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4381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 16, 2023, 03:39:18 PM
Now they need a few things to rebalance the attack and to play big clubs like this straight away is of course pretty good.
Milan, Juventus, Manchester United and of course the last match I'm waiting for the first El Clasico with Barcelona.
Even if the format this time is only a friendly match, it will still be very interesting because no matter if it is an official match in a competition or a friendly, the tension is still the same because both have high prestige so the tension will definitely rise.

Speaking of El Clasico, Barcelona are now without their plauer golden era as players have left. Benzema and Lewandowski's rivalry was very short-lived, now we need to find candidates for player rivalry to heat up the El Clasico atmosphere even more  Roll Eyes.
Regarding the rivalry, currently Real Madrid doesn't have a mainstay striker like Benzema, so Lewandowski is likely to regain the position for La Liga top scorer in the new season. Because previously he also succeeded in become the top scorer with 23 goals, but it would be interesting if Joselu could show his quality as a main striker, considering that previously he was also the top scorer with 16 goals.
Benzema's departure does make for less competition up front, as you say it might make it easier for Lewandowski to win La Liga's top scorer again. But apart from that, I expect Real Madrid to surprise us, they only have Joselu, who has been in doubt, but they also have youngsters like Rodrygo, who was given the nod last season to pick up where he left off up front. Now the burden is on Joselu's shoulders, depending on whether he can give something to expect or not.

Logically, we're bound to have doubts about what El Real have, but they usually answer them if they're doubted.
4382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 16, 2023, 03:24:20 PM
What I'm looking forward to now is the pre-season games that the big clubs will have, especially those who will be in the Champions League next season. For me pre-season matches are very important to measure and test the strategies they will apply in the competition later, also I want to see the game of new players who have just joined the club club.
In pre-season matches, all strengths will be tried, including seeing the ability of players who will be the second tier later, who knows they will be able to show a good game and eventually be able to penetrate the main squad.
If you look at the pre-season matches, most of the pre-season matches won't be serious and only the second tier are sent down to play not in the main squad, maybe that's what makes me lazy to watch pre-season matches, even though that can measure the strength of a club, they won't compete seriously and only compete according to their abilities and do not want to show the quality of the club's abilities.

I also, if there is a pre-season match bet, maybe I won't bet because I know the results will be difficult to predict and might hurt myself, but I like watching pre-season matches, even if it's just for entertainment, no problem, but never bet on matches. preseason. because it would be very risky with a match like that.  Wink
Likewise, if there were any pre-season bets, I would avoid them, as it would be a huge risk betting on a match where the club would not be giving their all, but simply gauging the strength of the team. For me it's not wise to bet on matches like that.



Yes that is another goal of the pre-season tour, to give playing minutes for young players to show their potential and become an adaptation ground for new players. in addition to promotion and expanding the support base for the pre-season tour, it can become a standard for coaches to determine the main squad for next season. On the other hand, it provides time off for regular players to rest and take vacations before the new season starts.

AC Milan, Barcelona, Man United and Real Madrid who will play in the Champions League next season, are on their pre-season tour of America. If you want to see the complete pre-season schedule for each club, you can visit their official website. I'm looking forward to the end of the season's transfer window and the official start of the League to watch the new signings at these big clubs.
Will there be any surprises when the transfer window closes? I think so, because maybe they are now trying an unheard-of approach with the players they are targeting. Or even transfer news that until now has only been a rumor will become a reality before the transfer market ends.
I'm eager to see where the surprises really happen, especially for transfers that might break new records. One of them might be Mbappe for example, or there are other surprising players like Osimhen, 2 players who are much talked about.
4383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 03:10:07 PM
Harry Kane can be considered a legend of Tottenham and the Premier League. Although only 29, the striker broke the record when he surpassed the legendary Jimmy Graves to become Tottenham's No. 1 scorer. Class is like that, but unfortunately, Kane has not yet won a collective title in his career. He needs to look for trophies before his peak is over quickly. The British striker's biggest goal will still be to have a specific throne in his career. It would be too harsh if Harry Kane did not win any titles in the near future. It's time for him to leave Tottenham and find a club to help him do it.
Perhaps we have a different idea from Harry Kane about the title that many players want. I wonder if he doesn't really want the title so much that he is so loyal to stay at Tottenham for years, because if he wants he can actually find a club that can give him a title that many players want. He's a good player, we can't deny that, but it's unfortunate if he never gets a prestigious title during his career. There's something to be said for that, because it's not ambition but it's a form of wanting something.

