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4321  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The price you will buy and sell btc? on: October 06, 2019, 05:50:43 AM
The price you like to buy the btc?  
And sell! ?

I think 7k I buy and sell 10k.

Right now going back to 7 is kinda difficult but 8k$ and sell once it reach to 13k$ is the safest play to risk. Though it will take some months before it can hit the target but it is very possible so the risk is not that high.

And if you will eye for more than 13k$ then you need to wait for like 8-12 months before you can hit your target for selling base on the market condition.

How can you be so sure that it can reach to $7,000 from here.  BTC at $8000 for the last few days and it can further pump to $9300 to $9500.

Also your 2nd analysis for the Bitcoin to reach again to $14,000  after 8 to 12 months is just out of the question Bitcoin might reach the target by the end of the December or on early January 2020, due to too many critical events like halving.
4322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title on: October 06, 2019, 05:29:46 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

The results were pretty much as expected. Derevyanchenko was an underdog and was never favorite. However it was still a close game and Gennadiy Golovkin had to work hard to win the title. All the boxing matches I have seen this, I can safely say that this was fight of the year.
4323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what is the difference between staking and mining??? on: October 06, 2019, 05:17:50 AM
i don't know for sure but if i m not mistaken mining is more expensive
No this isn't true. Mining cost way more depending on the coin that you are planning to stake at, some coins require even upmost $10k value of coins in minimum to be staked, there are some that are way cheaper but not all of them cheaper than starting a mining business.

Mining involves the extra cost like you will have to buy the hardware, the cost of electricity , equipment's and all such things.

Staking on the other hand is also expensive but you have to buy certain amount of coins and then stored permanently in your wallet and you get stakes for the storing the coins and be online.  The good thing about staking is that whenever you decide to quit you can just sell all the coins and get your amount back provided the value of the coin remains same or increased your buying price.
4324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Exchange platform are why ieos have gone quiet on: October 06, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
When ieo started with binance, it roused other exchanges to kickstart the same
But recent discovery tell us that exchange platform charge a lot to list ieo projects for ieo

And also some exchanges conduct ghost ieo and list token to drive in investors only to exit

If ico ieo sto and ito isn’t the way; how then can serious good projects conduct a crowdfunding to help their idea ??

We need to realize why the IEO ,ICO and other ways are failing ? Because all of them focus on getting the investments from the people and do not focus on the development. If a project team focus on the roadmap and deliver its key milestones right on time, the investors will come to them even if they are using ico , crowdfunding or private sales.
4325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aigar Network Crypto Community [Official] on: October 05, 2019, 10:48:52 AM
BTW to AGR SWAP has started!
Read the instructions in a new article https://medium.com/@aigarofficial/btw-to-agr-swap-has-started-8c9957008e84

You can trade AGR/BTC now!
https://bitexbook.com/en/trading/agrbtc

Where do we login to transfer our BTW tokens. I just checked http://bitwhite.org/ and it is down.
Also the wallet link https://wallet.bitwhite.org/#/login redirects to some "Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page" . Can you guide me how can I login to my bitwhite web wallet ?
4326  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Be careful of Bitcoins giveaways that are too good to be true on: October 05, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
It offers 2X of the amount of money you send in.

I can't believe that people fall in those scams. Have you ever seen in real life someone tell you "Transfer me some money in my bank account. I will transfer you back 2x."

Why would someone do this?
People are insane with bitcoin...

Bitcoin is not a tool to make people get rich quick. It is just a currency. It works as a currency.

Not only online, people scam by giving people offer to double their money in real life too.
I know people in my country who come up with such business and innocent people deposit local currency with them with the hope to get it double.
Online scamming is easier because the scammer identity remains hidden.
We should avoid any such mouth watering  offers and stop being greedy.
4327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice - A small mistake emptied my wallet. on: October 05, 2019, 06:12:24 AM
A small mistake on dice made my wallet get emptied. Only mistake is that I didn't added an additional zero to the bet amount. Instead of 0.00005 btc I mistakenly placed 0.0005 btc. Further on the consecutive bets went for a double the value. This all of the sudden emptied my wallet. I didn't watched the wallet until the bet amount in the tab turned zero.
-snip-
Well this is nothing to regret. This is gambling and shit like this does happen a lot. People do make such mistakes. You would have been more happy if had won the bet by mistake right?
You are also to be blamed too for this mistake. You are placing a bet using automated betting system and you didn't bother to check the settings? Think of the loss as a lesson for you and just move on.

