sorta on topic

i need to make a priv key msg off my BTC addresses to prove to my email that I legit hold 100 btc

Thus the 'air gap' machine build would be safest to do this (PAPER virgin wallets never have been used for the hoard)

Thus to start this off I assume

I put a build together and put windows 10 on the machine and get the windows 10 updates off the interenet

and then

I download bitcoin wallet like bitcoin-qt and have it synch up on the internet as well

then unplug the beastie from the internet

make my private key msg's with info to prove i own the bitcoin to the byteball bot I gather and linked (hopefully forever with no monthly more to do on airdrops in future)

then just plain erase the windows machine to be safe and use it for something else after the re-install after the fact (ie format)

I also assume I can use the same encrypted msg (copy) each month to prove my btc from each of my btc paper wallets  or am I simply linked on that btc or btc address on the monthly snapshot and even that is not needed once i've linked (proof ) of my btc to byteball month to month

sorry about all the questions. but I'm clueless on such stuff..its cryptic as hell...and the machine build is turning out to be a pain..got the parts they are NOT

playing well together


anyway, any refinement or NO NO NO on the above and advice is appreciated..but I think I have the above Air gap'd machine thing down ...right?

(frigging things I do for an angle for some $$$ to apply to btc or hell to hold byteball sheesh)

again thanks for the info

Yeah..its bitcoin....loves the 'drama'

Thus imho, if seg witness 2 with the 2mb hardfork does somehow achieve consensus and eventual acceptance by bitcoin core (thou as coders they will drag their feet....they are
never very fast..even on the code they currently push)

then I would be we would see 5k usd btc by the end of this year

IF IT all goes PEARSHAPED

and splits and a cluster of bitmain coin and the rest of the FUD

Bitcoin will drop below 1K usd imho

so place your bets....btc is only all in on its manic cycle as either too far up ...or too far down

but your point of holding for 3 years is true...just saying this as an aside

figure that timeline in 'rollercoaster time'

I contacted them on same 2 weeks ago. They have not replied.

So if enough people want seq wit 2 that part is on. But are there enough in bitcoin core
camp to block the 2mb hard fork? That is what I thought. Someone clarify? I'd bet bitcoin
core could dig up enough to stop 2mb hard fork. Details on how I'm wrong with how this works?

The catch is for the seg wit compromise for at least 'signaling' I'd think there'd be more movement upward in price

on the other hand

bitcoin core has NOT yet come out and said thank you for seg witness...BUT the other shoe that may drop a few months from now

IF bitcoin core will not support the 2mb hard fork (or any hard fork), so we could be looking at 2 more years after 2018 of this yet

(not to mention that Craig Wright supposedly Satoshi will have access to keys to his supposed hoard in a trust of bitcoin on Jan 1st 2020...sorry I use this story
to scare 'newbies' ..he is the last person I'd want to be satoshi..he'd dump it all and watch us all burn imho) (shudder ..scared self)

I don't believe but it makes a great BTC bedtime horror story...

bitcoin is 'never stable' is like a Cat...either preparing to jump up or jump down .....except with BTC it is price.....

Assuming bitcoin core just says 'thank you' for seg witness and then blocks any future 2mb block, 4 months down the road. (Sorry it is bitcoin devs of any flavor it is how they roll)

Naw, ltc even at 100 bucks at btc's 3000 bucks if all btc cluster is resolved is likely
Imho. If btc current plan goes cluster, then ya ltc would well explode beyond a 100 bucks
say, as the only alternative with seg witness and lightning at that point in time.

Well, bitcoin loves 'drama'

If the seg witness plan with eventual 2mb hardfork goes thru I see a possibility
of $5,000 usd bitcoin by the end of the year.

If it does not happen, esp if UASF and bitmain' UAHF kicks in, and even more
of a cluster. Well, btc and altcoins will crash imho big time. With chance of
bitcoin well under 1,000 usd  

All depends if bitcoin core pushes back, on what they likely see as miner
centralization and their view any future hard forks are too dangerous, as they
claim.

Pick your poison. Place your bet. Me, holding btc and mining ltc and holding
ltc as my hedging. Not that I really have a clue, but my gut.

Again bitcoin core could just block the hardfork yet correct?

