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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 (ZK Anon) & White Paper NOW AVAILABLE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 16, 2014, 01:37:53 PM
What makes you think someone asking for the spend code to be open sourced means they want to buy cheap SDC?

Maybe some people just want to know there are no potential vulnerabilities in the code. The SDC dev team seems to be very competent. However smart people can make mistakes.

Look at what happened at blockchain.info this week despite all their coders, good intentions and VC money. Asking for code should not be viewed as FUD or a personal attack.

I understand that SDC may not want others to copy their coin (like others copied their stealth address code) but the 1st will always be the leader. Copycats cannot be prevented. Many have copied BTC and BTC remains the leader. Many have copied the cryptonote code and XMR (first fair launch) and BCN are FAR ahead of all later copycats.

SDC will remain the leader for this version of ZK tech once it is proves, even when/if others copy it.  Without going open source, there are huge risks to all SDC holders which some are not willing to accept. This is an important moment for the future direction of SDC

I agree with this, the code should be open source for peer review. It is critical for trust, especially when dealing with systems that protect anonymity.

Every coin at this point stands on the shoulders of giants, they all utilize open source code written by programmers who came before them. For the forward progress of cryptocurrency as a public good to continue it must remain open source.

Please, look at these simple words:

I am confused.  Is the present ShadowCash release opensource, or not?

We've committed the verification code for exchanges: https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/tree/anon
Its enough to build the daemon, and it will be able to accept and verify anonymous transcations.

We've left the spend code out for now, as we wan't to give investors a chance to have something unique.

<snip>
Most of the checks and validations are done in main.cpp (https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/blob/anon/src/main.cpp) and ringsig.cpp (https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/blob/anon/src/ringsig.cpp)

We committed the verification code, so that people can go through it Smiley
<snip>
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 16, 2014, 10:28:10 AM




LOL. This is like a Holy Grail
+1
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 15, 2014, 11:43:23 PM
no way Bter after this whole Bitbay cluster fuck

I agree. We don't need Bter. China will find sdc sooner or later anyway.
Exco.in will add shadowcash soon and this is awesome. It is very promising and innovative place for the top-notch currencies. I predict the popularity and volume at this place in 2015, the same which had Mintpal in its old days
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 15, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
Of course the github source is production capable! Hense its current state. Every other exchange is using it and so are every one of my nodes.
Its on the op, the wiki, and the website.

The github source has not been pushed to in 28 days, it appeared to us looking through the git commits, the majority of the development was not occuring on the github. Our system requires a somewhat up to date coind API so we can provide proof of reserves.
How "up to date" is PPC and Doge? Just curious because the last commits I see is in July for PPC and August for Doge.

+1
You rightly pointed out
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.0.1 Released - Official Upgrade Thread - Performance & More on: December 15, 2014, 12:21:15 PM
We just need to tell everyone about neoscoin. So we can grow Wink

the suporters atm are pretty solid though Wink , we make a nice wall for higher ground

Yes
100 users are in the Neos irc chat constantly. This is not funny. Syntaks has the big army of fans. Twoturtles rulezz!!!
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 15, 2014, 12:34:28 AM
This project is developed on a private git? Is the github source up to date? We have been considering the idea of implementing a SDC market and we want to review the codebase.
Bump

Thank you. We are not asking to see the source to ZK right now, we just need an up to date sourcecode that is production ready we can review and compile.

Exciting. I'd want to see Shadowcash on your exco.in. The perfect interaction - perfect coin for the perfect exchange.
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 14, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
This project is developed on a private git? Is the github source up to date? We have been considering the idea of implementing a SDC market and we want to review the codebase.

@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool


Thank you very much! I am happy to hear this (especially the GitHub part)

Once zk releases on mainnet (open source) I see some generous tips in the future for the dev team.

You guys are great!

Lucy, Shadowcash won't be opensourced near time.
This will avoid the appearance of clones. Because we all know that SDC techs are superior
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 09:00:22 PM

It's your opinion and you're entitled to think so.
I invested in BTCD at 20-50ksat and invested in early days of DRK at 100-300ksat prices. And look at this projects now. They are not dead and live very well if to be modest. The same thing will happen with Shadow. This is the unique project, someday marketcap of this project will equal DRK's marketcap. Mark my words..

I would consider that result very disappointing.

