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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 01:15:53 PM
Im not planning on running a LN node and if I do it would probably be over a tor connection


Why scarred ?  Run one openly and prove you are not afraid of the US Gov.   Tongue

Tor won't protect you , FBI hacked it years go and run over half of the tor nodes.
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-rather-drop-child-porn-case-give-exploit/


╥Aztek


Not scared but cant see the point there is already a lot of support out there I have my own server running a website with nodes so adding a LN hub would be trivial
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 01:08:04 PM
Im not american so yea there is that

Are you really so naive you think that makes any difference.  Tongue

Think again:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/20/kim-dotcom-eligible-for-extradition-to-us-new-zealand-high-court-rules


╥Aztek

For piracy of US copyright material bitcoins are not copyrighted and owned by any US company


You my dear tek are going to jail if you believe that will protect you.  Wink
Money Laundering / Banking Laws not copyright laws are your problems.
Be sure to post your LN hub info , I will send you an American Apple pie when they place you in an American prison, with I told you so written on it.


╥Aztek

Im not planning on running a LN node and if I do it would probably be over a tor connection

443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 12:58:38 PM
Im not american so yea there is that

Are you really so naive you think that makes any difference.  Tongue

Think again:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/20/kim-dotcom-eligible-for-extradition-to-us-new-zealand-high-court-rules


╥Aztek

For piracy of US copyright material bitcoins are not copyrighted and owned by any US company
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
Anyone with some Bitcoins can run a LN hub you dumb fucking retard. It will make big blockers look like dinosaurs of a forgotten past.


Shouldn't You be out looking for carrots, since you believe yourself to be a timid woodland creature.  

Run a LN hub right , run one right now, Oh Wait YOU CAN"T LN"S VAPOR WARE!!!

Exchanges are offering offchain transaction right now and their stuff works , Dufus!

or do you prefer bugs?   Cheesy


╥Aztek

https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning

Lightning Hub right here yes it requires bitcoind to be running on testnet at the moment and from my testing is working great there are coins that have announced will have working LN before the end of the year on mainnet and bitcoin should have fully working LN on mainnet first half possibly even first quarter of 2018 after extensive testing

Yes there will be big central hubs and you can almost bet all the big miners will also be running a LN hub as well as many node operators which there are 1000s but so can anyone at home if they wish

By running a full node or being a miner you are essentially acting as a bank right now helping process transactions

445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 12:47:09 PM

1.  G.Maxwell no matter what you think of his weight , is a proven Liar
2.  Any company (Banking Cartels thru AXA) that own blockstream can force a patent suit and destroy any other coin that uses segshit.

Patents are not cheap , G.Maxwell claiming it will never be used, well you are a fool if you believe him.
So the bitcoin gold users expect a lawsuit to cease and desist in ~2 years.  Wink

Used Segshit and risk being devastated in a legal battle or just let any exchange do your offchain processing with none of LN/segshit restrictions or limitations.

Bitcoin Cash can use exchanges to process their offchain transactions faster & cheaper & without segshit.


╥Aztek

Anyone is fee to use segwit code the same as anyone is fee to use the bitcoin code

A LN fund cannot be seized easily and if it could it's anonymous to an extent a LN node has no idea where the money is going or coming from just its last/next hop but has no idea is the last/next hop was the start or endpoint

And you think using a exchange is more secure a central place somewhere that has to do NYC verification's and know's exactly who it belongs to what bitcoin address address  and home address with everything traceable on chain yea right now you're dreaming





LN /Segwit is designed to allow confiscation of the Funds.
https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blockstream-patents-segwit-makes-pieces-fall-place/


Exchanges will not require Time Locks, and any exchanges located outside of New York State can ignore any stupid laws they make up.
An offshore exchange , is way safer than a LN HUB, which you won't even directly choose, you just paid a fee and it picks it's own path of hubs.

So yes, Exchanges are all safer than LN/segshit will be.
LN Hubs will be required to report all of their transactions to any government they reside or do business in since all of their transactions will cross country/state lines.
Exchanges can be under just 1 country laws as their exchange resides within a single country and those trades never leave than country.
Every LN Hub will be responsible in every country they transmit too and from, since they are basically using their own IOUs system like a bank note.
KYC Laws will be enforced on all LN Hubs (confiscation is possible with LN), which was one of the design reasons for them to start with.



╥Aztek
Anyone with some Bitcoins can run a LN hub you dumb fucking retard. It will make big blockers look like dinosaurs of a forgotten past.

