SebastianJu:
You look like trusted person here, so I can show you the video and some pictures of how it works on 10 computers. And then you can confirm it. But only you, I don't want to spread it on the internet.
Unfortunately i dont have a clue about this topic. I couldnt tell whats going on or if its the bot trading at all. And im not in the position to buy too. If i would have the money then i would ask you what profit it can make on the sites where its still working. If true i could offer you to pay you from the profits. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Like first month of running it. Though when it would be so easy then you would do it yourself. Where do you build your bots? Tradewave, cryptotrader or tradingview?
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They got no insurance (Which is pretty cheap),...
I doubt you will find an insurance company that will make an insurance for bitcoin miner. If you start to explain them that they are extremely valuable devices that will be valuable for 3 months only though then they will send you out of office fast. Its simply a real nice risk. So i think it was unavoidable that no insurance was there. Or was there an insurance for the big mining farm that burned down some weeks ago?
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Ideal buyer is someone who know how to avoid the security scanner of poker rooms. For some sites which is called bot-friendly it is very easy, but for FTP or PokerStars it is very hard to maintain the bot for more then 1 week.
Asking price is 2500$. Value of this script is probably more than 100x higher for someone who knows IT.
If the bot really is able to play so good wouldnt it make sense then to let the bot play outside of the pokerroom, check the decisions he makes and play manually on the pokersite then? I mean this wouldnt trigger the bot recognition tools. And when the bot isnt winning on mass but on higher amount games then this should be doable. On top you have to use human like playtimes because you play manually in fact. Only get support by a bot.
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Did anyone got a referral through the signature? If so how often does this happen only from forum signatures?
I've gotten a few people sign up through my signature and bet on the website. I made a few bitcents from it, but remember that your commission is 30% of the 1% that Rollin.io takes from every bet. So basically, your commission is 0.3% of a user's total amount bet. Is the signature link unique so that you know its because of that? If so how many posts did you made to get one referral? Though the refs might have happened because you are to tightly connected to the website. Only wondering. Might really be luck. Probably someone posting in gambling sections might turn that better. Yes, my signature link is unique. This campaign allows users to use their referral link in their signature. I believe I made just over 50 qualifying posts last month (probably about 75-80 including posts in this topic) and received around 38 signups from that. So, fairly decent stats. But yes, I definitely think if a user made the majority of their posts in the Gambling section, they'd probably see more referral signups, and more commission. 38 signups sound huge. I wonder if a normal user would be able to reach similar stats when posting normal.
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Did anyone got a referral through the signature? If so how often does this happen only from forum signatures?
I've gotten a few people sign up through my signature and bet on the website. I made a few bitcents from it, but remember that your commission is 30% of the 1% that Rollin.io takes from every bet. So basically, your commission is 0.3% of a user's total amount bet. Is the signature link unique so that you know its because of that? If so how many posts did you made to get one referral? Though the refs might have happened because you are to tightly connected to the website. Only wondering. Might really be luck. Probably someone posting in gambling sections might turn that better.
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Did anyone got a referral through the signature? If so how often does this happen only from forum signatures?
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Use a good indicator and stick with it. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fxnuuc3.png&t=663&c=KHy7R3IdAenwWw) Whats that indicator? I dont see how one would decide on how the trend will go up or down with that. Can you explain? Sorry for the late reply. That is an indicator I coded on tradingview. The trend is determined by the green and red background. Green you should be long and red short. The bars over the red/green indicate profit for each particular trade. Is your code public so that one can see the indicitors you use?
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By not paying for spammy posts he will not attract spammers, leaving room for people who make higher quality posts, which will increase the overall effectiveness of the campaign
That's one problem. Whether the post is considered spammy or is only the manager's choice and the participants are not being told which of their posts were disqualified. The other is the length of posts. If it was only about spam I wouldn't even start the argument, but it seems most posters were paid less than they should because their posts, according to the person who counted them, were too short. I guess that's it, we'll see how they do next week. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So far most of the persons who asked didnt see that they posted most in threads that dont count and so on. The oneliner seems to be not a general rule too, it depends on the usefulness of oneliners written. So far i dont see that unfair payments were done. The manager explained to everyone too, which is quite some work. I think that way is better than a bot, since a bot can be gamed because of his fixed rules.
