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4381  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's up with Covid and Bitcoiners? on: July 11, 2022, 03:29:21 PM
I don't accept opinions. Show me some evidence. I've asked anti-vaxxers on this board countless times for a single shred of evidence; they always respond with nothing.

I believe that you only accept your opinion and the opinion of those who think like you, and that you will not take into account any scientific work that is not in accordance with your beliefs. Considering that you Americans have a very low opinion of other less valuable nations, I don't know if you will consider the research of a scientist who did not graduate from a prestigious US university. Pfizer has taken over his research and as far as I know, has not bothered to comment anything until today.

https://www.irb.hr/Zavodi/Zavod-za-molekularnu-biologiju/Laboratorij-za-evolucijsku-genetiku-LEG/Zaposlenici/Tomislav-Domazet-Loso
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4425/13/5/719/htm
4382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2022, 03:10:24 PM

https://twitter.com/fuxianyi

The one-child policy has obviously succeeded, who would have thought that the Chinese population had decreased so much?
4383  Other / Meta / Re: [Merit] Legendary To Newbies Distribution Concern & Problem! on: July 11, 2022, 02:34:09 PM
There are no rules that say Legendary ranks should send their merits to a certain rank, or what percentage of merits they should send to newbies. The only criterion for awarding merit should be a good and high-quality post, although each member of this forum has created his own criteria over time and quality is not something that is decisive in that decision.

Maybe the admin should have created the merit system in such a way that it prevented Legendary from getting merits from the same rank, or the max amount of merits should have been set to 1000, although that would have opened some other issues in the distribution of merits.

As for Altcoin boards, the forum long ago admitted defeat regarding spam and scams in that part of the forum, and I'm just one of many who don't want to participate in it, at least by rewarding newbies who hunt for bounty prizes there. I hope that we send the message so clearly, and some who understand it will be rewarded for it in other parts of the forum where they can actually learn something and become part of the community.
4384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whole coiner status in 10+ years on: July 11, 2022, 01:58:32 PM
What do you think it it will mean to have an entire bitcoin as we truly hit the depths of supply shock. That moment when there is no turning back from terms like "Store of value" and many products are then denominated in Bitcoin?

I don't think anything will change too much in 10 years in terms of how important it will be if you have 1 BTC today and then because even though the value in fiat currency could increase significantly, $20k today and $200k in 10 years could have the same or similar purchasing power. The idea that fiat currencies, regardless of their form (paper, CBDC or something else), will stop playing a significant role in society is very unlikely, as well as the fact that everyone will accept Bitcoin as a means of payment, considering that we are going in a completely different direction and the opinion is increasingly being formed that we should treat it as digital gold.

In 10 years, 99% of all Bitcoins will be mined, and millions will probably be in the possession of various companies and rich individuals who will certainly not treat it as a currency - and the average Joe will not be able to resist selling the last satoshi because the price will be irresistible.
4385  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Show off your hardware wallet on: July 11, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
...and the S Plus is twice as cheap.

I paid about $90 for the X, and the S Plus is now about $80, so in retrospect, I don't think I did a bad job when I bought it at 35% off. I considered it a long-term investment in security, and I still think it's a very good device, although I would have acted differently if I had known how careless Ledger is with its users' data.
4386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's up with Covid and Bitcoiners? on: July 11, 2022, 01:28:12 PM
Stop with the strawmen, please. I've never once blindly accepted anything that pharmaceutical companies claim. I'm evaluating the insurmountable mountain of evidence which shows that vaccines are one of the safest and most effective therapies in healthcare.

A man who works in the medical profession defends the indefensible, so how is it possible that in less than 1 year a vaccine can be invented, tested, produced and declared safe if any other drug requires at least 5 years of clinical research? I'm not talking about vaccines in general, but about specific vaccines that are released to the general population without serious clinical research being conducted on them.

Anyone who believes some barely literate anti-vax conspiracy nut with absolutely no supporting evidence, data, studies, trials, meta-analyses, over the mountain of scientific evidence, hundreds of thousands of trials, and billions of data points, proving vaccines are safe and effective, is a moron. This applies equally to all walks of life. For example, anyone who believes that the Earth is flat in the face of the unequivocal evidence to the contrary is a moron. Anyone who rejects hard evidence without anything to support their opinion other than "This is what I think" is a moron.

That's the problem of you and others like you, you don't accept anything that doesn't work in your favor, regardless of who it is and how good the research is. Never in history has there been so much ignoring of any criticism and questioning that comes from the other side - I'm not surprised that you use the term "morons", because more or less all governments and influential individuals use it to shame those who oppose their treatment as experimental rats.