You're talking to a wall she says you need millions and a bank licence

LN is true peer to peer money I can open a channel with you and we can transact together without anyone ever knowing or being able to touch it

Oh you wanna sent my friend some money but don't have a link here go through mine

You can probably expect LN first half of 2018 its almost ready I have used it a few times now on testnet already and there are some coins that claim they will have LN before the end of the year



Until LN is released, you speaking of pure fantasy, because NO ONE CAN USE IT, so you might as well claim it cures cancer.


LN is not true peer to peer money, it is nothing but PayPal for crypto.
Their worthless IOUs notes are transferred , but the only value is if can be redeemed for an actual ONCHAIN commodity.

Setup an LN hub, and someone tracks the IP to your house and reports you to FINCERN as an UNLICENSED Money exchanger.

You won't talk so big when they shove those KYC laws at you and make you turn over every transaction ever made
and fine you at minimum or at worse jail you for being a money launder. 
https://www.fincen.gov/resources/statutes-regulations/usa-patriot-act


╥Aztek

Im not american so yea there is that
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 12:45:15 PM
Anyone with some Bitcoins can run a LN hub you dumb fucking retard. It will make big blockers look like dinosaurs of a forgotten past.


Shouldn't You be out looking for carrots, since you believe yourself to be a timid woodland creature.  

Run a LN hub right , run one right now, Oh Wait YOU CAN"T LN"S VAPOR WARE!!!

Exchanges are offering offchain transaction right now and their stuff works , Dufus!

or do you prefer bugs?   Cheesy


╥Aztek

Banks work now and are processing millions of transactions a second we've all been conned sell all now

C'mon exchanges are worse than banks how many exchanges have closed and all funds lost MTgox owes me $40000 now will I ever see it again NO
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 11:40:29 AM

1.  G.Maxwell no matter what you think of his weight , is a proven Liar
2.  Any company (Banking Cartels thru AXA) that own blockstream can force a patent suit and destroy any other coin that uses segshit.

Patents are not cheap , G.Maxwell claiming it will never be used, well you are a fool if you believe him.
So the bitcoin gold users expect a lawsuit to cease and desist in ~2 years.  Wink

Used Segshit and risk being devastated in a legal battle or just let any exchange do your offchain processing with none of LN/segshit restrictions or limitations.

Bitcoin Cash can use exchanges to process their offchain transactions faster & cheaper & without segshit.


╥Aztek

Anyone is fee to use segwit code the same as anyone is fee to use the bitcoin code

A LN fund cannot be seized easily and if it could it's anonymous to an extent a LN node has no idea where the money is going or coming from just its last/next hop but has no idea is the last/next hop was the start or endpoint

And you think using a exchange is more secure a central place somewhere that has to do NYC verification's and know's exactly who it belongs to what bitcoin address address  and home address with everything traceable on chain yea right now you're dreaming





LN /Segwit is designed to allow confiscation of the Funds.
https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blockstream-patents-segwit-makes-pieces-fall-place/


Exchanges will not require Time Locks, and any exchanges located outside of New York State can ignore any stupid laws they make up.
An offshore exchange , is way safer than a LN HUB, which you won't even directly choose, you just paid a fee and it picks it's own path of hubs.

So yes, Exchanges are all safer than LN/segshit will be.
LN Hubs will be required to report all of their transactions to any government they reside or do business in since all of their transactions will cross country/state lines.
Exchanges can be under just 1 country laws as their exchange resides within a single country and those trades never leave than country.
Every LN Hub will be responsible in every country they transmit too and from, since they are basically using their own IOUs system like a bank note.
KYC Laws will be enforced on all LN Hubs (confiscation is possible with LN), which was one of the design reasons for them to start with.



╥Aztek
Anyone with some Bitcoins can run a LN hub you dumb fucking retard. It will make big blockers look like dinosaurs of a forgotten past.

You're talking to a wall she says you need millions and a bank licence

LN is true peer to peer money I can open a channel with you and we can transact together without anyone ever knowing or being able to touch it

Oh you wanna sent my friend some money but don't have a link here go through mine

You can probably expect LN first half of 2018 its almost ready I have used it a few times now on testnet already and there are some coins that claim they will have LN before the end of the year

448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 11:38:25 AM

LN /Segwit is designed to allow confiscation of the Funds.
https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blockstream-patents-segwit-makes-pieces-fall-place/


Exchanges will not require Time Locks, and any exchanges located outside of New York State can ignore any stupid laws they make up.
An offshore exchange , is way safer than a LN HUB, which you won't even directly choose, you just paid a fee and it picks it's own path of hubs.