He could go to Real Madrid for example if he pressures Tottenham to sell him. But it seems loyalty trumps all and he is comfortable at Tottenham despite not winning titles.
4384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 16, 2023, 12:17:12 PM
First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.
in the long run 3 - 4 seasons maybe Bayern Munich will dominate the bundesliga but after that there are no guarantees. I know that for now no one can compete and shift Bayern Munich's position because every transfer window opens, Bayern Munich always gets the best players who have reliable talent. on the one hand, Bayern Munich's finances support getting reliable players every season.
maybe in the last season Dortmund was able to shift Munich's position but I will never forget that Dortmund was one of the teams that prioritized recruiting young players and developing their talents to become stronger and sell them. so there is no hope whatsoever for Dortmund.
All possibilities are still there, as long as they have the desire to be a competitor of Bayern Munich. at this time they also definitely want to be a competitor of Bayern Munich, but what I mean is that they must have a serious desire to make it all happen. want alone is not enough to be able to shift the dominance held by Bayern Munich at this time, they need to take real action with improvements for example or something like that.
Borussia Dortmund for example, if they don't sell many of their quality players then I'm sure they will be able to be at the same level, or even better than Bayern Munich.
4385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 12:02:05 PM
I would rather say the Saudi league are bringing in former best players who were at a time the best players to have played in Europe league. They’re not bringing in current best players who are still at their prime now, maybe they won’t want to join since they’re still valued at their teams and in Europe.

Even the addition of this past great players have added value to their league, I just imagine how many popularity and recognition the league will get more when young and talented players at their peak level joins the league.
It's true that the saudi league did that and I don't think it's a problem because they signed a former European star player who already has great experience in various competitions. Moreover, even though most of them are former European star players, the exposure resulting from their big names is clearly felt for the popularity of the Saudi league and therefore this is like a mutually beneficial collaboration. I think other leagues that have large investment funds need to imitate the Saudi league way of starting to introduce their league so that it can be better known by outsiders.
It was a move made by them to attract younger players to join them. If they directly target a player at his golden age, it is clear that the player will prefer Europe for his career. But when they target players who are older and approaching retirement age with a large amount of money, then they will be easier to convince. But the point here is that their first move opens the door for other players. I don't know the exact number of European-labeled players that have joined them, but I do know that it's quite a lot.

It's about capital, because I also want to know if they're going to continue this program in the long term or not.
Their management of finances must be well managed, the slightest mistake will make it difficult for them. I'm just thinking realistically with the money they spend so much.

I believe they have a good business in Arabia, but they shouldn't get too carried away with it. About finances I mean because again the money they need is not a small amount of money to do everything they are doing right now.
4386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 11:35:25 AM
Brentford have sold Halil dervişoğl to galatasaray.Halil has dual citizenship so galatasaray will be able to use him well.
West ham transferred Declan Rice to arsenal for 116.60 million euros with a record transfer fee.Arsenal must have a plan to spend that kind of money on a midfielder.They have spent a lot of money and it will be sad for them if they don't get their money's worth. We can say that they have given 226 million euros in the transfer period so far.30 million euros of fee income from the players who left.They added Jurrien Timber from Ajax for 40 million euros.We can say that they have been more generous to the defense this time.
Arsenal in recent seasons have always made transfer moves that can contribute to them, and this season they did it again even at a higher price. You are right that if the money they spend can't give them what they want then it will be very sad, but on the other hand I quite believe Arteta brings in players with what he needs only, and in this case he is ready to spend a lot of money as long as the players he is eyeing can join the squad.


