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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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July 15, 2023, 08:20:17 PM
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Even that is possible, I don't think Kylian Mbappe will be playing in the Arab Pro League at the peak of his career as he is now. Instead of playing in the Arab Pro League, I would expect him to play in the Premier League or La Liga for the next few seasons and win his first Champions League title. Kylian Mbappe is also eager to win individual trophies like the Ballon d'Or and others, so the chances of going to the Arab Pro League are currently very low.

I believe its best for Mbappe to move to Real Madrid; he had an amazing performance in the worldcup and also finished the season on a high with excellent performances but he is no where near balon d'or shouts after being overshadowed by Haaland treble win and Messi world cup win. A move to Arab means he is planning retirement soon haha

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July 15, 2023, 08:34:43 PM
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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.

I actually like the preseason fixture of Real Madrid. They will be facing Milan, Barcelona, Juventus, Manchester United. This is a really interesting preseason fixture. I know that no one actually cares about these club-friendly matches. But I want to see which young players they will play in these matches.

Almost all of the teams have brought in new players to the squad. It will be interesting to see if those players get a chance to play in the preseason matches. Arda is probably injured and I don’t know if he will be able to play in any preseason matches. Does anyone know what the injury situation is for him?

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July 15, 2023, 08:44:30 PM
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I believe its best for Mbappe to move to Real Madrid; he had an amazing performance in the worldcup and also finished the season on a high with excellent performances but he is no where near balon d'or shouts after being overshadowed by Haaland treble win and Messi world cup win. A move to Arab means he is planning retirement soon haha
If Kylian Mbappe decides to move from PSG to another team, then I have never doubted he will choose another team besides Real Madrid. Mbappe is known to have wanted to play for Real Madrid for a long time, but he has not moved on from PSG, which tied him to an expensive contract that was difficult to refuse. PSG may not be able to keep him around for much longer once his contract expires at the end of next season, but there is a possibility PSG will sell him to another team if they accept a reasonable offer.

Kylian Mbappe wants to win the Champions League title, and so far that plan seems perfectly achievable with Real Madrid. I also believe he can play for another top team in the Premier League, but so far Real Madrid seems to be his main objective.

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July 15, 2023, 09:13:44 PM
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I know it's difficult, but I hope they can do more than what they can do in the Europa League by doing better in the Champions League. They are the rulers of the Europa League, as you can see they have maintained and shown good dominance in the Europa League although we see the opposite when they are in La Liga.

Players are key, which means I see they must be more able to bring players who are mental in the Champions League, because when they play in the Champions League repeatedly they also fail to show their best.

I believe if they can find the right formula, they will be able to compete in the Champions League. and also they might join to enliven the competition in La Liga as they did in the previous 2 seasons.

What do you think the management should do, should they focus on bringing in star players for example, or are there other options that can make them improve? Like regenerating with young players or something like that?

To be honest I don't think Sevilla have enough finances to bring big names to the team. I know that they won the Europa League title which made them have some good sum of winnings on one hand. They must have earned near 20 million euros during their journey to the title. But it is still not good enough to make their finances way better.

Their squad actually consists of really good players. I don't think they need to make a big change. They became champions in the Europa League with the same players in the end. It is all about maintaining a good understanding of management.

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July 15, 2023, 09:14:25 PM
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The steps taken by Real Madrid are very appropriate not to be too hasty to catch up to Mbappe and it is better for Real Madrid to just watch the problem get over first. I think that even if Real Madrid came now to get Mbappe it would really make PSG a little arrogant and also of course they would not hesitate to increase the transfer fee for Mbappe because at the moment only Real Madrid can afford Mbappe. But if Real Madrid are patient enough to wait until next year, they won't spend a penny on Mbappe and that's where PSG will really feel the loss and regret it.
I think PSG will let Mbappe go in this transfer window so if Real madrid want to wait for Mbappe to end his contract next season that will never happen. On the one hand, Psg bought Mbappe at a fairly high price before so they don't want to lose Mbappe for nothing in the coming season. So, Real Madrid should be able to see the opportunities that exist to make an offer this month or next month if Real Madrid are really serious about getting Mbappe.