That's very crucial, I ought to say. To clarify, I'm not against vaccinations. I'm against mandatory vaccinations. I've taken 2 doses and had no problem. During the second quarantine (mid-2021), I observed some unconstitutional attitude from the government; the elders were forced to do the vaccine, otherwise they had to pay some hundreds of euros every month, which is when I started getting concerned.

I'm also not against vaccinations, but only with vaccines that have been tested according to medical standards and can be considered safe. When you see how far they were ready to go in restricting human freedoms, up to physical violence in certain parts of the world (especially Australia), then it is clear to you that illness alone cannot be the reason given the very low mortality rate. I didn't have to pay the state because I wasn't vaccinated, but they forbade me to enter all public institutions, and like our colleagues, they called me a moron at every possible opportunity, whether it was politicians, doctors or officials working in state/public institutions.

At the same time, sick people with covid passports are walking around and spreading the virus, which turned out to be a completely failed measure - but if you have a piece of paper on which it says that you received the vaccine, you are considered desirable in society, regardless of the fact that the vaccinated also transmit the virus to the same extent as unvaccinated.
4387  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's up with Covid and Bitcoiners? on: July 11, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
Anti-vaxxers are still morons.

I would call people who have such an opinion a name that I don't even want to write, because if you think that someone is a moron because he doesn't want to introduce something potentially dangerous into his body to protect himself from a disease that for the younger population (up to 50 years old) has a rate of mortality rate less than 1%, then that says enough about you. Critical thinking is what makes science relevant, not blind acceptance of what companies like Pfizer or Moderna claim.

Given that you are an American and that it is US companies that have amassed a fortune on vaccines, I am even less surprised by your attitude. If in 4-5 years those who have been vaccinated start to get sick from some other diseases, it will be a much worse pandemic than the one we have now.
4388  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Show off your hardware wallet on: July 11, 2022, 10:31:46 AM
I would never go for the Nano X over the older Nano S. Looking at how good my Nano S has served me in all these years, I didn't make a mistake when I bought it.

Given that I own both models (S&X), I can say that the X is a much better device for me personally because it has a much larger screen, storage that does not limit the user with the number of installed apps or the size of the new firmware, and better quality construction compared to the S. If you had the chance to try it, I believe you would change your mind.

I was never a fan of the Nano Xs Bluetooth feature or the battery and we can see the problems the battery has caused with the latest batches. The Nano S Plus seems better to me than the X if it weren't for the missing support for a whole bunch of assets. Not that I need that support because I have very few altcoins, but just the idea that they forgot to add it or didn't do it intentionally to be able to release it as soon as possible, gives me a bad feeling and makes me question what else they might have forgotten or intentionally left out? 

The Bluetooth option is anyway only for those who want to use HW on the go in combination with a smartphone and does not represent any security or any other problem for those who use the X in a classic way - while I never had any problems with the battery. I can't say anything specific about the S Plus because I'm honestly not interested, but it's just an upgraded version of the S and I honestly doubt it's better than the X in any way.
4389  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bear markets are for building on: July 11, 2022, 10:04:54 AM
A bear market is generally an opportunity, although only those who know how the market works understand this, so they invest at the best moment, while the majority believe that it is not the time for any investments. We can say that this is one of the reasons why the rich become even richer, and the poor mostly remain poor.

Should we or can we change it at all? I think that people should figure out for themselves what is best for them, and if they don't figure it out despite all the possible information available to them, they will miss the opportunity to secure at least a slightly brighter future for themselves. I am not referring exclusively to Bitcoin, which is still incomprehensible and complicated for many, but to any kind of investment. Many people will say that they would rather have $100 in their wallet than risk losing it, which in some cases is the right way of thinking considering the number of scams.

When you build something, you have to make sure that you have a solid foundation, because without that, it's only a matter of time before everything collapses.
4390  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's up with Covid and Bitcoiners? on: July 11, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
There are plenty of anti-vax morons and conspiracy quacks around. The cryptocurrency community is large enough that it will have roughly the same proportion of morons and quacks as the general population.

Calling people who are against mandatory vaccination with experimental vaccine morons is just proof that people like you don't think for themselves and let others think for them. If I'm not mistaken, you are a doctor or you work in the medical profession, so you can better understand the research conducted on vaccines by independent experts who constantly warn about the possible harmful consequences of vaccination in the long term.