Who knows that if you have a loss this money by mistake you would have continued played the  dice games and eventually lost it in few games.
Just chill out and  this is a big lesson for you that you need to double check the amount in gambling. 
Generally always have a close look at the wallet address and the amount before you press the send button for any crypto related transactions.
4328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 Rugby World Cup predictions on: October 05, 2019, 05:14:31 AM
This tournament is getting boring now. We are having too many one sided matches, back to back.

I do not think so that the tournament is boring. Which country are you representing in this world cup ? If your country is winning you must be enjoying it.  Also you can see the jam pack stadiums in all the matches and enthusiasm in the players nd crowd is just fantastic. The scoring line may disappoint but if you are rugby lover, this is the best one and a half month of matches to enjoy.
4329  Economy / Gambling / Re: 2dice.io - new design - new impressions! Play for free, test your luck on: October 04, 2019, 05:13:11 PM
Those who agree with public selling of the website and talk about transparency are right. But the main problem is not with transparency.
Any kind of doubt and uncertainity about the future of a crypto-related website causes users to leave the website. Now the future of 2dice is completely unclear. This makes the website untrusted to gamblers. Why should people play in 2dice while the future is unclear and there are many other websites?


Exactly, the site is for a public sale. Everyone knows it is a much trusted site than a brand new gambling site. What if a scammer with an evil mind purchase this site and then scam people funds in few months ?
4330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: October 04, 2019, 04:32:23 PM
Gambling is an industry that provides jobs to millions of people around the world.
There might be people living off on gambling wins but they'd soon run out of luck and end bankrupt and might even go insane or turn into a criminal.

Gambling a Profession. No  Never Not at all

How can you rely on something which is unstable and unpredictable.  It can be considered as a game of fun but it cannot be something which can earn you constant income for the rest of your life
4331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: October 01, 2019, 04:59:18 PM
It may not be a bad strategy to bet in favor of Sri Lanka for the third ODI match. The gambling sites are giving them very low odds (most of them at 9/2). Looking at their spirited performance during the 2nd match, I would say that there is a chance of upset.
This is exactly what I am thinking of doing. If Sri Lanka pull off an upset here, it is possible to win big money. However, they need to perform well overall to have a fighting chance against the powerful Pakistan team.

The main problem with Sri Lanka is that their batting looks very weak. Remember that the top order collapsed completely against Pakistan during the second ODI. At one point, they were struggling at 28/5, before Shehan Jayasuriya and Dasun Shanaka rescued them from complete annihilation. They needs to strengthen their batting, but I guess that the main issue is that their players haven't got enough time to acclimatize to the conditions (due to the climate and security situation).

Now coming to the odds, I would say that 9/2 is as good as it get. And some of the sites have even better odds. I just checked BetWay, and they are giving Sri Lanka 11/2. 10Cric have them at 6/1. These odds are very tempting.  Grin

Some gamblers love to take risks to go against the majority and get better odds in case of win. Since Pakistan team is unpredictable and no one is 100% sure how will they perform in the last match, it is worth to take risk by betting on Srilanka for the last one day.
4332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: September 29, 2019, 09:51:56 AM
I have worked for a few years in a casino and I couldn't help but imagine that people should be able to gamble with bitcoin.

Is it already happening? - I don't mean on the internet

And do you think this will be future of casinos?

Do you know that one day bitcoin will become a main stream currency and we will be using it in physical places like hotels, restaurants and shops. At that time bitcoin will be used in physical casino also.

Don't be much hypothetical here, we've known bitcoin for so long, we've known its capability but let us not forget that it contain high volatility rate which is more likely the reason why people would easily give up on crypto. There are already establishments that acknowledge cryptocurrency, most of them are well known companies across the globe. I don't think physical casinos would do the same as they are regulated by the government, being that said casinos also have workers to be paid not by means of bitcoin but fiat. We need more time, much time to transition into cashless society.

