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441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 27, 2024, 02:27:44 PM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?


Until you see gambling as fun, you will not stop to think of gambling as means of survival. Many people see gamble as a means of survival but only just few sees it a fun to do. There is this game older men play in my country and whenever they are seated playing this game called draft, their atmosphere is always lively and fun to be. You see them interacting with each others sharing knowledge and ideas too.


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how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
I would prefer not saying it but I would just as a matter of time be brief. It is advisable to put in funds according to your pocket so you do not feel the pains if after playing and losing everything. I have a certain percentage for which I always gamble with and it is personal. For the fun aspect to go above or be removed, then I so.not think I would likely do that. I gamble within my budget and I also gamble responsibly.
442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 27, 2024, 02:05:28 PM
That's a thought that often occurs to me, but I think they dare to take out a loan to gamble because they already believe that gambling can give them big wins. But even so, I don't think they should take out loans to gamble because it is a very risky money move. Maybe what's more clear is that they are addicted to gambling so they are willing to lose everything they have just to gamble. because in my opinion people who are addicted to gambling tend not to see the losses they will experience.

This happens a lot, I have even experienced someone selling their clothes in the middle of the night, with the current boom in gambling I reflexively think in that direction, many brands sell the goods they own just to gamble yes, it's none other than because of the hope they have that makes they are like this,  daring to take actions that take great risks.

Truly hopes, expectations and aspirations makes them do so. I just can not comprehend the force behind the actions. Some of them have the luck of winning after much games they have played and some are not lucky with their games it all points to them still putting funds for the game because they playing games can only be determined by the funds they have put in for the he to be played. With the aspect of using up things on them to gamble, I have no doubt about such because I have seen scenarios of such nature many times in bey houses were a gambler would use their phone, wrist watch and neck chain to gamble after losing all the funds they have put in for the game.

I am still very much curious the force that still holds them after still recording huge loses that should make  them take a break from gambling but they still continue gambling till they lose everything they had used for the game and are left with nothing to go home with.

In my opinion those who dare to take or carry out dangerous actions do so because of strong hopes that encourage them to continue gambling even though the gambling they do always ends in defeat. they dare to take the action of borrowing money to gamble in my opinion that is something that has gone too far, where they only think about their desire to gamble without thinking about the bad impact that could happen to themselves.

I don't think they will ever record their losses, because I think it's rare for people who gamble with them to record their losses, if at all I think those people are very careful. and I don't think it makes sense for them to record their losses, unless they record their daily expenses. In my opinion only they themselves know the strong reasons, and only they themselves know their motives for gambling.  even so, they will never easily realize that what they did was a big mistake that caused them to suffer big losses.

I am am also of the opinion that most of them with such gambling urge tends to go that extra miles to do the unthinkable as it pleases them to do so. Looking at gambling and loan at the same time, the both are very risky not to talk of taking a loan to gamble when you d not know how the end results would be if in your favour or against you.

It is true that only the gamblers can tell the reasons why they go as far as taking loans to gamble when they themselves know the repercussion involved in the game. That is why I do not bother asking questions anymore whenever I hear such complaints or information.
443  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Spam Emails pretending to be OpenSea on: January 27, 2024, 06:53:23 AM
That is obviously a scam mail sent to you op. Of lately scammers have been sending mails across looking for who to ripp off their hard earned resources. I received mails of that nature as well but I never bothered but rather I delete them immediately so I do not have anything to do with them or mistakenly click on them for any unknown reason.  One just have to be careful these days as scammers are on the lose. As at last year, it was nft sent by these scammers claiming it to be e from opensea which is not true and if you are not familiar with the space you will be tempted to transact directly from your wallet where it is giving them access.  I believe this post would be of good importance to the newbies here to see and read so as not to fall victim for their gimmicks.
444  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Please Help on: January 27, 2024, 04:40:10 AM
Im not sure if I am been scammed and dont understand the terminology. I had an AI generated account with Benchmark. I have gained some profit and wish to withdraw, the transaction has been sent and confirmed and has a block number but is not showing in my wallet (TAP Account) i have now received an email to say that a company called Blockchair are holding the funds as I need to complete a Liquidity check as this is my first transaction but to do this i have to put 21% of the value of my transaction into my tap account and buy bitcoin, once this is done and verified then the funds will be returned to my personal account. I this actually a thing?
It is obvious that you have fell into the hands of scammers. The blockchair you mentioned here to the best of my knowledge is a blockchain tracker whereby transactions are being monitored to see to the end of their confirmation and other activities as well or did they mention there for you anything else they do in the body of their message via email sent to you? I see no reasons why you should be asked to make payment to verify you before you could withdraw or before your withdrawal comes in to your account.
It's tricky and possibly a scam attempt. Do not send them anything as they would scam you of your resources.
445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: January 27, 2024, 04:14:20 AM
I do not really conform to your ideology and this I think is out of the context of a supposed addicted gamblers characteristics. I have never encountered am addicted gambler that behaves just normal in the sense of having these features you have said. From experience, all the addicted gamblers I have known in the past do not exhibit the kind of character you have portrayed here to be but rather the opposite which I think this is likely to be an early addiction stage where the gambler feels he or she can control their excessive gambling lifestyle but when it becomes obvious, one can not control themselves, they begin to exhibit the character of an addict .
446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "loaded slots" scam on: January 27, 2024, 03:33:44 AM