The speculated clubs I have seen about de Gea to be signed by are Fenerbahçe and Saudi Arabian clubs. If Fenerbahçe had enough funds or leaned towards signing de Gea despite his demands then maybe he would have thought of that option seriously. However it is said that his wage demand will be more than 10 million euros and in addition to that he will demand at least 8 million euros as signing-on fee for himself. This is too much for Fenerbahçe considering the average sum they pay to their players.

As a result I will be expecting him to sign for a Saudi Arabian club. Who knows how attracting conditions they will offer to him to finish this deal quickly.
Saudi Arabian clubs if they want a player, they will not hesitate to make a high offer no matter even higher than his current market price. Fenerbache do have an interest in David de Gea, but whether they will be able to afford what de Gea wants is still the question.
But for me it is natural that de Gea wants the price as you mentioned, the article in the game he is also still very good and fairly will last long with his age.

I heard Al Nassr is interested in signing David de Gea, but I have not received clear confirmation of this information. If that happens then I feel he will be happy because he will be back in the same team with Ronaldo.
4387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 16, 2023, 11:20:08 AM
What I'm looking forward to now is the pre-season games that the big clubs will have, especially those who will be in the Champions League next season. For me pre-season matches are very important to measure and test the strategies they will apply in the competition later, also I want to see the game of new players who have just joined the club club.
In pre-season matches, all strengths will be tried, including seeing the ability of players who will be the second tier later, who knows they will be able to show a good game and eventually be able to penetrate the main squad.
4388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 16, 2023, 09:43:46 AM
More than anything we are waiting to see the performance of PSG for the next season after they started working with Enrique because, unlike the last seasons, PSG got a good coach who knows how to win a game. Also, this time PSG is not going to spend money to just buy top-level and famous players, instead they stick to Enrique's plan.
It's definitely worth watching PSG's opening match in Ligue 1 in August and I can't wait to place my bet on PSG's first win. Smiley

On the other hand, there is no doubt that Luis Enrique's expertise can certainly make PSG better without dependence on top players. At the moment we will still see Neymar and Mbappe as the remaining star players (unless neither leave this summer) and we will see refreshments on all fronts with the arrival of other experienced players and young talent. Maybe I don't have to worry about the coordination of the players later on the field so that the series of attacks or defenses will be tighter.
Kylian Mbappe and Neymar's contracts still have a few years left and I'm sure Paris SG won't lose their place in the bundesliga anytime soon.
Luis Enrique is a man who is experienced in football, although not very good, but after I saw Luis Enrique, he has a very good strategy and goals so that Paris SG's position will not change or other clubs that cannot compete with him.
First, Mbappe's contract at PSG is only one season away.
Second, this is Ligue 1 not Bundesliga Wink

Enrique is indeed one of the good enough coaches especially when he was at Barcelona but of course there are other factors that cannot be released.
PSG has always had a tendency with coaches losing out to players in terms of dominance. It's a bit bad if in the end Enrique's arrival is just like the previous coaches who seemed to lose to the players. On the other hand, Enrique must try to make some things in communication better for PSG because looking at the last few seasons their problems still seem the same in communication that does not really go well.
4389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 16, 2023, 08:43:08 AM
Napoli are working on a contract extension for Osimhen. He has drawn the attention to himself quite much after his amazing performance in the previous season. But as his cost is going to be quite high for the other teams interested in signing him I don't know if any team would make an official offer. Napoli must be asking for at least 130 million euros.