Bitcoin volatility can only be reduced when it is widely spread everywhere and bitcoin is distributed. If few whales hold major portion of the bitcoins, then this manipulation cannot be stopped

If wishes were horses, beggars might ride

Or it is easier said than done (not plagiarism but a couple of witticisms). To cut a long story short, Bitcoin is good money while fiat is bad money, with the implication being that people prefer to hoard bitcoins and spend dollars (or whatever). Yeah, I know it sounds a little bit like paradox given Bitcoin's extreme volatility but the main premise still stands (good versus bad). What that means is that there is little to no chance for Bitcoin to be evenly distributed, ever, which in turn essentially means volatility is here to stay and we have to live with that

Also we will have a phase when the fiat will completely be replaced by the digital currency and at that time, even the physical casino will be using the crypto. Although this may take a decade or even more to happen

But that's unlikely to happen for the reasons stated. However, personally, I have doubts whether we actually need that land casinos started to accept crypto when there is no lack of online ones with which you can gamble your coins away in a relaxed and cozy manner without leaving your armchair and constantly looking back over your shoulder (though you can still safely keep your fingers crossed)


So your point of view is that bitcoin can never be able to become the major currency of the world or rather a one world currency Bitcoin is not possible ?
4333  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️🎲 WINDICE.io 🎲 0.3 BTC Wagering Contest 🔰 Progressive Faucet💰 Jackpots 🎁❤ on: September 29, 2019, 08:08:49 AM
I do not recommend anyone to get involved in this casino. The thing is that it is adjusted so that you lose. Namely:
1. The minimum bet is 10 satoshi.
2. Minimum sending between users is allowed only if you have more than 0.002 bitcoins on your balance. That is, the administration itself forces you to play a minimum of 0.002 or more decent amounts, which naturally you will not succeed.
3. The commission for the withdrawal of 0.0002, which is just a wild sum for this kind of institution.

I do not see how these three parameters will be the reason to lose at windice ? All these three factors do not contribute to the winning or losing.

As per my experience at windice, I do not find any reason why we should not  gamble there. It's perfectly safe and enjoyable to gamble at this site.
4334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: September 29, 2019, 07:35:20 AM
I have worked for a few years in a casino and I couldn't help but imagine that people should be able to gamble with bitcoin.

Is it already happening? - I don't mean on the internet

And do you think this will be future of casinos?

Do you know that one day bitcoin will become a main stream currency and we will be using it in physical places like hotels, restaurants and shops. At that time bitcoin will be used in physical casino also.

Don't be much hypothetical here, we've known bitcoin for so long, we've known its capability but let us not forget that it contain high volatility rate which is more likely the reason why people would easily give up on crypto. There are already establishments that acknowledge cryptocurrency, most of them are well known companies across the globe. I don't think physical casinos would do the same as they are regulated by the government, being that said casinos also have workers to be paid not by means of bitcoin but fiat. We need more time, much time to transition into cashless society.

Bitcoin volatility can only be reduced when it is widely spread everywhere and bitcoin is distributed. If few whales hold major portion of the bitcoins, then this manipulation cannot be stopped.
Also we will have a phase when the fiat will completely be replaced by the digital currency and at that time, even the physical casino will be using the crypto. Although this may take a decade or even more to happen.
4335  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Most Popular Bitcoin Casino | V2 & New games out now! 👽 on: September 29, 2019, 05:28:27 AM
So it means that if a person have good number of referrals, he can earn good amount of commission without having to gamble himself.  Wagering 20 btc is not tough, and you will get 0.02 BTC. That's a kool amount. You just need to focus on how to attract the new gamblers so that they can signup under your link and you earn free commissions.

Very true, imagine if you get an active referral and a "Whale". You will get a passive income everyday by referral commision. Well it's not only happen on stake. All gambling sites, trading sites and else also have referrals program that you can earn from your refs.

The referral commissions earned from trading and other legit sites are very less. But anyone can earn good amount of passive income from commission at stake.com because of the good referral commissions they offer on wagering.
4336  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Most Popular Bitcoin Casino | V2 & New games out now! 👽 on: September 28, 2019, 02:14:16 PM
(...)

