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441  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 10:38:21 PM

added to OP, welcome
442  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 09:35:51 PM
Sorry if this has been asked but eta till machines are physically in hand?

KNC is quoting September delivery
443  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
1 share @ 2.25

http://blockchain.info/tx/93715f872952758a63faa6d15d94c02a39cc830e4341c61136cd959d9d321609

I would like to receive at 1DbB4V2S4swB2BCiSS73yKY7tghqdunSUe

Thanks!
5 share @ 2.25

tx/6aab9738a737b45a98ba25f96d8a951b3117152fda6e006d434cc686be2814db

I would like to receive at 1A5eReFaZFvheFk7RH7DZgXSPUwurnGB7f


Thanks!

Added to OP , welcome to the group :-)

reminder to all future investors that anyone coming in after GB is over will be refunded. Currently we have about 12 hours to finish this GB
444  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 07:35:37 PM
are there still shares open?

currently , yes

investor looking to buy 60 slots, so will be shares left on Jupiter #12

445  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
I don't understand why there is confusion. We are participating in a GROUP buy and in the opening post Soniq clearly states "Each share entitles the owner to 1/360th* of the BTC proceeds from the group of 12 KNC Jupiter's mining 24/7 till no longer profitable or sold (less expenses and management fees)". Since we got to 9 Jupiters, each share entitles to 1/270 of the BTC....

As participants we pro rata share the costs and the income, no matter when we stepped in.

The equality was for me to reason to step in.


refer to post 191 in this thread, original terms stand
446  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 09, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
Soniq,
Could I just clarify that proceeds will be shared out prorata form ALL delivered Jupiters to ALL shareholders.

By that I mean if the first 2 jupiters get up and running first then will all shareholders be getting shares from that moment.

I presume that the jupiter number that a shareholder has contributed towards (e.g. 2nd on your documents) is purely for your own administration and letting us know where you're at.


Is this correct?

Many Thanks

After more consideration and input from several members I have removed the amendment. The original terms will stand until such time as the shareholders can vote to change it.
447  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
you always can convert BTC in USD..

I believe that more people will buy shares from you if you just offer both ways of payment.

I would consider it, but currently I dont have the time to convert USD to BTC.  I ended this GB a little bit early to give me time to clear up any loose ends with KNC.

Interested investors can still buy in after the timer is over.

 PM me before you send any payments however to verify that there is still time and space to enter GB.
448  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 05:44:10 PM


9th Jupiter purchased

Good work everyone
449  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 05:36:44 PM
due to current BTC price drop.. + due to KnC prices based on USD. would you accept Paypal?

I currently have about $3400 interested in paying by Paypal. Would need the full purchase price of one Jupiter in USD as KNC does not allow payment with part BTC/USD.

450  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
I'm not part of this buy but have been watching from the outside.
A couple things the investors need to get clarity on.

1. Is Soniq just a pass-through in essence to get at one or multiple Jupiter orders?  From what I can see he has put no money into it (only the pre-order spot) and at the least gains a maintanence fee because 8 miners have been bought by the group so far.
2. The above is confirmed by the fact that as BTC dropped in value the OP changed (thus his original terms) from 2BTC per 1/360 share to 2.25BTC per 1/360 share.  Destined to go up again with the BTC drop overnight.  This, to me as an outsider, confirms he has no BTC in this group buy.  The group is picking up the extra costs.  Again he just collects a maintainence fee.
3. Power supply has been brought up.  The orders the group made don't include power supplies.  That's $200 or more per unit someone has to buy.  Remember, Soniq hasn't put any money into this group buy, so he's going to push the PSU costs onto the buyers.  Once again, changing his Terms.  And he can just collect the maintenance fee on that too.
4. There's the issue of 1/360 ownership in a "mining collective", versus 1/360 ownership in a group buy, versus 1/360 ownership in 8 units, versus 1/30 ownership in 1 unit.  All confusing and not resolved as I read through as a neutral party.  This needs clarity, yet I feel it may once again change the Terms on the OP.  This will go on the buyers again with skin in the game.  Soniq hasn't skin in the game.  He's just providing a pass-through to a low order number and collecting a handsome maintainence fee for life.

Again, I'm just an outsider following this thread.  It really interests me and I know both groups can resolve all these things.  You guys have been admirable getting this far in a short time.  Just make sure all Terms are clear and there is accountability among all players.

Appreciate all your comments. All issues will be addressed when I have moment to breath.

The share price is adjusted to reflect the exchange rate in USD/BTC as the Jupiters are priced in USD. I am not trying to make a profit on the purchase price.

The cost of the power supplies is a mute point, KNC has not developed a Jupiter yet. When and if they do, it will be a very very small expense relative to the income potential.

The 1/360 ownership will be clarified before any Jupiter hashes. Right now though this opportunity is giving smaller miners a chance to participate in an item they would not normally be able to afford.