This compromise will just remove the segregated witness roadblock.

I just can't see core rolling over on this and giving all this future power

On development to the miners. Cave from their view on decentralization and

If they believe themselves, still believe a hard fork is dangerous and impractical.

It will likely be another year of FUD, if they can't even agree to meet in person.

Imho. Damn well hope I'm dead wrong.

Knc techs at the time said a bbb cost 40% more also.

I don't mine ETH, but those that do say there is not a chance in hell ETH will go pos while the price is going up and it gains on bitcoin

so I'm told..maybe they are in denial.....but damn imho on this if ETH went pos....the price would fall to like 1/3 is my guess without

gpu miner holding cheerleaders (at this time maybe later in time by 1-2 years ..but now its my view)

My head hurts...but from my limited programming (basic on a 1976 apple ][)

the emergent consensus will get everyone on board to turn on seg witness, but it will have nothing to do at this time for doing a 2mb hard fork which they want

thus can't bitcoin core or someone ...let emergent consensus work in their favor and then simply have enough clout to block a future 2mb hard fork anyway

if this is so, emergent consensus signaling is simply a face-saving measure to get seg witness up by those who want a 2mb block and hope reasonableness wins later with bitcoin core

and hard fork of 2mb? In other words this whole cluster of 2mb hard forks would again rear its ugly head with no real solutions?

Again.....just trying to follow all this in my limited manner (I work with dev disabled deaf-blind folk..how I fell into techy miner stuff is anyone's guess)

I can't believe your Titans work on prohashing...mine errored all over the place with the proper (so i was told) configs

perhaps it all evens out in the wash but on lightcoin pool it is a straight line for 11 Titans on prohashing it looks up and down all over the place error wise 4-6%

thus never re-tried with lightcoin pool at NO fee and 108% payout

but if the calcs above for lightcoin pool are WITH the lightcoinpool calc which includes the no fee and 8% bonus I may have to reconsider even the Titans

not just the bitmain stuff

just need to toss one up and see I guess..will wait for a day or 2 for prohashing to get their legs under themselves again thou

Does a guy really, really make more on prohashing (when it works) using say an L3+?

I mean litecoinpool is free (no 5% fee) and pays 108%...so I've not bothered yet. The knc Titans seem to hate prohashing or nice hash..but 3050 of my mining is bitmain
L3's and L3+'s ...so anyone here make the switch from litecoinpool to prohashing (when it worked)

just need some real figures...essentialy I give up a 5% bonus (no fee) and at 108% payout on litecoin pool it has to be

1) stable as a rock like litecoinpool (that may be iffy..but I can always set litecoin pool up as back up pool)..

2) and the above 13% advantage out of the gate using litecoin pool will have to be beat by a pretty good margin

Anyway the calcs are telling me one thing.just anyone do a real world switch?

Post it on this thread .I'm sure it is prudent....folks getting bitmain L3+'s have to plop them someplace

for those who ARE on www.prohashing.com and want to BACKWARD compare with litecoin pool ..you can use this calculator link

it includes the 108% bonus and no fee in the calcs on litecoinpool payouts, so pooler told me. www.litecoinpool.org/calc

them % if significant at $50 LTC is turning into real $$$ all of a sudden..so I suppose a guy should look this over again, just to be sure.

I use bitmain's last ones ...forget what they are called I'd assume the new ones specific for the
L3+ would be ok (then again no one has tested one yet)

but the previous psu's I got work ok, just as an aside



re-read thread posts here from the past

some of us think the backlog they had between the last shipped L3+'s on top of their own hashnet and data halls will have a huge impact

2x to 3x the difficulty by say Sept first...this due to 3 batches in July ...that to some of us seem to be quite large...plus the August stuff thereafter etc

others think not so much

July will tell I guess

but I'm skewed I have units for April may etc.....but again imho if you are counting on a pre-order till the end of September for these units on a pump of LTC to say 75 bucks or so

well I'd get coin....wait for that pump...dump some profits and then maybe by your flavor of asic equip x11, pow-scrypt or GPU

seems safer

my view (not that I know squat) but bitmain DID saturate the bitcoin market ..I'd expect the same here on pow-scrypt and litecoin

Well the odds got better. Bitmain raised the price of their L3+ to 41 LTC (only crypto listed..I assume you can still wire xfer)..that currently is about $2,100 usd.