PSG management certainly hopes that Mbappe will not leave this summer and he must also sign a new contract extension. However, behind his good attitude PSG was not well received by Mbappe, so speculation arose about Mbappe's future in this transfer window. I hope Real Madrid can take a serious approach to Mbappe.

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July 15, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.
Why would he choose the Premier League to improve as he has offers from a major club like Real Madrid. Which English Premier League team do you consider to be better than Real Madrid? Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in the last season Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in just one season but Real Madrid have not been better team. Real Madrid is the best team of all time. A better team for Mbappe than the English Premier League would be La Liga's Real Madrid and if all goes well, he will definitely come to Real Madrid. Mbappé himself likes Real Madrid very much and he will indeed fulfill his dreams one by one at Real Madrid. A move to Real Madrid could be a good decision for Mbappe at the moment.

Real Madrid would also be ok as there is at least some competition in La Liga, but if he thrives to be competing on the highest level possibly every weekend, the Premier League would be the league to go for him. In terms of the fiercest competition during a whole season, I think La Liga is the second best choice. This does not mean that I believe Real Madrid isn't a strong team. They are a strong team, but the Premier League is the best most competitive league. Seeing Mbappe play against Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, I would like it. Real Madrid vs Barcelona and Atletico Madrid is also great to watch though.

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July 15, 2023, 09:24:07 PM
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Mbappe is an excellent player as evidenced by his national team performances. Mbappe had a great performance in the France jersey. Mbappe's performance in the World Cup also impressed everyone. But while Mbappe is a great player, he is a bit selfish. As if Mbappe's selfish gameplay had a negative impact on the team's overall performance.

I don’t seem to see a reason why you called Mbappe a selfish player. He’s a great player and a very good attacking player and also good at finishing and that gave him an edge over other players. It won’t make sense to call a player being selfish because he scores more goals than others but I don’t know where you draw your conclusion from. His performance has only contributed positively to both his national team and club side.
Kylian Mbappe is a forward player who's priority is to score as many goals as possible and sometimes he does need a beat of selfishness to perfect his scoring tricks. But that doesn't make him a serial selfish player.
We all saw what he did with the France national team in last year's FIFA World Cup tournament and how he was very close to making the most important comeback in football history.
Mbappe surely has his own shortcomings as a player but certainly not to be tagged "selfish"

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July 15, 2023, 09:31:07 PM
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Mbappe is an excellent player as evidenced by his national team performances. Mbappe had a great performance in the France jersey. Mbappe's performance in the World Cup also impressed everyone. But while Mbappe is a great player, he is a bit selfish. As if Mbappe's selfish gameplay had a negative impact on the team's overall performance.
I don’t seem to see a reason why you called Mbappe a selfish player. He’s a great player and a very good attacking player and also good at finishing and that gave him an edge over other players. It won’t make sense to call a player being selfish because he scores more goals than others but I don’t know where you draw your conclusion from. His performance has only contributed positively to both his national team and club side.
These are just accusations from certain parties who allege that Mbappe is arrogant, especially when he wants to score his own goals and doesn't provide passes for other players. But in fact, this is not always true, how often does Mbappe do this? What's more, this is just the assumption of certain people who may not like him, so you can't make an estimate. Because this has certainly been done by other players. In this case, regardless of anything, Mbappe is an extraordinary player, who can take a high burden on the team.

What's more, his desire to move to La Liga, e Real Madrid has been there for a long time. And now is the time for him to make it happen. Indeed, this might be quite difficult for him because of a number of things like what happened a few seasons ago where there was some intervention from certain parties. But this time, Mbappe should have found his own way and achieved what he had dreamed of all this time.