His salary is nothing for a player like him now and this gives Napoli an advantage to convince him for an extension. I assume he would demand a couple of million euros rise in his salary and I would expect Napoli to accept that. As he has 2 years left there Napoli had better secure his future there.
Some rumors say Napoli will release Osimhen for 150 million or some other sources say Napoli wants 180 million, but it is unclear and unconfirmed because usually the media will exaggerate the news a little.
Osimhen is an important player in the Napoli squad, especially when he was a player who contributed a lot to their title win last season. It's only natural that Napoli would want a high price for a player who has played well.
Napoli seem to be between a rock and a hard place, I mean whether they want to sell him or keep him. Because if they sell it, they will benefit from the sale, but they will lose a player who has a bright future. On the other hand, if they keep him then they won't make a profit, but they will still have a very good player in the squad.

Yeah there is such rumour as well. But how many teams would like to pay 150 million euros or over that price for Osimhen now? There are surely quite many teams that can afford him. However when it comes to the will to afford him I don't see that many teams. It is even said that the only interested team now is PSG to pay that much.

PSG are working on Vlahovic deal behind the scenes as well though. If they decide to sign him instead then I will believe in Osimhen to stay at Napoli this summer surely. But in case he doesn't still extend his contract in this season and has one year left on his contract then Napoli will really have to sell him to not lose him without transfer fee.
Even then on condition that PSG lose Mbappe this season because if they don't lose Mbappe they won't push too hard actually.
As for PSG and Dusan Vlahovic, I think this will get stumbled especially now that rumors about Dusan being close to Chelsea are also getting bigger and Juventus wanting Lukaku is one of the strong reasons if Dusan will be a little difficult to PSG because Chelsea and Juventus both have certain intentions in exchanging their players.
But of course this will be interesting because player transfers will take a toll on each other and when the domino effect of Mbappe leaving indirectly Napoli may lose Osimhen and when Dusan leaves Juventus then Inter will accept defeat because it is certain that Lukaku leaves there as a means of exchanging Chelsea for Juventus.
4390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 16, 2023, 06:23:48 AM
If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.
Real Madrid have new great players and they surely will add to the strength of that team, and maybe also add variety in terms of formations which can use of Real Madrid coach, because sometimes a coach often do experiments on his players. So yes, although that match is a friendly match but it might be good reference because the coach will try several formations. Also, interesting is that they will be playing vs Manchester United, if i'm not mistaken it's been a long time not meet since they last match in 2018.
Now they need a few things to rebalance the attack and to play big clubs like this straight away is of course pretty good.
Milan, Juventus, Manchester United and of course the last match I'm waiting for the first El Clasico with Barcelona.
Even if the format this time is only a friendly match, it will still be very interesting because no matter if it is an official match in a competition or a friendly, the tension is still the same because both have high prestige so the tension will definitely rise.

Speaking of El Clasico, Barcelona are now without their plauer golden era as players have left. Benzema and Lewandowski's rivalry was very short-lived, now we need to find candidates for player rivalry to heat up the El Clasico atmosphere even more  Roll Eyes.
4391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 15, 2023, 07:04:34 PM
If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.
4392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 15, 2023, 06:44:37 PM

The coach must be firm, but at the same time the coach must also have a sense of family and nurture his players. It doesn't have to be excessive but at least make the player feel comfortable when working with a coach. Things like this seem simple, but it is precisely that simplicity that makes many ignored, even though when it can be done it will have a very positive impact on all elements of the player.
They must be able to distinguish in what circumstances they must be firm and in what circumstances they must blend in to create a close sense of family within the squad.
what is more certain is about fair policies. I mean if a coach has a wise and fair nature, this can be sympathetic to players to be close and open to the coach about all the weaknesses or strengths of their performance. they exchange ideas with each other to find solutions to be able to strengthen their team.
like Guardiola who has the wise nature of each of his players and he is also good at reading situations to be open to each other's evaluation of improving performance. and the result is perfect for me because Man City is proving to be stronger like last season because of coaches and players who can be solid.
Yes, that's right, and I don't think it's any different from what I was talking about before, and maybe it's just the way we deliver it that's different.
Players will definitely see the figure of a coach, there are players who follow whatever the coach says because they are afraid, some are out of respect. Maybe the result is the same because they will follow what the coach says, but what is different is the end result. Of course players who are afraid will not be better than players who are respectful, I mean a coach does not have to be feared by players, but they have to be a person that players respect.