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Actually that post was counted. You made a few posts - around 15 or so - after wearing the signature. Posts in this thread were excluded. Deutch off-topic is not counted too. However, some of those posts were counted since posts were of good quality. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Ah ok... didnt see that it was an off topic forum. Sounded like an ontopic topic. Anyway... i guess you hope you dont have to explain so much every week. : ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Additional rule... oneliner-posts dont count. I cant say that i think that makes much sense in general because oneliners can actually be very helpful but most of your posts are simply not helpful. But i think thats nothing only dadice is handling that way. As far as i read most signature campaigns handle it so. I went back to 80 posts and all i see is one line statements with little effort put into them, how many of the posts did you get paid for? I would maybe pay you for half of your posts if i was feeling generous. No need to pay me for reading it was my pleasure 40 were paid. And after only checking the first 20 posts i think it might match the oneline-posts that are taken out.
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Are the posts counted with a bot? Looks like he automatically not counts posts with too few lines then. Actually i had to think quite some time to write that post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=984397.msg10724569#msg10724569 and i think it cant get more constructive than it is. No, i dont complain because of one posts payment. Only wondering. When its really done with a bot then that means helpful posts might not be counted and not good ones can be cheated when the bot only counts words or signs of a post. Though it looked like at least a short look at the last posts page of each member was done manually. Edit: By the way... on first tab in google sheet i still have a wrong id in the first link. The reason might also be that it was in german. I know the important part was math, but thats also "non-english". I think its fine if we dont get paid for one-liners. Everyone posts one from time to time and it should not be a problem unless the majority of your posts are. Edit: Oh and no, they counted "by hand". I think thats why two people do it. Edit2: I also think these strict anti-spam rules are important to keep signature campaigns allowed. You (not you personally SebastianJu) should be happy that you get no payment or a little less, because the alternative is a ban and possibly a ban of signature campaigns in general. Dont let the greedy asscramps ruin it for the rest. Im not against it. I only say that oneliners arent automatically bad posts. In fact my post was very good since after i first thought i know the answer already, i had to search and calculate later, to check things out. It took me some time and it was the perfekt answer. In fact i think short answers often can be the better answers. But even when you would say that short answers automatically are spam... thats no solution at all. In my case... i only would need to add a sentence or two. Wouldnt be a problem. The same goes for spammers. Simply write more and youre done. So treating oneliners as spam might be a fast solution but i think its a rule that can be gamed. Which kills the purpose. And helpful oneliners (i got a thank you for it:)) are treated as spam. Saying that... if its checked manually anyway then it might be better to not got the oneliner-are-spam-route. It would be pretty easy anyway to identify spammer.
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Are the posts counted with a bot? Looks like he automatically not counts posts with too few lines then. Actually i had to think quite some time to write that post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=984397.msg10724569#msg10724569 and i think it cant get more constructive than it is. No, i dont complain because of one posts payment. Only wondering. When its really done with a bot then that means helpful posts might not be counted and not good ones can be cheated when the bot only counts words or signs of a post. Though it looked like at least a short look at the last posts page of each member was done manually. Edit: By the way... on first tab in google sheet i still have a wrong id in the first link.
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Ich speichere mir das QR Bild ab, schön mit Accountname, auf einen USB Stick und dann ab in den Safe.
Kannst du auch machen. Ist auf jeden Fall einfacher da man den Code einfach mit dem neuen Smartphone einscannen kann. Ich bevorzuge aber die Zeichenfolge weil man dann selbst eingeben kann wie der Name des Profils im Authenticator steht. Ich denke falls jemand mein Handy hat könnte das noch mal ein wenig sicherer sein wenn er nicht weiß zu welcher Seite das gehört. Aber ist vermutlich nicht wirklich nötig. *g* Wie das Profil im Handy heißt, kann man doch auch da noch ändern ... Ich habe alle Profile vom Namen her bei mir geändert. Zum Ersatzhandy ... das ist wohl wahr. Ich habe allerdings noch ein Tab, mit dem habe ich das mit dem QR Code speichern überhaupt erstmal getestet, ob das funktioniert. Von daher, ich hab ein Tab, bei mir reicht also das Bild. Hat man nur ein Handy, geb ich allen recht, am Besten dann Bild und Code speichern ;-) OFFLINE. Stimmt. Ist das neu? Vielleicht habe ich das vor einigen Monaten, als ich das so gemacht habe, auch nur nicht gefunden? Dann sehe ich jetzt auch nur noch die Notwendigkeit der Zeichenfolge für die Browserversion.