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I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.
Why would he choose the Premier League to improve as he has offers from a major club like Real Madrid. Which English Premier League team do you consider to be better than Real Madrid? Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in the last season Manchester City won the Champions League trophy in just one season but Real Madrid have not been better team. Real Madrid is the best team of all time. A better team for Mbappe than the English Premier League would be La Liga's Real Madrid and if all goes well, he will definitely come to Real Madrid. Mbappé himself likes Real Madrid very much and he will indeed fulfill his dreams one by one at Real Madrid. A move to Real Madrid could be a good decision for Mbappe at the moment.
Actually, this kind of thing also refers to money I guess.
Manchester City is a good club but there is already Haaland there, on the other hand other clubs will have difficulty with large funds other than Manchester City at this time. for example Liverpool who want Mbappe in the last few rumours but that also needs greater consideration because they need to spend a lot of players for that as well as Arsenal who want Mbappe but are not too much of a priority especially since they have spent more than 200 million on transfers this summer.
Madrid are one of the clubs that can do that, their finances are unquestionable Mbappe also knows the quality of Madrid in La Liga and the Champions League so there is nothing else I think other than going to Madrid.

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If you look at Real Madrid's pre-season fixtures, they will face AC Milan in the near future, interestingly Real Madrid will face many big clubs in their pre-season matches. I want to see how they do in the pre-season matches, I won't judge them and conclude, but I will see the development they will show during the pre-season matches. There will always be a difference between pre-season matches and real matches, but it can be a reference even if it doesn't guarantee it.
We'll be shown some matches from big clubs as they prepare.
Real Madrid have new great players and they surely will add to the strength of that team, and maybe also add variety in terms of formations which can use of Real Madrid coach, because sometimes a coach often do experiments on his players. So yes, although that match is a friendly match but it might be good reference because the coach will try several formations. Also, interesting is that they will be playing vs Manchester United, if i'm not mistaken it's been a long time not meet since they last match in 2018.

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Real Madrid are desperately in need of a striker to replace Karim Benzema. Kylian Mbappe, who has been their main target this summer is yet to decide his future and it is still unclear whether he will be available this summer. The club is now looking for alternatives before the window closes.
the reason Real Madrid and Mbappe have not mutually agreed to sign a contract is because there is uncertainty on the part of PSG at the moment on the one hand there is a very hot conflict at PSG with Mbappe so maybe Real Madrid have no other choice but to wait until Mbappe contract run out and there is no need for too much ambitious to find a replacement for Banzema.
although Banzema is a reliable player, Real Madrid can be successful without a substitute
I think in this case Madrid are not without options, it's just that they prefer to wait for how the current conditions run, they realise that if they are active then PSG will not reduce Mbappe's current price and it is better to be passive while monitoring how it moves because if Mbappe and PSG continue to argue then in this case sooner or later he also leaves.
It's about how the strategy is done I think because if they are too active at the moment then there are some possibilities that will still hurt them like when they fail then it will definitely be a joke just like before and of course PSG will also not reduce the price of Mbappe to leave.

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I've read your comments on Mbappe and realized I hadn't thought about it this way before. I am a football fan who wants Mbappe to transfer to Real Madrid. But based on what you said, you really spoke logically that it could be a problem for Real Madrid's game. Mbappe is an individual player. His character on the football field goes a little against the team spirit at Real Madrid. If he transfers, I don't know if it can prevent this situation. But there is another situation. It is this selfishness and greed that makes Mbappe Mbappe. That's why I'm undecided whether I want this transfer to happen or not.

Haaland and Mbappe are very different characters. It is because of these characters and their games on the field that they are now among the best players in the world. I will not make a comparison. Both are players a team would want. I can only state that Mbappe is more selfish than Haaland.

I wouldn't say that Mbappe could harm Real Madrid's game or could become a problem for the team. If that was the case, tons of problems would have been there when Ronaldo played for Real Madrid as he is even worse than Mbappe. But these players are still the best regardless of their characters. It makes sense that the selfishness and greed might be a part of their very own success formula although you can see that other players don't need to be an asshole in order to be successful. I rather think that players like Mbappe could be undermining other values that a club like Real Madrid stands for, but as long as he is the best scorer nobody would blame him for his character.

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July 15, 2023, 09:45:48 PM
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I know it's difficult, but I hope they can do more than what they can do in the Europa League by doing better in the Champions League. They are the rulers of the Europa League, as you can see they have maintained and shown good dominance in the Europa League although we see the opposite when they are in La Liga.

Players are key, which means I see they must be more able to bring players who are mental in the Champions League, because when they play in the Champions League repeatedly they also fail to show their best.

