2 days untill the 90's level, ahhhhh, nice little suckers run, but lets face it, 160 dollars, HUGELY OVERVALUED atm, 90 dollars is a nice ground, and unless people feel it should be worth more, it goes down, never sits still at price for too long as thats boring and noones in this to buy bitcoins and use them, jsut to have fun trying to get rich quick, therefore, unless people believe that bitcoins should be worth more and want to be burnt like last time, we're going down to double digits baby ! here it comes

The point is it will collapse soon enought maybe today, maybe next week. But it will and i will laugh in your face and buy your chip coins

I buy in january when it was about 15-20$ then sold at 210$, then rebuy at 60$ and sold at 160$ and i think it will fall soon enough i graduate economical school so i know something about it

Lo que dices no tiene ningún sentido, es igual de peligroso tener el dinero que los bitcoins.
- Si te hackean la cuenta tan fácil como convertir el dinero a bitcoins y retirarlos.
- Si el exchange cierra, tiene problemas con el banco, etc, tu dinero también desaparece.

Por seguridad es mejor tener el dinero/bitcoins en el exchange lo mínimo posible, y si podemos elegir otra vía como localbitcoins, por ejemplo, muchísimo mejor.

Obviamente no estoy hablando de tener el dinero en mt. gox. Sólo un retrasado dejaría guardado el dinero en un exchange. Me refiero a que depender de mt. gox para valorar el precio del Bitcoin lo hace muy débil, un ataque como el de la semana pasada y se lía parda.

Well assuming the Difficulty is at 20m by time the deliever the large Jupiter, at is still making about ~$950 a day. At 30m, it drops to ~$650 a day. Still not too bad for a $7k investment.

Yeah, I realized I got google'd. hahaha.. ok well, then, for the future con artists, be sure to start your scams 5 years ago.

For reference, I asked one of the other thread group buyers if I could just copy his style, and he said everything is ok.

For full disclosure, I have an account on localbitcoins with the same nick, but only 2 ratings. I reserved my nick on irc #bitcoin-otc, with no ratings, but GPG authenticated and bitcoin address authenticated. It doesn't mean much, I just made those this year. But, I am heavily relying on the fact that I'm a real person. (I don't know how you define real or fake, but whatever.)

I live in one city, I work in another (a half hour drive), ... and I like bitcoins. I also bought all I could buy from the first group buy.

When the other two group buys are over, I'm hoping some other people will come here. But I am also hoping to see a lot of local buyers as well. I may extend the deadline depending on what the other buyers feel, I just want to facilitate this. There are filipinos in other forums that have been mining since CPU and GPU days, so here's my opportunity to help them get in on the ASICs.

And I am hoping someone will find a local electrical engineer to do the assembly.

Again, difficulty is going up to 1 billion (or whatever). So keep that in mind. I still think you can earn a decent ROI until the end of the year though.

Going to sleep now. I'll check this thread tomorrow evening. Good night.

BFL's Jalapeno exists - I have one in my hand and just uploaded a video

Isn't their first Mars miner technically an FPGA?

And why does their 250GH/s miner need to be water cooled? I thought ASIC chips were cool to begin with?

yep i sell and waiting for big pop out of bubble

Well, more than guarantee your funds, they also get back their status as an all in one payment solution (they were that before bitcoin...).

You are just stupid bull sir. Just watch today movie on http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ tickets are freee

X-posted from my other post:

"The real value for the consumer here is the FDIC insured, household brand name wallet that makes them feel safe and cuddly when they hold their bitcoins there. Make no mistake about it, this is the smart and only play."

The biggest hole in bitcoin right now (for the majority of online users) is security and Paypal fills this hole with flying colors. They dont have to do anything else and people will happily pay 1-3% on every transaction just for the peace of mind of knowing its in a safe place and you dont have to be an expert in cryptography to store it. This is a no brainer in terms of strategy.

I voted "<100" just for teh lulz.

But really. Having trouble comprehending how Paypal/WU could use Bitcoin?
1) Offer their regular service at their regular price

2) Use bitcoin INTERNALLY

3) Reduce overhead involved with transferring USD

4) People will still use it, since they "trust" paypal but they don't have the knowledge/don't trust bitcoin. Paypal takes the risk of bitcoin and sheep get to continue using their USD, it's just that now Paypal has increased their profit margin by a significant amount.

And yes, they are big boys, they know how to not get burned by exchange rate fluctuations. It's not like we don't already have thriving companies that have figured out how to manage.

That's just one of many options. They could also decide to become an exchange, wallet provider, or both. Of course they would provide a front-end that would be very vanilla and regulated compared to bitcoin - i.e. might only allow transfer to Paypal bitcoin accounts, would require identification, etc. etc. It would be like a watered-down version of Bitcoin for the sheep. Hey, still better than no bitcoin.

Again, just several options/ideas and I'm sure their executives are dreaming up strategies to incorporate it without driving people to actually abandon Paypal completely in favor of bitcoin.

I could see them launching their own cryptocurrency to compete with bitcoin but of course it would be centralized and price would be heavily controlled so I doubt that would really take off, especially with Paypal's fraudulent record as it is. They could also launch their own cryptocurrency but allow it to be exchanged with BTC. It'd be hilarious to see how this would play out, though.