Great evil planning on their part. IF LTC goes to 75 bucks, bitmain will point to them and say buy now..if LTC Price dumps to 40 bucks they will say

buy now great deals.

A way to maximize the most amount of miners out the door with the least amount of hassle on their part..self-regulating to get max units (er toasters) out the door...L3's that is

So

2,800 bucks now for an L21 miner from bw.com is looking a LOT better if they

1) have them on hand to ship now vs waiting till end of Sept or beginning of Oct to get the above-mentioned batches of L3+'s

2) if you can find a legit guy doing a group buy like (longsnowsm) to do it, assuming they will take pity on hobby thread here and do a batch of 25 say at that price


The main reason for them to do so ..is to get the word out to the big boys on this thread that COULD with like 4 whale buddies get 100 piece lots

Group buys can really take off under the right circumstances

but anyway, those are the two levers you'd have to move to get this big a*ss rock moving and get some of these out into the world imho

edit:

should and one more point

3) They have to answer their emails to either a) consider this group buy or b) tell us to bugger off

Still, think it is like a dog chasing a car...you'll never catch up....disclaimer thou: I have a mess of ROI bitmain equip..but even being a big fan of mining..if you think the
price is gonna go up on LTC ..just save your 41 LTC for the pump...in that there is no reason to get scrypt-pow miners if you expect scrypt-pow coins including LTC to
pump in a big way.

Too many folk on here ....get the equipment or are thinking about it..and HOPE for a pump in LTC price. IF that is ever the case, again imho, it is not really a good time to
get equip.....too much risk with .what is it now an almost 3-month wait...ie pre-order

Also, remember when LTC price went from like 10 bucks to 25 bucks bitmain PULLED all the pre-orders back (firmware problems ...even thou when machines were gotten
still showed jan firmware on the units)

Thus even IF LTC price was to jump to 75 bucks or 100 bucks ..there is the possibility that Bitmain could just pull the same stunt to fill their data halls on your dime and

drive up difficulty by 1/3 and then ship stuff 6 weeks later (happened to me)

So anyway. time to buy equip and a time to maybe invest in coin...take some $$$ out on the pump and use that SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE for new equipment

me..its not the time...especially, with bitmain raising the price of units to 2,100 usd or there about's at today's LTC price or dumping more on hash net also at inflated prices

use the rise to your advantage for future ASIC miners of any flavor (scyrpt-pow/gpu/x11) etc etc

Now imho is not the time

(again: I lucked out and scored on equipment so my view is skewed.....just saying..it looks frigging iffy as heck on all this with the amount of bitmain units being (suspected) pumped)

Well, I'm calling scam. NO one attempting to get that much venture capital $$$ with a full page Time Magazine Ad, could deliberately be that disorganized
not to have what you mention above.

It is just not possible if it was a legit venture. No one would invest in a company pulling that stunt, full page ad or not.

Thus it is a scam, preying on those clueless on crypto, not doing due diligence in researching this like they should a business...simply because it is mysterious crypto.

What the Kitcoin scammers are doing imho, assuming folk won't dig too deep before sending funds. Actually, this is how MOST ponzi schemes work.

Man you got to like bitmain from their evil genus hedge on if they have to do uahf and go with a bitmain coin fork on bitcoin

even if they do it will only benifit LTC etc...so man what a hedge

The also I see only take LTC now 41 LTC to get a L3+ (Jan I was paying that to have titan cube fixed at 4.15 LTC or there abouts..sigh)

In case your keeping track that is a jump to about $2,100 bucks (ouch!)

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201706190211442184X1qwJal06AD

So IF the price of LTC goes up to $75 bucks ...folks will likely pay...if it dumps to $30 ltc folk will also likely pay on the dump...bitmain is like hey not our fault LTC price is set ..get them now

thus ..it is a nice self-regulating mechanism to get out the maximum amount of L3+ units out at any given time..and they can do what baikal does

same way with btc crypto

lump it or leave it.....

starting to get concerned ..the evil genius stuff is starting to become clearer to me over time now on how this "evil mindset'  stuff works....scared self    

brad

Won't bitcoin core simply block this with their version? A role flip? Stalemate?