Why not a market cap in the trillions USD, being the primary currency for private and secure transactions by most people in the world?

Once all of the features of the coins are in place and working in a manner that is universally trusted, on both desktops and phones, why would anyone prefer to use BTC?

Because only small amount of people know about sdc. It's like a dark horse this days. When it will be under the attention of the press and PR company will start working, we will see manifold increase in capitalization and attention of the masses with big investors.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 06:56:49 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.


I would not buy one Shadow anymore.

This coin just acts like all the others.

First stage - Hardworking Devs on a coin, developing stuff ...
Second stage - to get the coin going it needs one big feature that dwarfs everything, to attract each and every idiot in the market (-> Zero Knowledge Transactions)
Third - Delays, Some things turn out to be not true, developers will communicate less and less
Fourth -  Price declines massively - Dead Coin.

It happened with almost every coin, it will happen with this one too.

You can believe in this coin all you want - in the end you will be sitting in front of your desk devastated because you didn't get the news of the delay

YeahYeah BlaBlaBla - you believe in this Coin - Why?
Does it have nice Pictures? Yes
Did developers bring forward new features? Yes
Do they have a closed source on the ZK tech? Yes

Guess what... up to 6 Coins did the same thing before - exactly the same stuff - but you are here thinking this is the one.


Sell - go home - Trade on wallstreet, not on this playground for children.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to think so.
I invested in BTCD at 20-50ksat and invested in early days of DRK at 100-300ksat prices. And look at this projects now. They are not dead and live very well if to be modest. The same thing will happen with Shadow. This is the unique project, someday marketcap of this project will equal DRK's marketcap. Mark my words

My conclusion is that you're too young in cryptotrading and don't have successful investment experience.

This is funny, of course you are mentioning one Coin that reached quite a big marketcap ^^
You seem to forget all the other Coin that were before Darkcoin... look at coinmarketcap under "viewall" maybe you can remember them. Wink

I have enough experience to say that this Cryptoworld is full of children, liars and promises. I made my successful trades in the real world, and I shall turn back there.

The secret is that you should learn to distinguish really decent innovative projects from other scammy crap that live by your plan.
You are not the first and not the last skeptic here. I'm with shadow for 5 month and saw dozens of those like you who predicted the end of the world here. One man replaces another and fails again over and over. Meanwhile SDC is strengthening and gaining a large and strong community for 5 months. Someone leaves, but there are significantly much more intelligent and sober people who comes along and finds a holy grail in this project. In the end they stay here forever because this project deserves eternal devotion.

With regards, Cornett
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 06:25:54 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.


I would not buy one Shadow anymore.

This coin just acts like all the others.

First stage - Hardworking Devs on a coin, developing stuff ...
Second stage - to get the coin going it needs one big feature that dwarfs everything, to attract each and every idiot in the market (-> Zero Knowledge Transactions)
Third - Delays, Some things turn out to be not true, developers will communicate less and less
Fourth -  Price declines massively - Dead Coin.

It happened with almost every coin, it will happen with this one too.

You can believe in this coin all you want - in the end you will be sitting in front of your desk devastated because you didn't get the news of the delay

YeahYeah BlaBlaBla - you believe in this Coin - Why?
Does it have nice Pictures? Yes
Did developers bring forward new features? Yes
Do they have a closed source on the ZK tech? Yes

Guess what... up to 6 Coins did the same thing before - exactly the same stuff - but you are here thinking this is the one.


Sell - go home - Trade on wallstreet, not on this playground for children.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to think so.
I invested in BTCD at 20-50ksat and invested in early days of DRK at 100-300ksat prices. And look at this projects now. They are not dead and live very well if to be modest. The same thing will happen with Shadow. This is the unique project, someday marketcap of this project will equal DRK's marketcap. Mark my words

My conclusion is that you're too young in cryptotrading and don't have successful investment experience.
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 06:08:27 PM

No one is selling, atleast I wouldn't xD

Not at this stage


selling? You should forget this word here, Sdc is the best investment in crypto. It's obviously.
I can trade and sell another coins to increase my investments and investments of my partners in SDC, and only Shadows i'm constantly buying.
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
So here is a question I've been curious about for a long time.

I've seen what feels like hundreds of people now,  show up here and in IRC,  say hopeful things about the project and also say that they are ready to buy and will soon as ZK is out mainnet after SDC has essentially fully proven itself.

