With the price bump in ether the wait for this card to get released feel like forever and then we don't even know how well it will perform.
Yes. I am thinking if I should wait another 16 days or buy some R9 390 now. I can start making money now. Depens on if you dont have a problem with the heat and power drain of the 390s if you have power under .10cents i would say buy as many 390 as you can as long as you can cool them the 390s run HOT and also the 970s as well , compared to the nanos and these newer cards which can mine at full power at 70degrees easily even in a poorly ventilated area like mine. People always worry about power use but the bigger issue is the heat, the higer the power drain of a GPU the more heat it will generate and you have to be able to counteract that somehow. |
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waves now in my wallet  when start wave trading tomorrow? My waves shows in the wallet but it still says Incoming payment at the bottom and i still see my wave balance on the ICO page will i be able to withdraw ? |
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got my 20k waves in the wallet what exchanges can we send them to on the 14th and what time will the exchanges be getting the source code ?
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power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:  Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.htmlthat is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for 26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr for and aditional 45 watts no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better 22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption wrong again the nano does 23.6 eth and 1200 dcr fr 140 watts with the claymore miner the 1070 costs nearly the same as a nano and is only a bit better most smart miners will be waiting for the 480 since it costs half the price of both of them |
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try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is
at +100 and +150 at 110w it is 28mhs at 90w - 27mh ill probably buy one to test temps 65 deg in my basement would be nice but i expect in a rack it would be much warmer the intersting thing is a r10 480 might do 26mhs at 100 watt too and with bios mods which they dont seem to be for nvidia it could possibly be as low as 50 watts combined with the afterbuner undervolt could be insane |
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The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for 26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr for and aditional 45 watts |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes In Windows, you can use the MSI afterburner to raise/reduce the core voltage. The memory voltage is not changeable. Read my post i said i tried that and it box crashes whenever i change the core from the 800 to anything higer windows 10, even with a clean install same thing happens. Hi Marvell, I had exactly the same problem. Reason is that some of your nanos cannot cope with -175mv while some can. I had 6 nanos shipped from Amazon and I made the mistake that I applied the same rom to ALL of them. However, each card is different. I even was very unlucky, and had one card that even cannot cope with a -100mv mem voltage! Hence my rig always crashed when increasing the core speed. Unfortunately I also used this gpu when I only tested with one nano... Therefore my recommendation: - Test each nano separately and see what mem voltage it does not crash with when you increase the core speed and start the mining I had the following results: GPU 1: -100core/-75mem: -100mem lets the system crash. Currently I manually reduce the core clock to -100 (there is only one -75/-75 rom here) GPU 2: -175 mem GPU 3: -175 mem GPU 4: -150 mem GPU 5: -70core/ -150 mem: Claymore's miner shows a lot of invalid shares for this gpu. I increased the core clock and now it's better though there are still some invalid shares from time to time GPU 6: Dead - getting replacement Some other issues: when running headless, max 640x480 resolution when using vnc. Had to purchase a dummy plug. Now it works. I'm thinking of reducing further the core clocks (except GPU5), but first I want to run this rig for some days to see its stability. Hope this helps! And Helios, great job! Looking forward to your other roms. Cheers, Talan thanks fr the info all my nanos are the xfx cards excet fr a few asus and saphire here and there what youre saying makes sense all the nanos run the 175 mod fine as lng as i dont touch the clocks and the further accet anther -12 mv undervolt all this is fine right now for the summer 23.6 mhs eth and 1200 dcr at 130 watts at summer elecrtic prices works well for me in the winter when its cooler and electrcity is cheaper ill take your advice and figure out what mod i can use that wil alowe for higer core clocks |
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You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140.
Nanos are nowhere near "about the same specs as an R9 290x" - more shaders, MUCH lower power usage, more RAM, much wider memory and higher memory bandwidth. I don't anticipate the RX 480 having a noticeable effect on their pricing - perhaps when an RX 490 comes out THAT might affect Nano pricing noticeably. From the specs I've seen to date on the RX 480, it is NOT in the same class as a Nano overall - somewhere between half and 3/4ths of the performance, mostly due to the higher clock rate and despite having about half the cores.... thats what im trying to tell them yes the 480 has newer tech and a newer fab process but the nano is basically the flagship of the current gen amd cards https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/37.htmlmsrp on the nano is actully $649 so its already at a 20% discount already and with 4k shaders i dnt see how it wil drop below 400 i grabed six for 480 this week |
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You have to wait two more weeks. Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane. I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card  If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months  If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash. yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140. youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year. Already are used http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-R9-Nano-4gb-/231973906748?hash=item3602b8e93c:g:gJwAAOSwuhhXWBJ0The nano will be replaced by gamers with r480x if they have HBM, they can small form factor the 480  The fan already makes the card much larger. you notice no one is biting on that card probably a refurb no other cards are that low |
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You have to wait two more weeks. Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane. I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash. yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140. youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year. |
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The AMD Nano/Fury line are all MUCH higher core count, faster clocks, faster memory, MUCH wider memory bus - and mine SLOWER than my 2-generation old R9 290s, which routinely see 30 MH and I've not pushed them as far as they CAN go (best figure I've seen for the Nano was 27).