So yes, Exchanges are all safer than LN/segshit will be.
LN Hubs will be required to report all of their transactions to any government they reside or do business in since all of their transactions will cross country/state lines.
Exchanges can be under just 1 country laws as their exchange resides within a single country and those trades never leave than country.
Every LN Hub will be responsible in every country they transmit too and from, since they are basically using their own IOUs system like a bank note.
KYC Laws will be enforced on all LN Hubs (confiscation is possible with LN), which was one of the design reasons for them to start with.



╥Aztek

That man has no credit at all and yes I am blocked from him on twitter for calling him out
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: November 29, 2017, 11:26:34 AM
Check their webpage now anyone who downloaded the QT Wallet is infected.  

Happy I followed my own advice the fact that Malwaybytes picked it up was a big red flag for me.  

So all still safe on Nano s.
Really? Stole money then virus in the QT wallet.

Well, the team didn't steel your money.  It was a rouge dev that put up a website which enabled him to record your keys if you were dumb enough to put them in the site.
Worse though is that this original post still has a link to the hacked version of the client linked.  Intensional or not?  I don't know, which is why I left negative trust. on the account at least until the issue is resolved.


Ah! The infamous Rouge Dev a faction of it's more notoriouse group the Khmer Rouge of Cambodian, are they are now branching out from mass murder into crypto hacking Smiley

The code of that website has been torn apart since then as has been deemed almost impossible to spot the vulnerability as it was not sending the keys to a 3rd party but encoding them into the google analytics data that then needed to be decoded by the owner of the google account

Pretty much every website in existence uses google analytics data you could say google helped them to steal all the keys but we all know google had nothing to do with it

450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTG] Bitcoin Gold Launch – 12th November 2017 (7:00 PM UTC) on: November 29, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
I don't know enough about the code or project to offer support or condemnation but malware bytes is awful. Had previous experience of them blocking a website and when we finally got a response they just refused to even look at it or fix the false possitive.

Again I don't know if that's the case here or not. Perhaps someone with technical knowledge and a stake in this project could reverse engineer the code and check outgoing connections to see if there is a problem or not.
Why even make a comment if you have no fucken idea what you are talking about?

They have posted it themselves on their website that the wallets are infected you idiot.  

They never said they were infected just that the checksum did not match and should be seen as compromised.

Since there have been 0 reports of stolen funds we can only come up with a few scenarios

1. The files were harmless and were not compromised (Maybe slight corruption on upload)
2. No one downloaded the file during that time (bearing in mins it was only the windows version and pretty much all companies use the linux version or build from source)
3. If it was compromised and a users key was stolen then no action has yet taken place (unlikely since it's been warned the hacker would want a quick exit while it possible)

451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 10:22:14 AM

1.  G.Maxwell no matter what you think of his weight , is a proven Liar
2.  Any company (Banking Cartels thru AXA) that own blockstream can force a patent suit and destroy any other coin that uses segshit.

Patents are not cheap , G.Maxwell claiming it will never be used, well you are a fool if you believe him.
So the bitcoin gold users expect a lawsuit to cease and desist in ~2 years.  Wink

Used Segshit and risk being devastated in a legal battle or just let any exchange do your offchain processing with none of LN/segshit restrictions or limitations.

Bitcoin Cash can use exchanges to process their offchain transactions faster & cheaper & without segshit.


╥Aztek

Anyone is fee to use segwit code the same as anyone is fee to use the bitcoin code

A LN fund cannot be seized easily and if it could it's anonymous to an extent a LN node has no idea where the money is going or coming from just its last/next hop but has no idea is the last/next hop was the start or endpoint

And you think using a exchange is more secure a central place somewhere that has to do NYC verification's and know's exactly who it belongs to what bitcoin address address  and home address with everything traceable on chain yea right now you're dreaming

452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 03:35:55 AM
I does not understand Bitcoin Cash heaters, Do you receive some money for your trolling? I think that smart ppl can do some little research themselves and find that total scam is bitcoin with centralized hubs on lighting network. The enter point on this research to find what is it "lighting network" Smiley

Now, I came to this thread and go to the link where somebody call real bitcoin (bitcoin cash) = scam. I read all arguments on that haters website and see that I'm right with my research. Hope that mind wins and even to the most stupid ghosts in the end will reach where is the truth. Smiley

Start thinking themselves. Do research. It's your money, baby Smiley

Lightning network is not where you will keep your bitcoin it will still be secure on the blockchain where the vast majority of transactions may still take place

Lightning is for small and micro transactions and useful for streaming money

think of say your electric/gas meter you have at home you could stream money to your energy supplier by the KWh that you use real time this is just an example but things like this are only possible off chain
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 03:28:09 AM
bcash cant do cross atomic swaps Cry

