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4381  Economy / Services / Re: YABTCL.com Signature Campaign 35 Slots 0.00035 - 0.0015 per post on: December 08, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
I want to join your campaign.

Are you enrolling new members for this month?

Thanks in advance. Smiley

I'll ask Yabtcl.

We currently have enrolled users with negative trust which is against the rules: their posts are also going up so I would like to have a clarification from our campaign manager.

Such as? Even if their posts are going up if people get valid negative trust from dt then they wont be paid.

We currently have enrolled users with negative trust which is against the rules: their posts are also going up so I would like to have a clarification from our campaign manager.
Who exactly do you mean? I see only one person with neg trust, gampher, that too because I have zakir on my trust list

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=255170
slark also

and gampher as you noticed

Neither Slark or Gampher have negative as I see them (and the latter hasn't even made any posts yet).
4382  Other / Meta / Re: 2FA For forum accounts? on: December 08, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
It's a brand new forum software built from scratch, and nothing will be lost and all ranks/posts etc will be transferred over.
4383  Other / Meta / Re: 2FA For forum accounts? on: December 08, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
It's coming with the new forum. Several options will be available. See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523070.0

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Fancy Authentication

In addition to normal password authentication, the forum should support various kinds of of alternative authentication. At least password auth, email verification, secret questions, OpenID, PGP, OpenVPN (automatic creation of subnets + IP source verification), and Bitcoin address signing should be supported, with multiple allowable credentials for each auth type. Users should have the option of requiring any combination of these auth types. Like "pgp OR (password AND OpenID)". And users should be able to require that changes to some or all auth types as well as the required combination of types not take effect for some configurable number of days. This allows for different types of recovery methods.
4384  Other / Meta / Re: Hilarious bots posting nonsense: what's the point? on: December 08, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
Who is NLC and what is the backstory? im curious now. Btw, I have checked in the members tab, ordered in date of registration, and the registration of new bot accounts is getting out of hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;desc;start=0

Just today, there are 20 pages and most of the accounts are the same bot, easily recognizable in the nicknames.

NotLambchop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263109 (amongst others). Speculation troll who had his account(s) banned but seems to want his main one back and this botspam is his way of trying to do so (but it's not going to work).

4385  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: December 08, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
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4386  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buying Accounts on: December 08, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
It means he can't really prove the account is his by signing a message from a bitcoin address associtated with that account to prove that the account hasn't been hacked etc.

See the following if you're unsure what is or how you sign a message:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3898/how-does-sign-message-work
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1526413-how-do-i-sign-a-message-with-a-bitcoin-address-
4387  Other / Meta / Re: Similar Usernames Attempting To Scam - Defaults Please Tag on: December 08, 2015, 03:56:38 PM
New one:

"theym0s ` `"

This is desperate. 5 extra characters and the gaudy warning in the PM, who could possibly get fooled by this.

You'd be suprised. Someone got nabbed last month for 1btc by sending it to someone named "sidehack `" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=564701 trying to impersonate the actual  sidehack https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130792

It must work about once out of every hundred tries so obviously worth doing to some.
4388  Other / Meta / Re: HYIP SCAMS - We need to do something on: December 08, 2015, 03:32:10 PM
The solution is obviously don't give them your money.
4389  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
* implement captcha for people with less than 100 post.
Personally I think adding another (better) captcha to sign-ups and when you make your first post you have to fill one in would help but not with every post and theymos seems to think they're pretty much useless anyway and I trust his judgement on that as he's a smarter guy than me and knows what he's doing when it comes to tech stuff but I don't think it would hurt adding a captcha personally.

Well most of the captcha could be bypassed easily (recaptcha v1+2, solvemedia..), but afaik funcaptcha seems to be the best (+/- are you human). Implementing one of the first category is useless and if the owner of the bot insist in spamming then he could find a way, for the 2 others there is a chance to slower him tho.

