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April 04, 2017, 05:00:16 AM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement.
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minime0105
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April 04, 2017, 05:47:54 AM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus.
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April 04, 2017, 06:16:42 AM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. Thanks, it seems that I misunderstand the term, generally most sportsbook offer rollover based on deposit plus bonus.
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 06:18:18 AM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. As stated in our T&C and bonus description to get the 125% bonus you should complete rollover (rollover of the initial deposit). System is counting bets that are the same size and more as a deposit. So if you deposit 200mB you need to bet for 2btc and you will get 250mB immediately available for withdrawal. A lot of players already received this bonus. You can still deposit > 200mB as first deposit, but for counting as rollover your bets should be the size of your first deposit (again as stated on bonus description and T&Cs).
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casinobonusgiveaway
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April 04, 2017, 06:23:54 AM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. As stated in our T&C and bonus description to get the 125% bonus you should complete rollover (rollover of the initial deposit). System is counting bets that are the same size and more as a deposit. So if you deposit 200mB you need to bet for 2btc and you will get 250mB immediately available for withdrawal. A lot of players already received this bonus. You can still deposit > 200mB as first deposit, but for counting as rollover your bets should be the size of your first deposit (again as stated on bonus description and T&Cs). So this is not added after we deposit and claim the bonus? It will only be credited after we bet 2 btc, am I right?
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 06:52:44 AM Last edit: April 04, 2017, 07:16:29 AM by BetOpen |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable 200 mbtc and get 250 mbtc bonus, so you have 450 mbtc in total, we need to complete 450*10= 4.5 btc for wager requirement. It is very clear here that you didnt read their T&C, kindly read first before posting please. It is stated their, "that bonus roll over is 10x the first deposit amount", not including the bonus. As stated in our T&C and bonus description to get the 125% bonus you should complete rollover (rollover of the initial deposit). System is counting bets that are the same size and more as a deposit. So if you deposit 200mB you need to bet for 2btc and you will get 250mB immediately available for withdrawal. A lot of players already received this bonus. You can still deposit > 200mB as first deposit, but for counting as rollover your bets should be the size of your first deposit (again as stated on bonus description and T&Cs). So this is not added after we deposit and claim the bonus? It will only be credited after we bet 2 btc, am I right? Yes, and it's immediately available for betting/withdrawals etc.
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minime0105
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April 04, 2017, 07:16:45 AM |
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Not being a troll, and no offense intended, since you have the time of answering deposit bonuses, You should also have the time to answer serious allegations, issues and queries, not run into them. Right now, I'm starting to think that you dont jave a license for operating a gambling site, and that is not only bad for you, but also Bad to the players using your site!
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jujugoboom
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April 04, 2017, 08:17:41 AM |
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I want to hear how do you solve m0w's issue, if you can't fix that scam accusation, you won't get much customers because you are scammer.
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oxygen88
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April 04, 2017, 08:29:31 AM |
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how can the site just confiscate customer funds without a proper explanation, that is a lot of money.
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 11:37:31 AM |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons). As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10 The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2 2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 12:24:01 PM |
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Once again I have seen no proof that I actually cheated. You only mention some vulnerability that I used?
Please provide more info (via pm or email). Also, like I already suggested in my email, just take away my winnings from that day and return the other funds that were also in my account, which I won during other days were I supposedly didn't cheat using your so called vulnerabilities
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 12:38:10 PM |
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Also, my account is now completely closed by BetOpen, meaning I have no possibilities to show the bets I placed and prove my innocence
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antdee
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April 04, 2017, 01:03:06 PM |
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show us the detailed bet history from that day betopen
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RichDaniel
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April 04, 2017, 01:39:37 PM |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons). As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10 The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2 2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
You are an idiot, if he didn't modify the bets(which is impossible for he fixed the game too) you should pay him, you have no proof, all your conclusion is assumption.
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minime0105
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April 04, 2017, 03:17:30 PM |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons). As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10 The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2 2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
All of this so called proofs are assumptions only, which means it doesnt prove anything, 1. Show the bet details, if it is a prematch bet then user is probably innocent. 2. The vulnerability you are telling, since you said it is already fixed by the dev team, you can disclosed it and how he used it, then you can prove he is really fraudalent. 3. The percetage you are telling where you based your judgement which is 0.00024% is bullshit. One fact and explanation on that is the powerball lottery where the chance of winning is 0.00000057%, and still there is someone winning it. 4. Dont ignore users asking where is your location, and your license to operate. Disclose it. Still.AVOID THE SITE, until issues, inquiries and allegations are not resolved .
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 04:00:33 PM |
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So again, regarding mow case...
His account was flagged with fraud/suspicious activity, because on that day vulnerability were present on our website(it were fixed by dev team the day later). We can't provide the technical details of the issue (due to security reasons). As an example of the outcome of this vulnerability for this user, we could show more detailed view on his bets.
2 days before the issue were active: Won - 7, Lost - 10 The day before : Won - 8, Lost - 7
On the day issue were active : WON - 21(same sport and bet type), Lost - 2. Probability - 0.00024%, which means average user will need to place same amount of bets for 416667 days (1141 years) to 100% achieve the same result
1 day after issue was fixed: Won - 3, Lost - 2 2 days after issue was fixed: Won - 1, Lost - 3.
After the investigation by the team, account status were set as fraudalent/taken advantage of the platform and by our T&Cs (and any other sporstbook) we should have just close it. But we decided to offer user the ability to play honestly by reseting the balance(our mistake). After this user starts to trade and threaten us by arguing on this forum. Of course here he says that we are bad and he were just super hugely "lucky" on the day of vulnerability happened.
By the way, user have also received 200mB bonus before and have successfully withdrawed more than he deposited.
All of this so called proofs are assumptions only, which means it doesnt prove anything, The percetage you are telling where you based your judgement which is 0.00024% is bullshit. One fact and explanation on that is the powerball lottery where the chance of winning is 0.00000057%, and still there is someone winning it. The percentage is calculated correctly, i think you forgot that powerball lottery sells hundreds of millions of tickets before win happens, we don't operate such amounts. You can see the basic tickets info on the last page, but more details will not give additional proof, because tickets info (like time) also were affected by the issue. Issue were related to server time zones, and gave ability to place pre-game bets during and after the game, that's all that we can safely disclose/show. We can't give backend/server details. And we won't change the decision about this case. So i hope we stop meaningful discussion about it. We're distributed globally.
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:13:00 PM |
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Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? I highly doubt that I did that and even if I did it was not intentional.
Please show me the bets with timestamp which were wrong in your eyes.
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 04:19:33 PM |
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Okay, so I placed bets during and after the games had ended? I highly doubt that I did that and even if I did it was not intentional.
Please show me the bets with timestamp which were wrong in your eyes.
This is violation of the rules, punished as described in T&Cs so intention doesn't matter. As i said above, timestamps were also affected by the issue and weren't saved correctly. And we can not disclose backend/server info.
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:22:23 PM |
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Haha okay, so you say I placed bets during and after the games but cannot back this up with any evidence. Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me to be honest.
Why will you not just reset my winnings from that day?
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:28:37 PM |
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But there was NO fraudulent activity like I already told you.
You claim there is but cannot even provide any evidence and just come up with random facts
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