I believe if they can find the right formula, they will be able to compete in the Champions League. and also they might join to enliven the competition in La Liga as they did in the previous 2 seasons.

What do you think the management should do, should they focus on bringing in star players for example, or are there other options that can make them improve? Like regenerating with young players or something like that?

To be honest I don't think Sevilla have enough finances to bring big names to the team. I know that they won the Europa League title which made them have some good sum of winnings on one hand. They must have earned near 20 million euros during their journey to the title. But it is still not good enough to make their finances way better.

Their squad actually consists of really good players. I don't think they need to make a big change. They became champions in the Europa League with the same players in the end. It is all about maintaining a good understanding of management.
At least some improvement would be great for them, bringing in a star player would be very difficult and maybe this will give some consideration but I think if indeed the star player option cannot be brought in then finding a suitable player at a slightly cheaper price could be a good thing for them too.

Right now they have to realize that even though this season is the Europa League champion, but still they still have a lot of gaps and that should not be allowed because if they let this too much, this will have a bad impact and it could be that the start of their season next season will be the same as this season in domestic competitions with the tight schedule they have.

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July 15, 2023, 09:49:39 PM
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Damn. Friend, are you kidding? Mbappe is not a thing and PSG have no right to dispose of him. They can only demand the execution of a contract that expires in a year. Clubs do not "sell" players, they only take compensation for the premature termination of the contract. If you do not know this, then it is surprising to me why you write in topics about football.

So it's basically the same thing right? I see this as a form of business which contains money being transferred for the services of a player which is obviously the 'salary' of a player. And the compensation you are talking about is agreed by both clubs because the club having the ownership of the 'contract' of the player (not the player himself) is willing to terminate the contract prematurely.

In short, buying and selling.

Sorry, but these are completely different things. The rudest thing we can say using the word "sale" is that the club is selling its rights to the player's services. These rights arose from the club as a result of the signing of the contract. And then the club receives compensation if the contract is terminated ahead of schedule. But the club cannot "sell" the player anywhere in any way - it is always the player's decision. Mbappe can safely wait a year and PSG have no options to put pressure on him.

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July 15, 2023, 09:49:54 PM
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..And with Mbappe, this would be an extraordinary thing, but it's still wishful thinking at this time, because it's still just rumours. But indeed, the rumors in the current transfer market are stronger than before.
If we look at Mbappe's rumored journey with Real Madrid, it has been going on for two years and until now the results are still the same without any significant clarity. Maybe for Mbappe if he leaves now he can do it, but he doesn't want to lose the bonuses he gets when his contract expires next year and many sources have said this.
Yes, talking about Mbappe to Real Madrid has been around for a long time and is still going on until now, it is still a rumor that is hot enough to be discussed. Because until now there has been no definite clarity regarding the move of a soccer star to Real Madrid. So this has become news material that is always eagerly awaited by the media and used by the media to always get hot news about football. And whether this will end the same as last season where Mbappe will stay and extend his contract at PSG or move to another club.

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At least some improvement would be great for them, bringing in a star player would be very difficult and maybe this will give some consideration but I think if indeed the star player option cannot be brought in then finding a suitable player at a slightly cheaper price could be a good thing for them too.

Right now they have to realize that even though this season is the Europa League champion, but still they still have a lot of gaps and that should not be allowed because if they let this too much, this will have a bad impact and it could be that the start of their season next season will be the same as this season in domestic competitions with the tight schedule they have.
Not too strong finances will prevent Sevilla from bringing in quality players to strengthen their squad depth for next season. But yes, as you said, Sevilla management can do the second option by looking for talented players in unpopular leagues so they can get them at a relatively cheap price. Sevilla will be playing in the Champions League next season so if they want to go far they will definitely need to have a lot of good quality players in their squad.

On the one hand, Sevilla will find it difficult to compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid in Laliga because the two Laliga giants are much stronger than them. Yes, for that, Sevilla will only compete and give their best in Laliga or in the Champions League. Sevilla is one of the strongest teams in the Europa League and they will be able to prove their quality again in the Champions League next season.

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I think there will be no such thing as Mbappe to join a Saudi Arabian team already now. It just doesn't make sense at all. Even for money I mean as he is already making the highest amount of money among all the players in Europe and the gap is really wide between them. He must be just concentrated on how he can win more titles - especially the Champions League one.