Manchehster City managed to create chemistry between the players. I was reminded of one of the local clubs in my country, yes they did not get good results when they had a golden squad, but they could actually do something extraordinary when they had a fairly makeshift squad, I saw that because of the chemistry they created.
4393  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: July 15, 2023, 06:28:20 PM
Not every positive experience has to have a monetary reward is a good point. If we go back to the idea that everything has to be monetized, then we will never experience pleasure. I liken it to when we are on vacation for example, we will spend money and it will give us a reciprocal pleasure that we will not be able to feel in other things. Likewise with gambling, maybe some people will say it's just wasting money, but for those of us who seek pleasure in gambling it is a form of entertainment that we don't get in other things.
I like the concluding part, some of us gamble for fun, and it's not always about movies as movies and other entertaining means boring someone at times. I never read of gambling as fun in the forum when I discuss this last year, anyone could gamble for their peculiar reasons, but no matter the reasons we are doing it, let's use our brains and moderate everything. Someone like me that gamble for fun uses a little amount of money for it.

I will again like to also support you that fun might not be linked to money, but still, in that case, note that gambling is no more involved, you are just having fun with what you love doing.
Everyone has their reasons for gambling, I wouldn't fault them for it as it's their right, but keep it within limits. Also everyone has their own way of making themselves happy internally, and I think gambling for some people is to fulfill their pleasure internally.
Yes you are right, maybe some people will be satisfied with just watching a movie, and for some others may prefer to go out for a walk, and there are also those who just rest at home to fulfill their need for pleasure because they are too busy working outside the home.
It's all about how people enjoy it.
4394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 15, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
Napoli are working on a contract extension for Osimhen. He has drawn the attention to himself quite much after his amazing performance in the previous season. But as his cost is going to be quite high for the other teams interested in signing him I don't know if any team would make an official offer. Napoli must be asking for at least 130 million euros.

His salary is nothing for a player like him now and this gives Napoli an advantage to convince him for an extension. I assume he would demand a couple of million euros rise in his salary and I would expect Napoli to accept that. As he has 2 years left there Napoli had better secure his future there.
Some rumors say Napoli will release Osimhen for 150 million or some other sources say Napoli wants 180 million, but it is unclear and unconfirmed because usually the media will exaggerate the news a little.
Osimhen is an important player in the Napoli squad, especially when he was a player who contributed a lot to their title win last season. It's only natural that Napoli would want a high price for a player who has played well.
Napoli seem to be between a rock and a hard place, I mean whether they want to sell him or keep him. Because if they sell it, they will benefit from the sale, but they will lose a player who has a bright future. On the other hand, if they keep him then they won't make a profit, but they will still have a very good player in the squad.
Even if the rumors are true, I wouldn't be surprised if the fee was posted for an Osimhen and the fact is he really deserves the label. I don't think there is a loss for any club if they are interested in signing Osimhen because for sure the number of goals scored will increase with Osimhen. But as the team that has hosted Osimhen so far, Napoli certainly want him to last longer and for example a salary increase he really deserves.

But if before this summer closes there is a team that dares to make an offer at 150 million euros, I think Napoli must be willing to let him go and they don't need to be naive because Napoli also needs large funds for the club's finances to be stable or can be used to buy other talented players. There is so much profit to be made by selling Osimhen, but of course Napoli's priority is to keep Osimhen at the club.
Now it's just a matter of waiting to see if there is a club that can afford it because if you look at the current situation, only PSG has said they are ready to spend 150 million for Osimhen only on the condition that Mbappe leaves.
But if not then the chances of him staying are actually certain at least for this season.
There are positives and of course there are possibilities for negatives too in this case.
If Osimhen's performance is better or at least matches the performance in the last season then in this case he will be back in contention next season but when he fails to show his capacity then this is also a risk for Napoli so this will be a new task that is actually heavy for Rudi Garcia.
4395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? on: July 15, 2023, 01:19:23 PM
~snip~

