docs/wiki/AvalonMiner-721-firmware-downloads
Any reason to NOT try using the even more recent 20170310 release vs the Dec 29 one?

 None that I know of. The CTO gets in to the office in a little bit. I will ask her when she gets here.
Got it. Thanks!
4332  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Why so few immersion cooled custom builds/Mods? on: April 28, 2017, 02:37:05 AM
Including the outdoor dry cooler? How many ton is it good for with say a desired miner fluid temp of 140F (60C) and a worst case hot outdoor temp of 110F (43.3C).

$30k is a decent ballpark, possibly sorta low.
4333  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A7 announced on: April 28, 2017, 02:27:41 AM
While yer here, I'm going to upgrade firmware tomorrow and see newer versions in the github.
https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/avalon7-docs/wiki/AvalonMiner-721-firmware-downloads
Any reason to NOT try using the even more recent 20170310 release vs the Dec 29 one?
4334  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 01:19:03 AM
oh, re:
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Typically when I want to reset the miner I just unplug it and replug it back in, and it normally hashes fine.

As in the AC power plug? Don't do that... As you may have noticed there can be a nice fat spark from the high-side DC caps charging up. Rather hard on the plug and socket pins.

If is a server supply there will be a DC-ON jumper or switch. On the Bitmain APW supplies it is the green jumper. Use that to switch the DC on and off.
4335  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: UPS recommendations for 2x APW3+ 1600w on: April 28, 2017, 12:52:25 AM
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It could still possibly cost you a few hours of hashing as not everybody is home all of the time when something goes wrong. It's not required but it's also a small hassle when it does happen. I just happen to use UPSes because I have em from servers and they help keep miners up for practically nothing in my scenario.
Exactly. Besides, when I got them I was making BTC hand over fist and since the now-defunct TigerDirect accepted BTC, well, was just the thing to do.

Now 1st place I look is Overstock.com 'cause they take BTC Smiley
4336  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: UPS recommendations for 2x APW3+ 1600w on: April 28, 2017, 12:49:38 AM
I have managed over 6-8000 Avalon6's in my time and never had an issue that required a UPS. Maybe the 7 series act different? I have had plenty of SD cards corrupt themselves in that time but that is just normal behavior with old RPi's and a hacked together OS. The fix for that is to just have a spare on hand if you dont want to take 3 minutes to reflash the SD card when that happens. Ill take the $4 fix over the hundreds of dollars a UPS would cost.
For the Avalons, ja. Not so easy with the Bitmain products. Still as I keep saying, for most operations UPS is overkill. In my case the reason for the always on-line UPS's at home was sag. Some summer days the nominal 230v went as low as 180v and of course the generator does not kick in until it goes below 178v. Can't adjust the trip point so got the Cyberpowers. They will supply the miners perfect 240v even with the line below 160v so no-mans-land dead-zone is covered.

Sidenote to that: Got the whole-house generator after the 2-week long blackout that hit Michigan, Ohio, and part of Ontario several years ago. Up until 2 years ago when a huge storm literally blew out the local substation and grid it was needed several times a year. After those repairs, power has been much better, last year worst sag was only down to 208 so very happy with the new grid lines they installed everywhere and outages have been rare Smiley

If is a mega-farm then my plan would be to have backup genset(s) yes but manually control changeover.
eg.
Power drops out, let miners go offline and remain powered down(network gear IS of course on a UPS).
Start generator if not automatic.
Contact power company.
If after a few min still no power - change over to generator
Start miners

When stable power returns:
shut down miners
Change over to Utility power
restart miners
Kill genset

Whole point there of course is to minimize how many times all those $&^#! miners of yours need to be restarted.
4337  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: April 28, 2017, 12:15:46 AM
<OT snip>
Anyways, I got a S9 related question. I notice sometimes when I reboot the S9 through it's firmware, it will restart and 1 board may not be hashing. Other times it reboots fine. I would say 50% of the time it reboots and one board is down. Why does this happen? Is there anything I can do to prevent this? Typically when I want to reset the miner I just unplug it and replug it back in, and it normally hashes fine.
Thanks
My theory is that it did not like the Vcore settings that Auto-tune came up with. Never seen a board read zero. Is the lil' red LED's on the hash board lit?

With the s9's I will sometimes see one board come up about 500GHs or more slower than the others, 1-2 soft boots and then it picks up speed and is happy again. Looking at the logs when happy the twitchy board is at a slightly higher Vcore than when unhappy.
4338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A7 announced on: April 27, 2017, 11:55:37 PM
Arrg. The 741 I have at work just got twitchy and has dropped to 6.4THs for the past hour vs its normal 8.2ish. So, I'll update the firmware tomorrow and see if takes care of this.

Any reason to NOT try using the even more recent 20170310 release vs the Dec 29 one?
4339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [SCAM] Foxminers? on: April 27, 2017, 11:27:10 PM
<snip>
You missed the THC Lab Cafe.
No, just usually don't care about ads. Love that GIF site tho bookmarked and gif saved.
Damn -- back feeling twitchy again so time hit a roach Nice having my MM Green card Smiley
4340  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [SCAM] Foxminers? on: April 27, 2017, 10:31:12 PM
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Oh that is just hilarious Cheesy
And the phone battery life will be just how many minutes? Even plugged into a good charger say, 2.1A, that gives 10.5w of power. Barely enough to run a single 2Pac stick from Sidehack @15GHs. Of course the phone itself will want some of that power as well.

Crap. There goes Physics getting in the way again... Tongue
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