I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.

those offering such service are more then likely scammers. trying to trick users because of the promise of easy money. anyway, they will soon find out that such promise is too-good-to-be-true. but usually, it is already too late as some may have shell out some of their hard-earned money already. sometimes you just need common sense just to feel that something wrong is about to happen.

I will have no doubt to agreeing with your idea that most or majority of those rendering such services are scammers pretend to be giving game signals for tokens and they ends up losing their money to scammers who have no idea what they are doing. Some of them are not what they say they are but rather just some sort of hyping to get at people. One thing I have come to realise is that people who are always desperate like them too and do not do their own due diligence are the ones that falls for such scam without knowing
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447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "loaded slots" scam on: January 26, 2024, 11:40:07 PM
I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.
448  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoonClub.com on: January 26, 2024, 11:04:01 PM
Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice having you here. I must commend your website as the graphics is okay and I had to do a quick check on your website to see what you got and I checked your terms and conditions of service and I was as amazed by what I saw;

Does it mean that if you change your policy while in the course  trying to improve in your services you would not send notice or a reminder to know what aspects of your terms and conditions you effected changes. It is very disappointing to be seeing such on your website as a new casino but however,  you will still have time to improve on your services to God.
449  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: January 26, 2024, 10:24:58 PM
Responsible gambler know what to do when it comes to gambling and you can tell a gambler to take a break when he is emotionally on that and mostly in addicted gambler, there in is no break for them and the only thing they know is continues gambling until their pockets are exhausted. Even the creating a budget for gambling can be only done by a responsible gambler and not for addicted gambler.

And since the addicted gambler can't do all those things you mentioned there, what is the advice you can also give to the addicted gamblers in the gambling industry? Now you have given to how a responsible gas mbler should play games in the hall or site what about the addicted ones?
My advice for gamblers addicted to gambling platforms would be to gamble responsibly. An addicted gambler can claim to be a responsible gambler again if he gambles responsibly. Responsible gambling must set a fixed income budget such that no more than 1 to 5 percent of income can be used. Gambling should be treated as entertainment. Gambling should never be considered as a means of earning.

I have asked few people around me that are gamblers as well about their perspective when it comes to gambling and addiction. This were their reply and it points towards gambling to earn. One told me that responsible gambling does not only entails one making out budget for gambling but rather gambling to earn because one can make out budget for gambling but still yet hoping on that budget to rake in profit for them which is not so. Once you mark out your budget for gambling, just have it in mind that you are gambling for fun because anything other than that is out of context. When you do that having it in mind that you are expecting some return on investment, you will be disappointed with the result you will get and in other to recover them back you will resolve to pursuing your loss and once that happens, you can not be able to control yourself and you will keep repeating it over and over. That is the beginning of ones gambling addiction which they can not control at the beginning.
450  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CRYPTOLEAKS on: January 26, 2024, 09:53:27 PM
OP I am curious about your signal after reading replies and comments here. It is unfortunate that you would have these scores to settle before you think of going ahead because these accusations here I presume are somehow weighty which would warrant members to scrutinise you before thinking of patronising your services.
Nevertheless, I am not sure if you truly are a trader to give out signal or you belong to a telegram community where signals are shared then you go to your community d ask them to pay for signals and you share them wrong signals for trading  or how do you do that?
451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 26, 2024, 02:19:23 PM
Indeed borrowing money to gamble is a life ruin scenario which really does not worth it. Imagine paying a debt you never made any profit from and also paying interest on it when you lose the loan to gambling after putting your hope with high expectations of winning and also making huge profits but the reverse became the case.
Do not think of getting loan from family or relatives even if they do not require you to pay interest or inquire to know what you used the money for but when it is time for repayment, you do not have enough funds to pay them and they discovered you told them lies just to get money from the to gamble all in the name of loan, I think that should be the height of insensitivity on your own part as they would never trust your words again when it comes to fiance. You will have your name tagged as a gambler forever and you would always be a reference point for negative explanatory.