I think that we should separate these two concepts - friendship and money. You can drink beer with a friend, go out, have fun, but never get involved in money matters.  Very often it happens that when friends share money they have disagreements that eventually lead to feuds. I learned this lesson in my school days, so I never do business with friends. Of course gambling is not a business, but these guys still had to share the money they won.
True, I wouldn't say it's a mistake, but it's better to avoid anything involving money with a friend or anyone else. Money is a very sensitive thing, believe me money will change everything, and even we will see someone's true nature when dealing with money. Maybe you've heard about these words "money is the sharpest relationship breaker". And that is indeed very true.
This is one of my personal experiences, (now we are on good terms again). At that time my friend was struggling and I tried to help, and when I needed it he antagonized me, even though, I spoke nicely.
4396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 15, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
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I mentioned here the extra power PSG management gave him to keep Mbappe at the club when he announced his move from PSG the previous season. Mbappe's power was such that if he didn't like a player, he could drop that player from the team and if he didn't get on well with the manager, he could also change the manager. But despite getting so much power, Mbappe is not staying at PSG. PSG management should understand at this point. If Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG there's no point in forcing him to the club he wants to leave let him go and get another decent player with his salary and see your team move forward nicely.
I've said that PSG only have two options for Mbappe. First PSG will try to make him stay with rational reasons and secondly sell him before his contract expires. PSG cannot let Mbappe go to another team on a free transfer, this is clearly very detrimental to them from a business perspective. While PSG must sell him to a team that is really able to offer a reasonable value because Mbappe is a top striker who is currently on the top list.

PSG cannot always force Kylian Mbappe to stay, but of course several other approaches can be made to persuade him to stay for the next few seasons. At least PSG still have plenty of time to make some efforts with Mbappe, but I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will eventually move on to another team.
Yes, they should do business now by selling Mbappe on the grounds that Mbappe will certainly not extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain. But this seems to be an obstacle for Paris Saint Germain, because they still really hope that Mbappe can be with them again and extend his contract.
Even if they don't get the price they want, but at least they don't release Mbappe for free.
I wonder what the management are really thinking at the moment, why they are still insisting on their will.
I don't mean to mock them, but that's how it is when the money they have can't be put to good use. Lol


By the way, for next season I hope there is a club that surprises in Ligue 1, I hope to see a club that will be able to shift the dominance from PSG, it will be a fun league if they can be more competitive and we don't just see one club that is very superior.
4397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 15, 2023, 12:50:57 PM
indeed Man United has regained its performance after Erik Ten Hag provided a good strategy and contribution from last season. but for me Man United doesn't need to look for a new striker because they don't have problems in the attacking line but need a reliable goalkeeper at this time like Onana. because if MU can't get a reliable goalkeeper, MU is a little less sure about competing in the champions league.
I'm not a Man United fan but I support MU if they immediately recruit Onana and sell De Gea
I can't even agree with you. Weghorst has been going back again to the burnley. MU has no good striker at this moment. How can you say that if manchester united doesn't even need a striker at this moment? The fact that if MU needs a new striker that can help to win the game and make as many goals as possible. Intermilan and atalanta have been refusing manchester united's offer at this moment. It's very hard for both of clubs to accept low offer from united. ETH needs to find another solution to get new goal keeper and striker with affordable price.
MU is a poor team now caused by it having no money to buy the new player and goal keeper. Ten hag needs to sell more players this season to add more funds to the club.
ETH needs to find some solutions for that. I meant MU must look at the cheap striker and goal keeper.
Well I agree with you, because after all Manchester United need a striker to add to their power in attack. I actually see that they can still rely on David de Gea rather than bringing in a new goalkeeper, but that is the decision of the coach so David de Gea must leave Old Trafford.
Last season, they were very lucky because Marcus Rashford could be a player in their attack, but in some matches, they really struggled. So they have to add at least one more striker for the upcoming season, because with the current squad, I think it is too risky.
I know ETH is a coach who brings good changes, but that doesn't mean we should be complacent and fully trust the strikers they have at the moment. So I think they should bring in another striker, I agree with you.
4398  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: July 15, 2023, 12:24:53 PM
The thrill of wagering, particularly on a game, evokes a distinct kind of memory of times past. Its almost like we're back in the playground, betting on which toy would win. Money has simply taken the place of playthings. The excitement is largely the same, however, so it makes sense.