There appears to be more than just pure "memory bandwidth" involved in how fast Ethereum can be mined by a given model of GPU.
Fury-x can do around 32mh/s on ethereum + 1700mh/s on decred simultaneaously with claymore dual miner. Nano just a little bit less (for nano http://mininghwcomparison.com/list/index.php?brand=amd) Stock clocks, or overclocked? Efficiency on the Fury/Nano is very good from everything I've seen, but still not impressive that a card with a ton more memory bandwidth and almost twice the Stream units is so poor on hashrate compared to a 2 generation old card. Is that 32Mh at stock clocks, or overclocked? So for the Fury/nano cards, is it better to dual mine so that the core processors can be utilised fullly? I foudn that dual mining lowers the eth hashrate unless you are downlocked to 800 core to save power then it makes no difference. right now i can only dual mine with the modded rom at 23.6 mhs eth and 1200 mhs of DCR for 135 or watts. eth only is still 24 mhs at 80 watts |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes In Windows, you can use the MSI afterburner to raise/reduce the core voltage. The memory voltage is not changeable. Read my post i said i tried that and it box crashes whenever i change the core from the 800 to anything higer windows 10, even with a clean install same thing happens. Do you mean even if you raise the core voltage to higher levels, that does not support the higher core frequency? core freqency you mean and yes the modded rom cards wont let me raise the core freqency frm 800 stock cards start at 1000 and i have no problems raising it up to 1060 |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes In Windows, you can use the MSI afterburner to raise/reduce the core voltage. The memory voltage is not changeable. Read my post i said i tried that and it box crashes whenever i change the core from the 800 to anything higer windows 10, even with a clean install same thing happens. if you are using H81-BTC board, ensure molex is powered, and also use powered risers. i use the msi gaming boards and all powered risers on all the cards so its not that |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes In Windows, you can use the MSI afterburner to raise/reduce the core voltage. The memory voltage is not changeable. Read my post i said i tried that and it box crashes whenever i change the core from the 800 to anything higer windows 10, even with a clean install same thing happens. |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes I was wondering why I was able to do it and many have commented that they cannot. I think I know why. My H81 is powered molex and my USB3 risers are also powered -- both powered. with a kickass PSU like EVGA-G2 1300w or 1600w, cranking it up to maximum was a breeze. its not a psu issue since i should be able to up the core to like 950 on a single card with my 1000 watt evga psu even tweaking one card leads to bsod and i have tried all the cards individually to see if its a specific card these are all with the 175 rom |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
and
stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes |
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thanks i got my 78 twitter bonus , was not even expecting it with all the whining i see here
really nice work so far i have around 20k waves now
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Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.
I have a contact at provantage.com. I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.
I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.
Phil,
I would think it would be worth looking into.
Between here and the ETH forum, I would think there would be a lot of interest.
I emailed for a 50 card price and a 100 card price. If I do this it has to be a decent price. would need to be like 500 cards to get a good price lol |
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I hope that the price delta between 4/8gb versions won't be too large (like 199/229 USD). 8 gb of ram nowadays are useful for many algos, not just ethereum.
There are no algos that require 8gb of memory. ETH is the only algo that requires at least 2gb of memory, and should be enough until the end of the year. yeah but if and when eth goes pos and a newer comes comes up the developers may want to make 4gb the lowest you can use and 6gb or 8gb more important. My logic would be if AMD of Nvidia push a new coin by paying a few developers to build one they would want to make it really asic resistant and that the 1070 or r9 480 are much better to mine with. At this point I have 4 r9 nanos 7 r9 390s 1 r9 380 not sure what I will do next. i would wait for the new card, they are so much better for consumption alone, it's not even funny and the 1070 despite its initial price, is still better than any amd nope it cant dual mine |
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Escrow through Ognasty? If yes, I would get 5 to start with.
No , at the moment , but we accept paypal. haha |
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