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why you got red trust op?
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Alright, obviously I'm not fond of the final outcome and I think the whole situation could (and should) have been handled differently but I will accept your decision and close this accusation and remove the negative feedback on your account.
One final question though, does this mean I am completely banned from your website? Or is there any chance you can give me an opportunity to gamble on your site again?
Thank you.
Thanks for understanding. As you agreed with our decision we would like to give you opportunity to continue gamble and also a free bet to participate in our parlay promo. Lets discuss the details in private messages. |
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How much was the chance to win for each of his bets? Odds were ~1.8-1.9 on each selection. Hey, Here's additional proofs of the time glitch being used by the player on 26.03.2017. Example ticket details that shows time zone issue and bet is still available after the game starts abused by the player:  Also chat with support regarding the issue that shows that issue were present on that day:  Also, again, user performance during the day of the issue: As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - ~0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after: Won - 3, Lost - 2
after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3. User comment regarding that he may done this "unintentionally": Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? even if I did it was not intentional...
Even if anyone abuses the platform issue once, not 'unintentionally' multiple times, his account would be suspended/closed as stated in T&Cs. (If you robbing a bank and get caught on friday, you cant just give back stolen money on friday and walk away freely with other money, as an example ) And as mentioned above, OP got successfully withdrawed more than he deposited and also rewarded 200mB as bonus. Guys, here are ADDITIONAL history proofs of issue abused, with proofs that pre-game bets were made after the game started, check them out:         Our T&Cs item that describes what must happen if any issue is abused even once: BetOpen shall be entitled to close or suspend your account if:
- BetOpen considers that you have used the Website in a fraudulent manner or for illegal and/or unlawful or improper purposes;
- BetOpen considers that you have used the Website in an unfair manner, have deliberately cheated or taken unfair advantage of BetOpen or any of its customers or if your account is being used for the benefit of a third party;So, to sum up provided proofs:- Indirect evidences:
Unusually perfect performance with very small possibility of the user on the day of issue present
Proof provided that issue were really present on the discussed day
User even agrees that he may abused issue:
Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? even if I did it was not intentional...
- Direct evidences:
Provided detailed history with highlighted timestamps that shows abuse
Provided T&Cs statement with the punishment that should be executed even if advantage is taken once (here we have proofs of multiple abuse)We hope provided proofs could help to clear our honest name from this wrong accusations and show that all our actions were fair, right and according to our rules that anyone could check on the site.We showed that you've violated the rules multiple times, we can't say what were your intentions, this is straight facts. It's our right and obligation to follow our T&Cs even for a single violation, so you can't say that we're scamming, we just following the rules as we should. |
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How much was the chance to win for each of his bets? Odds were ~1.8-1.9 on each selection. Hey, Here's additional proofs of the time glitch being used by the player on 26.03.2017. Example ticket details that shows time zone issue and bet is still available after the game starts abused by the player: Also chat with support regarding the issue that shows that issue were present on that day: Also, again, user performance during the day of the issue: As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - ~0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after: Won - 3, Lost - 2
after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3. User comment regarding that he may done this "unintentionally": Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? even if I did it was not intentional...
Even if anyone abuses the platform issue once, not 'unintentionally' multiple times, his account would be suspended/closed as stated in T&Cs. (If you robbing a bank and get caught on friday, you cant just give back stolen money on friday and walk away freely with other money, as an example ) And as mentioned above, OP got successfully withdrawed more than he deposited and also rewarded 200mB as bonus. Guys, here are ADDITIONAL history proofs of issue abused, with proofs that pre-game bets were made after the game started, check them out: Our T&Cs item that describes what must happen if any issue is abused even once: BetOpen shall be entitled to close or suspend your account if:
- BetOpen considers that you have used the Website in a fraudulent manner or for illegal and/or unlawful or improper purposes;
- BetOpen considers that you have used the Website in an unfair manner, have deliberately cheated or taken unfair advantage of BetOpen or any of its customers or if your account is being used for the benefit of a third party;So, to sum up provided proofs:- Indirect evidences:
Unusually perfect performance with very small possibility of the user on the day of issue present
Proof provided that issue were really present on the discussed day
User even agrees that he may abused issue:
Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? even if I did it was not intentional...