Although, I do believe that money shouldnt be the driving force behind everything. Although wagering might add a bit of excitement, not every positive experience needs to have a monetary payoff. There are instances when the sheer excitement of competing might be more rewarding than the actual outcome. Of course, we must also remember the limitations of this strategy. There are greater risks and consequences when money is involved. Please dont lets lose sight of the fact that the primary purpose of gaming is entertainment.
Not every positive experience has to have a monetary reward is a good point. If we go back to the idea that everything has to be monetized, then we will never experience pleasure. I liken it to when we are on vacation for example, we will spend money and it will give us a reciprocal pleasure that we will not be able to feel in other things. Likewise with gambling, maybe some people will say it's just wasting money, but for those of us who seek pleasure in gambling it is a form of entertainment that we don't get in other things.
4399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 15, 2023, 12:10:20 PM
Napoli are working on a contract extension for Osimhen. He has drawn the attention to himself quite much after his amazing performance in the previous season. But as his cost is going to be quite high for the other teams interested in signing him I don't know if any team would make an official offer. Napoli must be asking for at least 130 million euros.

His salary is nothing for a player like him now and this gives Napoli an advantage to convince him for an extension. I assume he would demand a couple of million euros rise in his salary and I would expect Napoli to accept that. As he has 2 years left there Napoli had better secure his future there.
Some rumors say Napoli will release Osimhen for 150 million or some other sources say Napoli wants 180 million, but it is unclear and unconfirmed because usually the media will exaggerate the news a little.
Osimhen is an important player in the Napoli squad, especially when he was a player who contributed a lot to their title win last season. It's only natural that Napoli would want a high price for a player who has played well.
Napoli seem to be between a rock and a hard place, I mean whether they want to sell him or keep him. Because if they sell it, they will benefit from the sale, but they will lose a player who has a bright future. On the other hand, if they keep him then they won't make a profit, but they will still have a very good player in the squad.
4400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 15, 2023, 11:55:05 AM
I've almost forgotten about the Chinese League now because I'm enjoying following the latest developments in the Arab League, especially in player transfers. More interestingly, it's not just one, two, or 3 players, but they also bring in more than what I imagined. And it's not just one club doing it either, but those who have the money will not hesitate to hunt for players. Although there may be some players who are rumored and even I think it's a bit exaggerated with the price. But that's how a club with money does it. Lol


Haha we've forgotten about the Chinese League even one of the clubs is reportedly bankrupt, of course we don't want the same thing to happen to clubs in the Saudi League too pushy to bring in top players so that income does not match expenses, let's see how strong the clubs in this league are to bring in more top players. Reportedly 3-4 clubs in this league are owned by the same company which means all expenses will be financed by the company including 3-4 clubs I can't imagine how much money they have  Cheesy
Talking about the money in the Arab League, personally I don't doubt their ability financially. Many of the clubs in Europe are owned by wealthy Arabs, so I conclude that they are financially well-established clubs. Although it is rumored that some clubs have debt, but in my opinion it is still in a reasonable category, because in fact the big and fairly rich clubs in Europe also have debt. As long as it is not excessive and still within normal limits, it is valid. What is clear is that most Arab businesses that have an interest in football are successful in their business.
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