Here at this point he would surely prefer to go to a team that are capable of winning the Champions League title. Real Madrid come to my mind directly at the top of this list as they are the leader in the rankings related to the number of titles by a big gap. Therefore sooner or later Mbappe would join Real Madrid.

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Mbappe egoistic attitude is the strongest factor. He will experience a decline in performance he considers himself an important player at the club that other players must respect, this condition is certainly not good for the team and also for Mbappe himself. Humble attitude needs to be prioritized, he cannot play alone without the support of other players, when other players boycott Mbappe by not giving him assists, he will have difficulty scoring goals and improving his performance.

For this reason alone, Ancelotti may be reluctant to include Mbappe in the squad. Mbappe is capable of scoring a lot of goals and his fitness is very good. But his behavior is completely different from Real Madrid players. Real Madrid is a strong team as a team. Real Madrid's good results are due to the contribution of almost every player in the team. Ancelotti will certainly not want to rely solely on Mbappe to shape his strategy. Mbappe's main problem is his unwillingness to assist. He just wants to score.
Even though it looks selfish in terms of every match, I think it's fine to rely on Kylian Mbappe because he can indeed be superior to other players with very strong performance and the tactics that are always used are very precise.
But I understand that Ancelotti is thinking again about getting Kylian Mbappe because of fears he will change strategy which will end in conflict with other players at his own club.
Kylian Mbappe is indeed a very talented player but I don't like it when he is too arrogant like he wants to excel himself.

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July 15, 2023, 10:31:05 PM
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I think there will be no such thing as Mbappe to join a Saudi Arabian team already now. It just doesn't make sense at all. Even for money I mean as he is already making the highest amount of money among all the players in Europe and the gap is really wide between them. He must be just concentrated on how he can win more titles - especially the Champions League one.

Here at this point he would surely prefer to go to a team that are capable of winning the Champions League title. Real Madrid come to my mind directly at the top of this list as they are the leader in the rankings related to the number of titles by a big gap. Therefore sooner or later Mbappe would join Real Madrid.
Mbappe is still quite young so it's unlikely he will take a stance on leaving the European stage. Moreover, Mbappe has never won the Trophy Ucl so he really has to focus on reaching the Trophy ucl before he leaves Europe. His current situation at PSG is the in golden boy of the PSG team, but he often throws tantrums which makes his future at PSG not very clear because the PSG management wants to sell Mbappe to another team in this transfer window.

If Mbappe goes to real madrid in this transfer window I can't imagine how strong the real madrid squad would be if there was mbappe in the depths of their squad. Surely the opportunity for Mbappe to win the ucl trophy will be achieved if he joins Real Madrid. I don't think there has been any sign of an official offer from Real Madrid for PSG recently.

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Mbappe is still quite young so it's unlikely he will take a stance on leaving the European stage. Moreover, Mbappe has never won the Trophy Ucl so he really has to focus on reaching the Trophy ucl before he leaves Europe. His current situation at PSG is the in golden boy of the PSG team, but he often throws tantrums which makes his future at PSG not very clear because the PSG management wants to sell Mbappe to another team in this transfer window.
He wants many things, Champions League, Euro and Ballon d'Or, of course, can not lack of high salary. Before he get those titles and awards, he will not leave Europe but staying in Europe with high salary is his demand too. With his belief that PSG are not able to win Champions League and he does not want to waste his time with them, he will leave PSG soon. High salary, other clubs can satisfy Mbappe like Real Madrid.

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If Mbappe goes to real madrid in this transfer window I can't imagine how strong the real madrid squad would be if there was mbappe in the depths of their squad. Surely the opportunity for Mbappe to win the ucl trophy will be achieved if he joins Real Madrid. I don't think there has been any sign of an official offer from Real Madrid for PSG recently.
Mbappe will be only one piece for Real Madrid squad and he will not change them entirely. We must see that in Real Madrid, they have problems with an ageing squad and even they have been preparing old players gradually, during the transition there will be some hiccups and Mbappe can not cover all of Real Madrid issues.

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