- Direct evidences:
Provided detailed history with highlighted timestamps that shows abuse
Provided T&Cs statement with the punishment that should be executed even if advantage is taken once (here we have proofs of multiple abuse)We hope provided proofs could help to clear our honest name from this wrong accusations and show that all our actions were fair, right and according to our rules that anyone could check on the site. |
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Why would someone deposit more than 1/4 BTC, simply because they want to play many different games at many different amounts (like the true gambler they are seeking). I did not deposit simply to beat them on the promotion, I deposited to gamble and have fun.
This is how our deposit bonus system works. It counts first deposit and rollovers as stated in our T&Cs and bonus description pages, all are written clearly as other users mentioned. You can still make first deposit for 200mB and within a minute add another 2 or more btc, for example and play as much as you want with rollover counting by the system. We're sorry if you've got this misleadingly, but this is described as it works on our website. |
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If a bookmaker is getting exploited, the bookie can kick the player out. They are not obligated to keep the player around for the next time he finds a glitch and takes another shot!
But user already has gotten winnings out, more than the deposits right? And the bonus.
Thanks for your feedback, you're right. We should 100% stick to our T&Cs because any player should be able to see that they are 100% utilized by us and expect that both he and us are fully commiting to the rules provided. That's why this is our right, and our decision is correct and it's better for everyone in the future that T&Cs are fullfilled as they are written. |
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I request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency.
Its upto one, but always think logically before calling out someone/something a scam. As per the response from the Betopen owners that i got , i was able to infer that at the time the player made the stake/bet at the vary day the system(site) was having un-synchronized server timing , if you own a sportsbook then you would had known this that if the time-stamp is lagging in server then the slip still available after the required time. This fault generally occur and you can see the delay in feed if you know the time lag between williamhills and betfair , almost 10 sec gap, it could prove to be fatal if there is huge potential bet placed at that very instance.
never though i dont want to take you guys off the topic but yeah a time-stamp discover can be a potential reason why the player was so lucky that day, the amount here staked is not important but to save a credible platform. i will suggest betopen to prove this with proper documentation that there was indeed a glitch.It is better to wait for what will betopen do to eliminate red marks on his account. Frankly playing at a site where the admin get a red trust will be very uncomfortable. It is better to avoid it until all problem has been resolved! Responded in the requested topic, please write your comments there, here will be posted new announcements/updates etc. |
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Hey, Here's additional proofs of the time glitch being used by the player on 26.03.2017. Example ticket details that shows time zone issue and bet is still available after the game starts abused by the player: Also chat with support regarding the issue that shows that issue were present on that day: Also, again, user performance during the day of the issue: As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - ~0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after: Won - 3, Lost - 2
after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3. User comment regarding that he may done this "unintentionally": Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? even if I did it was not intentional...
Even if anyone abuses the platform issue once, not 'unintentionally' multiple times, his account would be suspended/closed as stated in T&Cs. (If you robbing a bank and get caught on friday, you cant just give back stolen money on friday and walk away freely with other money, as an example ) And as mentioned above, OP got successfully withdrawed more than he deposited and also rewarded 200mB as bonus. |
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In order to participate in the competition, you need to place parlay bet with 5+ selections on BetOpen platform.
The biggest winner will get GALAXY S8, runner ups will receive free bets.Rules: Min bet: 0.1 BTC Min odd for any selection: 1.7 Min parlay selections: 5 You can also participate in twitter competition to win free bets: Post any tweet with mentioning @betopensport, hash tags #betopen #sportsbook #bitcon and link to our platform to join.Users with most amount of retweets will get free bets on BetOpen platform. The winner of GALAXY S8 and other prizes will be announced in the beginning of June. Bet now and win big! Good Luck BETOPEN.COCheck out BetOpen BitcoinTalk Topic to see main advantages (like 125% bonuses), updates and many more. Hey guys, we've updated the rules and now the required bet for participating is lowered to 0.1 BTC |
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Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.