I will have some  of my capital invested in this pool( mostly time right now, and will be more time invested after GB is over. updating shareholders, monitoring and or visiting KNC facility, updating shareholder list etc etc)

There has been a few forum posters that have mentioned that I am being paid really well. Yes I will do well if KNC delivers, but I am being paid nothing until then.

And if KNC delivers the shareholder will do well as well. A win win for everyone.
451  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 04:30:52 PM
1 share

TX ID: 151f6f774c480ab2e1b93eba3b180fb0848989235175fe51b15707bc394fcb01

wallet address: 1MXJhz5m5R4zhvdqrZe45xkFigyEiT7UjZ

Cheers

3 Shares

TX ID ad20b8cc487f506b8c936651097ad514128356bac091ff59bf3eb2b61fa72610


Added to OP , thank you for contributing

Currently three shares short for a 9th Jupiter
452  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 08:32:06 AM
Appears that way, will clarify with KNC.

If we  need to  buy, the group will need to buy 12 PSU

453  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 08:00:06 AM
Just a quick one, have you factored in the purchase of a ATX psu for each Jupiter? Smiley

Not sure of power source, where did you read this information?
454  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 04:22:09 AM
Payment Sent for 1 share - 2.25BTC
Txid: f154931c1d495b12d3dc9b8382f115686ec7286bf144b59df7c33e0ce21efbc9

https://blockchain.info/es/tx/f154931c1d495b12d3dc9b8382f115686ec7286bf144b59df7c33e0ce21efbc9

2 shares order --4.5 BTC

TxID: 43cee528342c5031c5f574510c7a3bf2f8d042ed5d116e4a6467a406fb362f90

TXID: 453acc9630f81df3e4ce5a16774ed1edaa24b504f36dcb61d47c3f506b33d627
2 shares - 4.5 BTC

All added to OP, please send email addresses so I can add you to spreadsheet

Thank you for contributing
455  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 08, 2013, 10:51:42 PM
Soniq,
Could I just clarify that proceeds will be shared out prorata form ALL delivered Jupiters to ALL shareholders.

By that I mean if the first 2 jupiters get up and running first then will all shareholders be getting shares from that moment.

I presume that the jupiter number that a shareholder has contributed towards (e.g. 2nd on your documents) is purely for your own administration and letting us know where you're at.


Is this correct?

Many Thanks

I have have clarified this in OP. That priority will be given to shareholders in order they invested  in case of partial delivery.

My reasoning is that this GB is not an recognized equity/offering, but a combined effort to buy 12  Jupiter miners. Therefore your share purchase is buying a portion of earnings from one or more Jupiter miner.  .





Surely everyone should get a share of each and every miner that starts hashing, that is what a group buy for shares in 12 (or part thereof) jupiters is.
Otherwise we have just invested in a group buy of 1x Jupiter, of which you are doing 12 times!
 

My position is not set in stone, and is open for debate and vote if members decide. We can conduct this process off of this thread.  Will create the Bit message and Skype group soon.
456  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 08, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
Payment sent, 11.25BTC for 5 shares of KNC Miner Jupiter.

TX ID:
Code:
7155932a987963cb1a973cd03ada36d2a7e071e286bdcf54a9957c1878405947

Thanks!

Transaction 4a2c60971ec0cdb6218c8e2a9ac3f83db51ba61a29c0ccf5d4f1ade7097833e9


Right back for 1 more share
2.25btc sent
Hopefully under the wire for no8 before the deadline
(Taking me to 3 shares)

https://blockchain.info/tx/44b794b1c2a5570bdab80f33cc809ec0221d4012771b1adfdf407485e8907e95
TXID 44b794b1c2a5570bdab80f33cc809ec0221d4012771b1adfdf407485e8907e95

Wallet as my other 2 shares (I'll PM again)

Thank you


txid: 481472eb7aeb39c315528531ae1845a47f6f1ec2768491d1fa698687a951d302

5 share - 11.25 BTC

Thank you for your payments, added to OP

Cheers
457  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 08, 2013, 10:45:04 PM


8th Jupiter purchased

458  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 7 Sold on: June 08, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
one share purchased
tx: 3bc629e9e9e265d2f088f861a5c24d293ac5c1aba59e16214265505602334a4c


Payment Sent for 1 share - 2.25BTC

Tid:  04481198ef1e9af96d36fb25495630e26ccfaed7f088d928ccde67b3d57d68a8
       

and miner_btc

All Added to OP

Getting close to Jupiter #8
459  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 7 Sold on: June 08, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
One other question, once the miners are set up how can shareholders monitor the  hashing to verify they are getting paid their due share of the profits? Transparency will be fairly important here since we are not receiving a tangible product.

I am not completely sure  yet how KNC will setup my account to view hashing rates.

Once established the account  will either be verified by shareholder access to account or being audited/verified by a third party etc John K
460  Economy / Lending / Re: 240 BTC Loan Request- Asicminer Shares For Collateral on: June 08, 2013, 06:17:50 PM
Giving this a bump to see if there are any more offers as the original price has changed slightly to 256 BTC loan request
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