Taking out loans to gamble is a path to ruin in life, so it's no surprise that they get into a lot of trouble, including getting into debt and being chased by debt collectors if they take out loans from big companies, such as banks. However if they take out a loan from friends or family,  I think they will only be given warnings and reminders or reminded to immediately pay off the debt In my opinion they take out loans to gamble because they have been hypnotized by gambling so they cannot get rid of their bad habit.

realizing that gambling is not a source of money needs to be applied because with that I think they will not take actions that are indeed at great risk And if they take out a loan for gambling too it will not guarantee that it will produce a win that can pay off the loss at once by paying off the forest, not to mention if they borrow from the bank of course with those who are addicted,  their mindset is already messed up  so it is likely that they will not pay off the debt they have, so that it can spread to their own family and of course this is very unnatural. if they dare to act they must take full responsibility for their actions.
Sometimes I wonder what gives gamblers the audacity to go about borrowing and obtaining loans from loan sharks and banks just to gamble and I also wonder if truly their senses are with them when they gamble because I see no reasons why someone would gamble and losses everything on them and in some cases, they even sell their items such as phone jewelry if they have any on them just to gamble there after losing. What stops them from getting up and taking a walk out of the casino or gambling house for that moment  for a short while so as not to give room for borrowing. I am still thinking about it to know the exact reason and why most gamblers still continue to gamble after still recording huge loses.

That's a thought that often occurs to me, but I think they dare to take out a loan to gamble because they already believe that gambling can give them big wins. But even so, I don't think they should take out loans to gamble because it is a very risky money move. Maybe what's more clear is that they are addicted to gambling so they are willing to lose everything they have just to gamble. because in my opinion people who are addicted to gambling tend not to see the losses they will experience.

This happens a lot, I have even experienced someone selling their clothes in the middle of the night, with the current boom in gambling I reflexively think in that direction, many brands sell the goods they own just to gamble yes, it's none other than because of the hope they have that makes they are like this,  daring to take actions that take great risks.

Truly hopes, expectations and aspirations makes them do so. I just can not comprehend the force behind the actions. Some of them have the luck of winning after much games they have played and some are not lucky with their games it all points to them still putting funds for the game because they playing games can only be determined by the funds they have put in for the he to be played. With the aspect of using up things on them to gamble, I have no doubt about such because I have seen scenarios of such nature many times in bey houses were a gambler would use their phone, wrist watch and neck chain to gamble after losing all the funds they have put in for the game.

I am still very much curious the force that still holds them after still recording huge loses that should make  them take a break from gambling but they still continue gambling till they lose everything they had used for the game and are left with nothing to go home with.
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For over a month and now you have not been active here only to appear to be telling the platform about your casino. I was wondering if you are truly a representative as you claimed to be but however, as you can see, your thread is not active as you too is inactive on the platform as it has been over a month since you made any engagement here and members too would not bother about your thread as you are inactive.
453  Economy / Gambling / Re: MetaMask Crypto Casinos on: January 25, 2024, 02:57:14 PM

Is there a forum ban on inserting links in created topics?
I really have not seen such here. I believe you too have observed it yourself. Possibly it is not allowed here as you can see for yourself that majority of the topics here have no such features and as such are not clickable to redirect you to another page outside that of the platforms. You could try it yourself if you can but doing such, you should know that you are liable for your own actions.
It's fine, there's no ban too, the chance is only your post could be deleted by moderator, that's all.

I thought as much because I have actually not come across any topic here with a clickable link to redirect you out of the platform. What I am very sure of is post content which can be embedded but not topic. But however since it is not an offence against the platform, then it seems OP can try it out but I hope the link would not be something not in line with the principles of the platform otherwise it would likely be deleted as you have said.
454  Economy / Gambling / Re: Football predictions for today on: January 25, 2024, 01:46:02 PM
Spanish Cup quarterfinals
25.01.24. 20:00 (UTC)

Atletico vs. Sevilla

"Sevilla" won only three times in the last 10 official matches. So I think betting on Atletico's victory is a good choice. Bookmakers offer to bet on the victory of Atletico with odds of 1.55

I think Atletico are on a better position and are better in form to win the Match. Sevilla I think would have to do their best to contend with Atletico to win their match otherwise they should just see it as a bonus point for Atletico. So your prediction for Atletico win is absolute correct.
455  Economy / Gambling / Re: MetaMask Crypto Casinos on: January 25, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
Is there a forum ban on inserting links in created topics?
I really have not seen such here. I believe you too have observed it yourself. Possibly it is not allowed here as you can see for yourself that majority of the topics here have no such features and as such are not clickable to redirect you to another page outside that of the platforms. You could try it yourself if you can but doing such, you should know that you are liable for your own actions.
456  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: January 25, 2024, 01:16:14 PM
the rules need to change
in france u need to do kyc before deposit money
in the philippines its same
result to no issue when u withdraw