It was just updated to answer them all |
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Why will you not just reset my winnings from that day?
Any fraud usage is punished by closure of the account (and also you've used the fraudalent obtained coins to increase the balance more and counting them as fair), we just offered you ability to continue betting honestly by keeping account active, which you denied. Lets stop the discussion, as said before we won't change our decision. If we wanted just to keep your coins, we could block account without any explanations, discussions and chats here as other sportsbooks do. But you will never see any feedback like that from our users, your case is the only one with this kind of issue. So any blames to us about "scam" that were brought before are empty and unfair. |
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Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? I highly doubt that I did that and even if I did it was not intentional.
Please show me the bets with timestamp which were wrong in your eyes.
This is violation of the rules, punished as described in T&Cs so intention doesn't matter. As i said above, timestamps were also affected by the issue and weren't saved correctly. And we can not disclose backend/server info. |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
All of this so called proofs are assumptions only, which means it doesnt prove anything, The percetage you are telling where you based your judgement which is 0.00024% is bullshit. One fact and explanation on that is the powerball lottery where the chance of winning is 0.00000057%, and still there is someone winning it. The percentage is calculated correctly, i think you forgot that powerball lottery sells hundreds of millions of tickets before win happens, we don't operate such amounts. You can see the basic tickets info on the last page, but more details will not give additional proof, because tickets info (like time) also were affected by the issue. Issue were related to server time zones, and gave ability to place pre-game bets during and after the game, that's all that we can safely disclose/show. We can't give backend/server details. And we won't change the decision about this case. So i hope we stop meaningful discussion about it. We're distributed globally. |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons).
As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10
The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2
2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
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I don't think this competition is fair you want us to bet on your site on 5 events worth 0.1 btc = 110$ x 5 times with odds or freakin 1.7 odds so basically if 10 people participate and it is very hard to win a bet with this odd so you basically earn 5000$ while the new s8 costs 800$. Another think for all who want to participate the s7 and most of the features s8 has so upgrading isn't worth and s7 is now 400$ so instead of risking 500$ buy the 400$ phone. And also price in june will be around 600$ so finally it's your wish guys.
No, you didn't understand, you should place a parlay for 5 selection with total bet 0.1+ btc, not bet 0.1*5, so you risk $110, not as you said. Why do you think it's not fair to give brand new phone(cost $800-1000) in addition to winnings?) And also i assure you, that price will not drop within a year, this is currently the best smartphone in the world. |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250:
- Register for an account with BetOpen;
- Make your first deposit;
- Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation;
- Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market)
Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. As stated in our T&C and bonus description to get the 125% bonus you should complete rollover (rollover of the initial deposit). System is counting bets that are the same size and more as a deposit. So if you deposit 200mB you need to bet for 2btc and you will get 250mB immediately available for withdrawal. A lot of players already received this bonus. You can still deposit > 200mB as first deposit, but for counting as rollover your bets should be the size of your first deposit (again as stated on bonus description and T&Cs). So this is not added after we deposit and claim the bonus? It will only be credited after we bet 2 btc, am I right? Yes, and it's immediately available for betting/withdrawals etc. |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250:
- Register for an account with BetOpen;
- Make your first deposit;
- Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation;
- Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market)
Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. As stated in our T&C and bonus description to get the 125% bonus you should complete rollover (rollover of the initial deposit). System is counting bets that are the same size and more as a deposit. So if you deposit 200mB you need to bet for 2btc and you will get 250mB immediately available for withdrawal. A lot of players already received this bonus. You can still deposit > 200mB as first deposit, but for counting as rollover your bets should be the size of your first deposit (again as stated on bonus description and T&Cs). |
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