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Would pay 0 ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Most probably because you have so many posts with only some words. Not really useful. And im not sure what the foreign language says. So its probably hard to determine if the posts are worth something as advertisement.
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Ich speichere mir das QR Bild ab, schön mit Accountname, auf einen USB Stick und dann ab in den Safe.
Kannst du auch machen. Ist auf jeden Fall einfacher da man den Code einfach mit dem neuen Smartphone einscannen kann. Ich bevorzuge aber die Zeichenfolge weil man dann selbst eingeben kann wie der Name des Profils im Authenticator steht. Ich denke falls jemand mein Handy hat könnte das noch mal ein wenig sicherer sein wenn er nicht weiß zu welcher Seite das gehört. Aber ist vermutlich nicht wirklich nötig. *g*
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Hello, I just want to ask in which date the first week count will end. Is it today or the next Tuesday? Sorry if it is stated already. Thanks! BR Gondel
Posts are already being counted. 30% complete atm. Once counted, it will be forwarded to devthdev who will release the funds. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) When's the post counts update? It's updated every hour or once in a day? And where can i see the post counting? You can watch it live happening here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_RyLrCa3saxwHPz8mgPuNlV8ewuX7RlC15ZUQRVp99w/edit#gid=743481789 on sheet 3 I saw it a hour ago or so. Unfortunately 2 of the 4 links of my user details are wrong so the user working on that claimed i have zero posts. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Ah, Thanks. You have zero post count because in list "Post count" the username is changed lol The user id is one number smaller than my own. Its the same on the other tab. The profile id is correct but the stats link shows another member. So on each tab there is one time the correct id in a link and one time the id one below me. Dont know how this happened.
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Hello, I just want to ask in which date the first week count will end. Is it today or the next Tuesday? Sorry if it is stated already. Thanks! BR Gondel
Posts are already being counted. 30% complete atm. Once counted, it will be forwarded to devthdev who will release the funds. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) When's the post counts update? It's updated every hour or once in a day? And where can i see the post counting? You can watch it live happening here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_RyLrCa3saxwHPz8mgPuNlV8ewuX7RlC15ZUQRVp99w/edit#gid=743481789 on sheet 3 I saw it a hour ago or so. Unfortunately 2 of the 4 links of my user details are wrong so the user working on that claimed i have zero posts. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Too bad. I think price might drop again in the next hours but i think it will go upwards for the next days. Leverage would be nice. I trust kraken more than bitfinex at the moment. But i will think about bitfinex then.
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1. We lost our prime developer 2. We can't break turing test on poker stars and from last year they change policy (now is more anti-bot then before).
Sounds like some really important infos you should mention when you sell it. It doesn't work on the site you used it on anymore, so the promised profits are very unsure, and it seems you can't run it yourself anymore because of missing coding skills. Which means the new owner needs to be able to code. In my opionion you really only will have a chance of selling if it works and you can prove it. Maybe with a video. Otherwise buyer would buy the "pig in a poke".
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newbie asks 2800 dollars for a script? thats insane price did your really think someone was going to buy it from you?
TBH We expect more. It was 3 years work of 3 people (I do it full-time). If You start playing with this script you will get more then 3k$ in 1 month. If you can break security of poker stars You probably will win over 30k$ in 1 month. But as I say - I don't recommend playing on sites which poker-bot is not allowed. Sounds legit... not. So you could earn the selling price in one month by yourself. Or even 10 times more. That means the price you sell this script for would be brought in by playing 3 days only with it. You need to bring up a very good explaination for this to expect someone will bid. At the moment i suspect that you cant really use that bot in casinos since it gets detected. You guys couldnt find a way to code around it so the theoretical profits are only theoretical. Only my theory. But you need a very good explaination regarding that price.
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