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4401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 07, 2016, 04:38:14 AM
when I had to reverse engineer what they were doing from the source code

The white paper wasn't available? If you figured out the white paper from the source code, I am impressed.

White paper wasn't available until later.

Impressive. So you mentioned our past (written) conversations might have influenced you to be tuned in to the possible value which might have influenced you to expend that effort to climb down the rabbit hole into the source code. Again that is impressive sleuthing.

I remember reading Dan's blog about how to do (and as compared to an ICO, the potential legality advantages of) a sneaky mine (which was around the time I was just starting to transition my understanding about the legalities of issuing crypto-currencies to my current stance) and I remember you taking note of it publicly on BCT. And I do remember pointing you towards the Larimers last year, and then myself just walking away after a few minutes in their Bitshares forum because I could see the governance for funding model of DPoS was REKTED which Dan now admits (he reiterates this in the recent interview with the @dollarvigilente). And I remember being aware of the plans for Peerplays as I was working on Jambox. But I don't watch ANNs because I am not into mining. And besides I was spread far too thin to be climbing down more rabbit holes than I already am.
4402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 10:42:55 PM
Btw, I am contemplating entirely eliminating downvoting.

As well, upvoting needs to be different than liking the argument of a blog post:

Please don't downvote my reputation just because you disagree with my opinion. That is what the Reply button is for.

I think thinking every post needs a poll (e.g. Agree/Disagree) in addition to an upvoting button for relevance. The upvoting button should be "I want to read more content of this quality, topic, and readership coterie".



Wait, so you're trying to discourage groupthink with a level of agreement/disagreement button--some things we're better off not knowing why--the imagination sometimes gets jolted by its unknowingness.

People want to express their reaction to content. If we conflate their opinion of agreement with the relevance of the content for their attention, then we don't have an attention relevance metric rather some Frankenstein. I may disagree with a blog post and be compelled to express it with a quick click, but it may not mean I want to hide that content from my future attention. Without an accurate relevance algorithm, we will encourage groupthink, because attention (i.e. ranking) drives votes and rewards.
4403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
Btw, I am contemplating entirely eliminating downvoting.

As well, upvoting needs to be different than liking the argument of a blog post:

Please don't downvote my reputation just because you disagree with my opinion. That is what the Reply button is for.

I think thinking every post needs a poll (e.g. Agree/Disagree) in addition to an upvoting button for relevance. The upvoting button should be "I want to read more content of this quality, topic, and readership coterie".

4404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETC is now 3rd crypto marketcap in the world!!! on: August 06, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
I speculate that this recent price will not hold. Some traders will take profit at the first sign that there will be weakness. It has moved up very quickly and it makes it unstable because the buy support cannot catch up.

I speculate it won't stop until everyone has sold their ETH for ETC. This will accelerate as more and more idiots realize that if they don't sell ETH, they will lose all.

Fools are slow to act until they panic at the end.

Also you are underestimating the power of bull run vortex on crypto speculators. Crypto speculators tend to dive headfirst into opportunities to make a quick 300% gain.

ETH has no future because Vitalik proved the blockchain can't be trusted. If we want blockchains to remain immutable, ETC must win. I think Bitcoin supporters will make sure ETC wins against ETH.

I think the DAO benefactor hacker is likely profiting big time on  leveraged ETH shorts, while being leveraged long on ETC. So he can use proceeds to drive the price the direction he wants, while never needing to actually cash out of ETC.

Bitcoin investors would love to see ETC kill ETH. And if they can make money doing that, then it is a nobrainer.

But there is an equivalent number of ETC in the Ethereum foundation's premine of ETH. Don't you think Vitalik will once again make a desperate move to save the fork by dumping all the ETC they can potentially have and buy ETH with it?

My estimated guess is he is naive but not that dumb (to think he can fight the market with certainty). Remember he did diversify and sold 25% of his ETH, having learned from holding BTC all the way down in 2014/5.