It is the same as Rakeback from VIP.
It's 10% of the wagering from your Referral's Game's House Edge
So if the Game's House Edge is 1% it's 0,1% Commission.
~

Thank you for your explanation! It looks more sane now. Smiley I knew that "10% of what your referrals wager", like you said earlier, was just too impossible to be true. Smiley

One more dive took over Bitcoin since yesterday
Do you think it will return back to normal?

Regarding the price of Bitcoin, it's going back up, little by little, already. I think we will see $10k again in a week.
If you have so many referrals on your account, you can negotiate about the rate commission. I have a friend who have so many referrals on stake and he got a special commission rate for it.
About the bitcoin price, i'm not sure about that. It's been a rough week for bitcoin so far.

How does stake pay commission on referrals ? On the basis of number of referrals or on the amount the referrals wager ?
Also let me know the normal commission rate which stake pays ?

10% of house edge is standard. This means if your referrals wager a cumulative of 20 BTC you'll earn 0.02 BTC. I do know that stake will increase the commission, 30% or so - including their rakeback.

So it means that if a person have good number of referrals, he can earn good amount of commission without having to gamble himself.  Wagering 20 btc is not tough, and you will get 0.02 BTC. That's a kool amount. You just need to focus on how to attract the new gamblers so that they can signup under your link and you earn free commissions.
4337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] HoloToken (HOT): Holo The Distributed Hosting Platform on: September 26, 2019, 03:48:41 PM


I think people do not realize the potential in the project as yet or maybe they are waiting for the swap which will be a turning point for HOLO.

Holo reached all time high around 42-43 satoshi, while i feel it will easily cross 100 - 200 sat in the next altcoins bull run.
4338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: IEOs is a game for top exchanges. on: September 26, 2019, 03:12:32 PM
That is true, these top exchanges collaborating themselves with the projects and listing some new tokens heavy price which is not at all worth to invest. I never wish to invest on IEO for long term purposes, Instead we can choose good ICO to invest the fund at safe side. We need to check the project team and what is the project is about to confirm whether you can invest or not!

Also exchanges do get lot of benefits from IEO. Take the example of Binance. They allowed only BNB coin to participate in the IEO and thus the price and demand of the Binance coin increased a lot. Same is the case with KCS (Kucoin exchange) and others.
But at the same time, it is also beneifial for the investors because they know that the coin will be listed on the exchange and they will gain good profit from it.
4339  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🌟777Coin🌟🌟 ✅ Many Games! 🂡🂫🎰🎡 ✅ Progressive Slot Jackpot!💰 ✅ 5+ years on: September 26, 2019, 06:36:24 AM
i joined 777 awhile back it says to post on here to get free btc well i did awhile back and still havent recieved any even after i deposited account name slick88

Wasn't that you got some free money when entering your username is a specific topic here on the forum? I got some with that few years ago. Havent tried it recently so i cant tell if it's still actual.

I tried a few months ago posting there but it gave nothing. Very likely that particular campaign is over, in spite of still showing in their site under Account, Free BTC.

Earn FREE BTC by posting to our bitcointalk giveaway thread once per day or check out our referral program to earn even more.

The signature campaign is paying diligently every week, recommended if you are not in any other campaign already.

Yes, I posted on thread to earn some faucets to play on 777, but I thing that campaign is over
777 now is a big website to gambling, they don't need a lot of publicity  Grin Grin Grin

No doubt 777coin is one of the leading gambling websites but all the big websites keep on promoting themselves at the same time because they always get new players because of good publicity and also they have a budget to plan a massive publicity campaign. Their Signature campaign is one of the oldest and best campaign on this forum.
4340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitWhite [Official] on: September 26, 2019, 06:28:45 AM
Swap is coming. BitWhite becomes Aigar. 60 BTW will be swaped to 1 Aigar. New coin will be in the future CPU mineabel.
Aigar will start with 1,000,000 supply with 15sec Blocktime  when each time 1 AGR is produced.
More info on telegram: https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@BTW_Community

Any news about the date when this swap will be happening. I have been following this project when its name was "Bitcoin White". Later it was changed to Bitwhite and now we are have a new chain  AIGAR.  I hope this may being more value to the coin and project.
Those who have masternodes in BTW, what will happen to them ?
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