Btw, i used to report the spam like this (spam bot in the bitcoin discussion section) but when I find too much i report 1 then I write something like: another 5 spam bot posts in the bitcoin discussion section, dunno if it is helpful/easier for mods to nuke it than reporting it one by one?

I think any hurdles added to slow or stop them (or cost them more time, effort and money) are better than nothing and the crappy captcha we have at the moment and should be considered but basic ones that can be easily solved/botted themselves will be useless. Are there not any ones that are hard to bypass or possibly time-restricted to being filled in within 10-30 seconds or something to prevent cheap labour filling them out manually? As for reporting, reporting them each is preffered but if you just want to report one and state there's others that will do. Usually someone else will report them quite qucikly anyway.
the most difficult captcha i can think of having come across are those picture identification captchas, the ones where it says something along the lines of: 'identify all the sandwiches,' and you would choose 3 or 4 out of the 9 pictures presented. picture:


But those can just be outsourced to cheap labour too, right? Personally, I would prefer filling them out with a couple of clicks than typing out those stupid deformed word ones that can take me a couple of goes sometimes.
4390  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
* implement captcha for people with less than 100 post.
Personally I think adding another (better) captcha to sign-ups and when you make your first post you have to fill one in would help but not with every post and theymos seems to think they're pretty much useless anyway and I trust his judgement on that as he's a smarter guy than me and knows what he's doing when it comes to tech stuff but I don't think it would hurt adding a captcha personally.

Well most of the captcha could be bypassed easily (recaptcha v1+2, solvemedia..), but afaik funcaptcha seems to be the best (+/- are you human). Implementing one of the first category is useless and if the owner of the bot insist in spamming then he could find a way, for the 2 others there is a chance to slower him tho.

Btw, i used to report the spam like this (spam bot in the bitcoin discussion section) but when I find too much i report 1 then I write something like: another 5 spam bot posts in the bitcoin discussion section, dunno if it is helpful/easier for mods to nuke it than reporting it one by one?

I think any hurdles added to slow or stop them (or cost them more time, effort and money) are better than nothing and the crappy captcha we have at the moment and should be considered but basic ones that can be easily solved/botted themselves will be useless. Are there not any ones that are hard to bypass or possibly time-restricted to being filled in within 10-30 seconds or something to prevent cheap labour filling them out manually? As for reporting, reporting them each is preffered but if you just want to report one and state there's others that will do. Usually someone else will report them quite qucikly anyway.
4391  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: December 08, 2015, 02:53:56 PM
I don't disagree. A better option may be to split the thread then trash that.
4392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 08, 2015, 02:53:07 PM
Leicester have got to lose soon, some of you guys don't know how football works. Teams like Leicester don't win the PL, it just doesn't happen.

It's early December, come back to me in March, they'll be about 6th. It's a long winter, they've had no injuries yet. Talk to me again about Leicester in March.

First time for everything but teams like Chelsea don't normally hover three points above the relegation zone either Grin. I've just noticed that the last fixtures of the season include Chelsea vs Leicester City... imagine if that was the decider for the League for Leicester and Chelsea's relegation?  Grin I don't believe either will happen but it's fun to entertain.
4393  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 02:21:26 PM
* implement captcha for people with less than 100 post.

Personally I think adding another (better) captcha to sign-ups and when you make your first post you have to fill one in would help but not with every post and theymos seems to think they're pretty much useless anyway and I trust his judgement on that as he's a smarter guy than me and knows what he's doing when it comes to tech stuff but I don't think it would hurt adding a captcha personally.

* Auto flag(delete) a post if 5 different people(IP) report it as spam. (though also ban the reporting account for a week, if the report was false and not in good faith)

Not a good idea. This could be abused in the same way with bots. They get nuked after one post once they're reported anyway so this will suffice.
4394  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: December 08, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
What is NSFW images ?
 give detailed definition please Huh

Would you want to be looking at that image at work and would it cause you trouble if you were caught doing so? I'd say yes, so it's NSFW.
4395  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 01:40:06 PM
It's probably not very feasible to lower it for one specific person. For an entire rank would be easier, but it'd probably be better to add more patrollers.