crypto bookmakers are no mans land
Yes, it is. In such situation there is no chance to cheat for casino. But the same time casino don`t like such opportunity. The same time they lose some clients, who don`t like KYC - after deposit they have to lose these money or to KYC if they want to withdraw it.  They tell us that it was made for faster start - gambler don`t lose time before his first bet, but i`m sure that the main reason is an opportunity to steal your money using the KYC.
The KYC has always been a good remedy for the casinos to steal your money. Little wonder they were quick to adopt the KYC policy by the government because it is all in their favour and as such they use it as a tool against gamblers who have funds with them but are having issues with their KYC as a result of they wanting to bypass the KYC settings. Although the casino claims it to be a smooth access to ones fund but in the reality it is not as they have said but rather just to get at many people. Casinos are not also sincere as well they are just after every means of making profit at all cost they do not mind who is involved.
457  Economy / Gambling / Re: MetaMask Crypto Casinos on: January 25, 2024, 01:05:40 PM
Yoi have a good initiative OP but I saw some casinos there which have pending scam accused cases here and some are yet to be resolved. Do you not think that members would look your website as promoting scam casinos and some are no more here to start with. Possibly you did not do a proper verification before including them in on your website but you can still do that as it is not too late. I must commend your efforts on this task OP. You have a  clean idea but it would be nice you do take out time to attend to the observations made on your website.
458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The need to control your emotions as a football fan. on: January 25, 2024, 12:50:40 PM
I believe they failed to understand the fact that in a game there must be a winner and a loser and also to not underestimate your opponent. Maybe the Ghanian team and fans expected the match to end in their victory forgetting that the game was a bone of contention between both teams. Possibly the players were too relaxed and free while thinking they could win it all very easy but to their greatest dismay they  could not qualify through the match. Although it is very disappointing but they should not have taken it that far by abusing and insulting the coach and team players.

This kind of situations happen when the people involved are not entertainment conscious but are just thinking of winning it all by all means which did not go down well with them. I think they need to be oriented to know how tournaments are. After all other previous AFCON tournament they have been playing did they cause their team and coach.
459  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is this where I can ask about mixers? on: January 25, 2024, 12:22:13 PM
Do not.get me wrong and not quote me out of context. Me saying that mixers should not be mentioned here simply means me meaning that anything that has to do with promoting mixers here is not welcomed and all form of promotion for mixers is strictly prohibited accordingly in the with the administrator's directives. So therefore, mixers are not permitted to operate on this platform. Although you can mention the name and talk about it nobody stops you from doing such as this platform is a free platform where everyone is free to enteract with each other and air their views as it concerns them.

I did not quote you out of context because I quoted your entire post, and the entire context was there.  Please learn what "quoting out of context" means.

As you can see from the OP's last reply, you were creating confusion in this discussion.  You stated specifically that "promoting or posting anything about mixers here" is restricted, which is not true.


Hey buddy's, you both should calm yourself down. There is just a little misunderstanding here. The thing is, the mixer ban confuses a lot of us, and if you don't read through the thread and comments of other users regarding the issue and how the admin was able to identify what could be used and what should not be used with respect to the ban,.
 
So in here, the forum still allows the discussion of mixers, but there is no direct or indirect promotion of them and no link to any mixer. You can just talk a little about how mixing works or you can direct the person to where they can get the right information. I think you both are right, just that there are some misuse of words that lead to both of you misunderstanding yourself.

You are very correct mate, the forum still allows for discussion as there are no rules against it though but I think if one decides to talk about it, it is  their own personal business not mine but I was only trying to make emphasis of one being careful. Although there is freedom of information and speech here as to what people converse on. As of the argument on promoting and advertising mixers, it is prohibited and I think that is the major thing we should all know.
460  Economy / Gambling / Re: Reel Crypto - The Best Online Crypto Casino on: January 25, 2024, 12:00:24 PM


Hello everyone,

We would like to give an explanation regarding our KYC option.

Seriously after months of posting this thread you have just back this time to address about KYC and gone again? are you really wanted to advertise in this forum or just wanted to  lure players without caring about their concern , because you are showing no importance to this community , wondering if there are even one from Bitcointalk that deposit and plays here in your platform.

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I really do not see any signs of seriousness in them because if truly they mean business, their representative here could have been very much active or they as re too busy to do so, they could have contacted a reputable member here to help make good representation of their presence so be that members would not be sceptical about them.  They forget to know that first impression and approach matters as that is what potential clients look for before they engage with new deals.

When going through their website review via btcgosu website, I  as well noticed that there have not been a review by any users yet via the review site. So in it would be in gamblers interested to do their due diligence before engaging with them as the presence is not well recognised and understood here.
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