The downtrend is getting steeper panic selling is starting to kick in

454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 03:19:47 AM
I does not understand Bitcoin Cash heaters, Do you receive some money for your trolling? I think that smart ppl can do some little research themselves and find that total scam is bitcoin with centralized hubs on lighting network. The enter point on this research to find what is it "lighting network" Smiley

Now, I came to this thread and go to the link where somebody call real bitcoin (bitcoin cash) = scam. I read all arguments on that haters website and see that I'm right with my research. Hope that mind wins and even to the most stupid ghosts in the end will reach where is the truth. Smiley

Start thinking themselves. Do research. It's your money, baby Smiley

Many of the alts will be enabling lightning network and allowing cross chain swaps and bcash will be left out because they refused segwit

455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 02:18:12 AM
on the front page of r/btc there are a grand total of two threads about, y'know, bitcoin reaching five figures.

they have attracted a grand total of five comments between them.

why no fun there?

r/btc now

456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 02:07:49 AM
BCH is diving, not sure if it's a buy or wait for more drop. Not much cash in exchange now anyway. Tongue

It will dive faster if roger ever decides bcash is not going to take the #1 spot and sells it all for his next "project" and you will all be the last to know about it behind jihan and fakesatoshi etc they will all get first prime picking before it dumps real hard

Check this: https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate , 2017-11-12... BTC almost died that night. I thinkk they, whoever they are, the miners or whatever, stopped it on purpose. It was a show of force. I think we will see such night again but when that night comes, the hash rate will not come back to BTC and BTC will die. Remember unconfirmed transactions for BTC Over 200K or something.

A few more hours, if the exchanges hadn't crashed or disconnected or whatever was going on, BTC would have died.

I think, BTC has already lost the war. This is just good time for people to move away from BTC into BCH before it's too late.

All of this, of course, taken stright out of my own a** because I lost my crystal ball long long long time ago. Undecided

...but as they say, better be safe than sorry. Smiley

That was due to a massive amount of manipulation due to the EDA this has now been forked off which is good for both coins but has also removed any chance of BCH taking a huge share of hashing power ever again because to be able to take 60% of power you would need to increase the value of BCH by 400%

Good points. Time will tell I guess.

I think it's getting close to a value where people start panic selling now the downtrend is starting to get steeper
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 01:57:52 AM
BCH is diving, not sure if it's a buy or wait for more drop. Not much cash in exchange now anyway. Tongue

It will dive faster if roger ever decides bcash is not going to take the #1 spot and sells it all for his next "project" and you will all be the last to know about it behind jihan and fakesatoshi etc they will all get first prime picking before it dumps real hard

Check this: https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate , 2017-11-12... BTC almost died that night. I thinkk they, whoever they are, the miners or whatever, stopped it on purpose. It was a show of force. I think we will see such night again but when that night comes, the hash rate will not come back to BTC and BTC will die. Remember unconfirmed transactions for BTC Over 200K or something.

A few more hours, if the exchanges hadn't crashed or disconnected or whatever was going on, BTC would have died.

I think, BTC has already lost the war. This is just good time for people to move away from BTC into BCH before it's too late.

All of this, of course, taken stright out of my own a** because I lost my crystal ball long long long time ago. Undecided

...but as they say, better be safe than sorry. Smiley

That was due to a massive amount of manipulation due to the EDA this has now been forked off which is good for both coins but has also removed any chance of BCH taking a huge share of hashing power ever again because to be able to take 60% of power you would need to increase the value of BCH by 400%
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: November 29, 2017, 01:35:15 AM
i joined telegram im curious about this and willing to learn more

This is a good place to start
http://www.bitcoincashscam.com/

The charts show you what you need to know

459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 01:14:04 AM
BCH is diving, not sure if it's a buy or wait for more drop. Not much cash in exchange now anyway. Tongue

It will dive faster if roger ever decides bcash is not going to take the #1 spot and sells it all for his next "project" and you will all be the last to know about it behind jihan and fakesatoshi etc they will all get first prime picking before it dumps real hard
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 29, 2017, 01:07:50 AM
BCH is diving, not sure if it's a buy or wait for more drop. Not much cash in exchange now anyway. Tongue

and anything that ain't a bitcoin fork is green as the amazon. pretty interesting behavior. i wonder if it's gonna continue like that forever.

Another fork ? https://twitter.com/BTCPLT must have missed this one either that or forgot lol there's that many but sounds a bit like litecoin/segwit2x combo forked from bitcoin with 2.5 min blocks in a couple of weeks

https://twitter.com/BTCPLT/status/935543302895439872
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