Covid 19 is a disease that has critical (fatal consequences) in less than 2% of cases, and mostly people over 65 who already have a chronic disease die. No one disputes that the disease exists, but compared to cancer, heart attack and stroke, it has an almost harmless mortality rate, especially for the younger population.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
4391  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: How I Almost Gave Scammers Access To My wallet This Morning. on: July 10, 2022, 03:39:33 PM
Have come to the conclusion that staying away from telegram + keeping pvk/seed phrase actually private roots out most of scams.

Telegram is just a means of communication that has some flaws that scammers take advantage of, but it is actually the fault of naive users who communicate with unknown people or are convinced that they are communicating with someone who is legitimate. Therefore, I would say that you should always be 100% on your guard, and in addition, never keep all your coins in a hot wallet, which will prevent a major accident from happening, even if at some point we lose our guard.

I can't remember if it was related to MetaMask, but I know that some guy lost a large amount of money because he did something stupid at one point (before or after sleeping) and it was a programmer or something like that. Everyone can have a moment of weakness, but it is not nuclear physics to have at least two crypto wallets where one is secured and a little more difficult to access.
4392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 10, 2022, 03:10:11 PM


Finland to NATO, Sanna to concert🎸 Cool
4393  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox finally going to distribute 137,000 BTC sometime next month on: July 10, 2022, 02:50:32 PM
If there is an option to pay in fiat, I believe that many will choose it because it is easier for them, or they simply do not want to have anything to do with Bitcoin. I completely understand these people considering how much time has passed and that each of them wants to finish it as soon as possible.

If it finally happens that the payouts start, I don't think it can have too much of an impact on the price considering that the payouts will probably go gradually, that a good part will be paid out in fiat, and that some will certainly keep what they get in Bitcoin. No matter how it ends, the whole case is, from a time perspective, a great shame for the Japanese system, which has proven to be quite incapable of solving it within a reasonable time frame.
4394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: According to Sam Bankman-Fried, some Bitcoin exchanges are insolvent on: July 10, 2022, 01:44:25 PM
Sam Bankman-Fried has declared that they have a few billion to help cryptocompanies that are struggling with their cashflow. This is very good news because when a big company begins helping small companies as a gateway to own them, this might be the first indicator that we are on the bottom of the bear market hehehehe.

It's his business move, but I think it's a bigger shame (in the long term) to save such companies than to let them fail. If these companies are saved, they will become even bigger over time, and with regard to their business policies and greed, the next market crash will result in them dragging down much more of the clients' money than is the case now.

As for the bottom, I would like you to be right, but there are too many who are still calling for a new crash in the zone below $15k, and the situation on the world markets does not look good, with the prospect of even bigger drops in Q4, and a very bad start of the new year.
4395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's up with Covid and Bitcoiners? on: July 10, 2022, 01:20:21 PM
Since the beginning of the pandemic, I've noticed lots of people, including Bitcoiners, be against vaccines, quarantine, Covid in general.

If someone is pro-Bitcoin, I don't see any particular reason why he/she should automatically be a supporter of vaccinations and all other measures that limit human rights and freedoms. I personally did not get vaccinated and got over the virus without any consequences, but I was never against people getting vaccinated if they wanted to - but I am absolutely against forcing people to get vaccinated so that they can enter a public institution or come to their working place.

People have different theories about the vaccine, but the fact is that it is still experimental and its long-term consequences are unknown, and that Covid-19 is a disease with a very low mortality rate compared to other diseases that take tens of millions of lives every year.

What I don't understand, and I'm all ears, is the arguments. Why is it tyranny? And even if it is, how's supposed a society cope with a virus? Even if we assume it comes from a lab, isn't deadly, enriches vaccine companies and the like. It concerns me, because rational people whom I've learnt a lot from don't go quite well with this.

The measures that were implemented turned out to be completely unjustified, such as covid passports for those vaccinated and those who have recovered from the virus, because they could go anywhere and do anything based on a piece of paper that could not possibly be a guarantee that someone was healthy - and such people contributed the most to the spread of the virus. In addition, now that it's summer, there are no measures, as the virus continues to spread and mutate, and at the end of the summer, new measures and restrictions will begin. It is completely wrong to fight the virus only during autumn and winter, because the virus is there all the time.

What I want to say is that moderate measures should be in force all year round, instead of having lockdowns, forced vaccinations and dividing people into those who can live normally and those who become enemies of society during autumn and winter.
4396  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question for Legendary Members on: July 10, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
I first heard about Bitcoin sometime in late 2011, but at that time few people even understood what it was about, and then the whole thing (at least to me personally) seemed like something that would not last long. It wasn't until a few years later that I became more seriously interested in Bitcoin, so even though I missed some time, I'm not sorry because it's never too late to learn.