I'm not sure if we really need any more patrollers as bots seem to get nuked within seconds or minutes at the most. Half of the time I click on them to ban them and they're done already (though there's been a few to handle when I wake up so look into some from a direct opposite timezone to what me and most of the other mods are in if you're going to add new ones. Really don't think there would be much point adding more patrollers from European time-zones).

It's probably not very feasible to lower it for one specific person. For an entire rank would be easier, but it'd probably be better to add more patrollers.

P.S: Noticed the change in the Bear's avatar?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpnqB-z-xs

Was wondering what it was. I prefer the old BadBear one.

It's probably not very feasible to lower it for one specific person. For an entire rank would be easier, but it'd probably be better to add more patrollers.
Wouldn't that mean less shares for the existing ones? Or does the share from ad revenue only go to Global moderators and Section moderators, not Patrollers?

Marginally. It goes to everyone but how much you get depends on how active you are coupled with your mod rank. More mods would probaby mean others would get a little less but it would only be slight and probably not even noticable.
4396  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: December 08, 2015, 12:53:00 PM
Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

That's fucking ridiculous. He has over 250 posts all in a row talking to no one but himself and he's already nearly made ten posts today alone. It's clear nobody is interested in his tips and is likely only doing it for signature payment but there's no reason why the daily updates can't all be in one post. I've notified Marco but at the very least I reckon it's spam and violates the one bump per 24 hour rule but not sure how that should be handled as there's a major clean up needed. I've asked the admins for clarification on double/multi-posting but in my opinion it's blatant spam and completely unnecessary (and same goes for others double/triple/quadruple posting when there's no apparent need for it).
4397  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 12:25:19 PM

Didn't know there was one but contact theymos or BadBear as they're likely the only ones that can increase it.
Actually now that I remember a bit, I think it was you "decreasing" or doing something like "vouching for reports", for a newbie who was complaining about the report limit being too high.

We can white-list users but it's only really for shortening the time between posts/reports etc for newbs or whatever. Think it takes down your limit to 180 seconds or something so probably wont do anything for you.
4398  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
God, since yesterday the forum is having a good amoutn of spam bots, this is annoying.
Can anything be done, except manually ban them, like trace origin IP?

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278627.0

And here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278196.0

And no, banning IPs doesn't do anything because they just move on to another. Just ignore or report them as they get nuked within seconds/minutes.
Wanted to make a new thread for this question but is there a way to reduce my report limit? I think I heard something about mods being able to give some "special ability" to do so.

Didn't know there was one but contact theymos or BadBear as they're likely the only ones that can increase it.
4399  Other / Meta / Re: What's up with all those spam bots? on: December 08, 2015, 11:14:02 AM
God, since yesterday the forum is having a good amoutn of spam bots, this is annoying.
Can anything be done, except manually ban them, like trace origin IP?

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278627.0

And here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278196.0

And no, banning IPs doesn't do anything because they just move on to another. Just ignore or report them as they get nuked within seconds/minutes.
4400  Other / Meta / Re: HYIP SCAMS - We need to do something on: December 08, 2015, 11:02:42 AM
Suggest your ideas that can be implemented so this problem can be curbed.

One suggestion I would like to give is that "newbie" users should not be allowed to directly post any
new Hyip program. Instead they would be required support from any senior member and that senior member will post the
information about the HYIP.

Another suggestion can be some fixed "security deposit" system here before allowing the hyip be posted here.

Or people could just stop giving them money? I don't care whether they're allowed here or not but they're not going to provide you with a deposit because they're gambling. It's like asking dice sites to give you their money back once you've lost it with them. Don't take the gamble in the first place.
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