I feel like I have literally seen this sentiment well over a hundred times (likely way more).   So my question is what the hell are these people going to do when ZK launches?  They do realize there is only 6.5M coins?   And that as it would seem the vast majority of them seem to be in very strong hands.      So what is going to happen?  If you look at the order books there is no supply.   I'm sure if we blast through 30k and get up to 50k-70k etc   Some people will ROI, or eventually sell off,  However I feel the buyers demands will vastly, Vastly outweigh the sellers even at prices several times higher than now.

So my question is, is almost everyone going to miss the boat?   There have been plenty of chances to get >20k SD, and even more chances to grab it between 20-30k.  

Are most of them going to miss the boat entirely?  And be forced to kick themselves in the as forever like I do about my BTC stash before it went above $5.00 ^.^

I'm just generally curious what you think is going to happen.

The answer to your question:

453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 13, 2014, 03:47:39 PM
@ LucyLovesCrypto

Testnet has finished. Waiting for imminent release of whitpaper and new ZK wallets, which will be on github. The Dev (Ryno) can often be found in irc and is always helpful.

This ain't Cloak, it's Shadow  Cool


Thank you very much! I am happy to hear this (especially the GitHub part)

Once zk releases on mainnet (open source) I see some generous tips in the future for the dev team.

You guys are great!

Lucy, Shadowcash won't be opensourced near time.
This will avoid the appearance of clones. Because we all know that SDC techs are superior
454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.0.1 Released - Official Upgrade Thread - Performance & More on: December 12, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
Any ideas on whats next on the neos feature list?

The roadmap needs some editing I'll pass that onto yak, but at the moment there are a few new key features (undisclosed) I'm back to working on for 2.0.2.  I'm *really* itching to set up a unique market though and that's pretty high priority on my list.

     Best regards,

syntaks

awesome. New changes are coming to Happy Christmas time
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 09, 2014, 02:15:39 PM

OMG Are you kidding ? I think no...

456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 08, 2014, 10:41:29 AM
I2P anonymous network is coming



Are all those things going to be released @ once ? zk, i2p, marketplace ?
This will hit the news on a scale of 10 I think...

No. You say quite unrealistic. There is no magic. High quality products appear gradually and in stages. These things are only in the development stage and will eventually appear on line. But first and foremost we will see the final public release of ZeroKnowlege
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 08, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
skip60, i have a decent value of shadow, but i buy more on the news to move the volume. It is necessary for high activity on the market and helps to stabilize up-trend of the price. With these actions I don't think about my own benefit, I'm thinking about bringing attention to the project as a whole. Because i'm fully devoted to this project.

With Regards, Cornett.
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 08, 2014, 01:46:27 AM
Awesome work!




This is gonna be a huge marketplace Smiley

So will the SDC price sellers set for items pegged to USD or is it a number they plug in that needs to be changed everytime ShadowCash price rises or declines? Important question. The best choice is that the system automatically updates a seller's item price to reflect current market conditions.

Yes. The price in SDC should be dynamic depending on the current market value
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Zero Knowledge Anonymity Public Testnet Online! | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: December 08, 2014, 01:41:08 AM
Feel the Black coin pumper in the chart
He's ready


A lot of us are ready to pump as soon as the big news hits Cheesy


What is the big news?

My BTCs are ready to pump it up when the public release of ZK will be submitted. Going to significantly increase my shadow investments this time
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.0.1 Released - Official Upgrade Thread - Performance & More on: December 08, 2014, 01:04:15 AM


If anyone wants to help out other people with getting information on this coin I would love to see summarized IRC chat log updates every 1 or 2 weeks. It's a lot of work trying to follow coins.




I had 52,000 NEOS so not a big effect on the market and I didn't dump all at once like that fool who did that on Dec 4th. If you're in this coin long term then I would think you want the price to drop as low as possible so you can buy more before it has a 100x growth. If you can play these little 2x and 3x ups/drops back down properly then you can double your NEOS for FREE! Once NEOS does release something that attracts investors then that free double up is quite valuable.

I never really understand why people that love a coin always want it's price to rise. I would want price to drop so I can buy more when I sell some other coin for a profit or get a pay check.



+1
Let's drop the price. We need the pre-sale before Christmas
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