Not all. Most of them do not even know how to secure their wallets 🤣

This refers to old-era Legendary accounts because back then there was no merit and you could reach that rank even if you were making posts in Off-topic all the time. These people came to make money and eventually became Legendary, but unfortunately they learned almost nothing along the way.
4397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could become the gold of 21th century? on: July 10, 2022, 10:34:39 AM
Proof of work-> Gold is difficult to mine, as you have to organize human resources + machinery to mine it. Once extracted, it is necessary to provide for the logistics and control of the gold.

True, when it comes to industrial mining, it is a very expensive and dirty business, whether it is surface mining or mines, it requires a lot of money, manpower and time. However, ordinary people search for gold only with metal detectors or by washing on river/sea shores.

Bitcoin is inefficient as layer 1 if we look at it as a payment system. For this, we are working on solutions like Lightning Network (layer 2) - but that's not the main point.

Bitcoin is incomparably more efficient than gold in the payment system, and it works quite well even without LN - the problem is with users who don't want to think but want everything to be automatic - but if you know how to properly set the fee in relation to mempool, the transaction will be confirmed in a reasonable time. In addition, any transaction that does not have an RBF can be accepted without confirmation, especially if it is for smaller amounts.

Mining Bitcoin is already difficult today, it will become increasingly difficult over time -> This is an important analogy with Gold. Both are difficult and will be increasingly difficult to extract.

Partly true, because Bitcoin has a max supply and we know that by the end of this decade 99% will be mined, while there are undefined amounts of gold on our planet, not to mention outside of it.

The first country that will take mining seriously by meeting the various mining farms, and finding efficient mining solutions, could increase its economic capacity.
What if the US regulates crypto and declares Bitcoin a store of value? Basically, it doesn't have an ICO, there are no teams behind it, and there isn't an owner.

So didn't El Salvador do just that - Bitcoin is legal tender and they mine it with the help of geothermal energy? What if the US declares Bitcoin illegal, closes all crypto exchanges and demands the same measures from its allies? Don't believe that the US could ever go so far and give such legitimacy to Bitcoin when they don't allow a regular spot ETF that is available in many other countries around the world.
4398  Other / Meta / Re: Hai mate, i need some advice regarding reporting spammers to moderators on: July 10, 2022, 09:57:44 AM
I don't understand why this report is tagged bad while the mod combines two posts in a row into one post. Is it because there are double reports or is there some other problem?

Moderators are people who make mistakes, so even if the report is visibly handled as good, its status can be wrongly marked as bad. I don't have a lot of bad reports, but at least a third of them are due to the moderator's mistake when they marked the report as bad, when in fact it was handled positively. Reports of the same post from different users will never result in only the first report being marked as good and the others as bad, but they will all be automatically marked equally.

For a specific case, you can also contact the moderator who is a handled post, because in the case of a merged post, you can see who exactly edited that post. I'm not sure if anyone except admin/global mod can change the status of reports, but recently it happened to me that the report was corrected from bad to good without me asking for any intervention.
4399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can anyone reccomend solid bitcoin\crypto channels to learn and get latest info? on: July 09, 2022, 02:57:34 PM
I am not interested in trading but to be alert in current events. I know about BTC since 2011 though.

If you really think that someone is posting some important information about Bitcoin on social networks, then you have not learned anything in the past 11 years. You can read everything important that is happening on this forum, and considering that you are not interested in trading, the speed of obtaining information should not be too important to you.

Maybe you should look at the selection of various apps for smartphones that, in addition to the price, also have news aggregators so that you can always be up to date with what is happening. However, sometimes it can be quite irritating because you will be bombarded 24/7 with a bunch of news that will not have much sense and meaning.
4400  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Hopefully someone can help on: July 09, 2022, 02:41:33 PM
Good afternoon, recently I came into possession of 4 "Antminer" devices and to be honest I dont know anything about them and I am honestly just looking to sell them.

in all honesty they were delivered to me about 4 months ago on accident. the shipper was contacted multiple times they picked them up multiple times and kept bringing them back

I find this story of yours quite unconvincing, because it's hard to believe that someone can deliver something to you, even though it's more than obvious that it doesn't belong to you. Such valuable packages are not driven around without proper documentation and without a tracking number and delivered to random addresses. I would never receive such a package, and every honest person would do the same, so let the company that delivers the packages deal with that problem.

It's up to you to decide what to do, but I would personally return it to the company that delivered it with a written request that the package not be delivered to you anymore because it doesn't belong to you.
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