And if he does, then it will just be Vitalik destroying himself at the end, while the other fools have one more chance to sell ETH to Vitalik so he is left holding the bag.  Cheesy

That is unless Vitalik can work some of his mesmerizing magic with his words, somehow deluding a large swath of people that he can create something for ETH that would justify the loss of immutability trustlessness of the blockchain. I don't think he can any more. He has played that card already. ETC can copy any open source improvements worth having. Some mETH heads might be thinking Ethereum is leaderless if Vitalik loses this battle, but I don't think ETC investors care. Speculators want to make a buck and if they can enforce correct ideology as well, all for the better. Perhaps some fresh opportunities for others to contribute on the concept of smart blockchains might spawn some new innovation that Vitalik et al didn't accomplish in 2 years. They were given $millions to play with and so it isn't like they didn't get theirs or weren't given every opportunity to perform.

I am hoping Vitalik will capitulate and join ETC and in more of a subservient (as in serving and honorable) role to the community. That would be the best outcome I think. The correct ideology would win, Vitalik would grow up, etc..

P.S. I am assuming the financial back of the price manipulator behind ETH will be broken. If that is not the case, then I guess we could ride a yoyo seesaw. I think perhaps this manipulator is hedging his options.

I may have overestimated Vitalik. He appears determined to fight to the end and destroy himself entirely:

Vitalik Buterin confirmed via Twitter that he will work 100% on ETH and still won't support ETC, even if the price of ETC overtakes the price of ETH.

Vitalik is in a state of denial:

Quote from: Vitalik@Twitter
No, it's about values. ETH = reasonableness, pragmatism and compromise.

Ethereum's Turing complete shit on a blockchain is not reasonable, pragmatic, nor even a compromise. It is a disaster that others are going to need to rescue.

Disagree. ETH will be attacked by hackers and riddled with arguments over bailouts and rollbacks. ETC will stand as "the code is the law" and will become the more trusted sandbox to run these dangerous Turing complete experiments. Please don't downvote my reputation just because you disagree with my opinion. That is what the Reply button is for.
4405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 06, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
when I had to reverse engineer what they were doing from the source code

The white paper wasn't available? If you figured out the white paper from the source code, I am impressed.
4406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 06, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
Afaics, Steem has no designed solution yet for plagiarism:

The solution is curation.

The question is: Can curation scale?

Probably not against Whac-A-Mole.
4407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 06, 2016, 07:49:34 PM
Afaics, Steem has no designed solution yet for plagiarism:

Quote from: samupaha
When you find a plagiarist, it's good to leave the link (or other evidence) in the comments so that everybody else can see it before they upvote.

As I noted three days ago, your suggestion isn't that effective:

Here a key weakness of Steem's voting and relevance algorithm:

https://youtu.be/rkQ7b-u8_6g?t=698

And unfortunately Dan's expectation is not what is always happening as exemplified in my case.

I think this problem can only be improved when account identities can't be Sybil attacked (i.e. are verified identities and the same person isn't allowed to create multiple disposable identities) and then when rankings and rewards more accurately reflect readership demand to squelch those accounts with bad reputations. To that end, I am currently contemplating that the rankings and reputation system needs to more resemble a WoT (Web of Trust).
4408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which crypto is truly anonymous? on: August 06, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
Which crypto is truly anonymous?

None. Will never exist. That is if you mean truly anonymous from the NSA.

Your question should be which offers the highest amount of anonymity mixing. The answer is Zerocash.
4409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 07:32:21 PM
The big picture:

  • Decentralized security authority.
  • Decentralized content authority of all forms including apps.
  • Decentralized authority in general (trustless, no one has systemic control).
4410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 06:08:12 PM
On security of crypto-currency transactions:

@dan, in essence your proposal could be that I have a multi-sig on my transfers and if there is any double-spend within 30 days of any transfer, then the multi-sig is the tie breaker. I can update the multi-sig at any time, and of course nothing I sign becomes final until 30 days or there is a multi-sig  (including the entire tree chain) which every is earliest. The details of what the multi-sig parties verify is orthogonal, except that you also propose a multi-sig can be a tree (chain) of multi-sigs.

The tradeoff of course is that transfers are double-spendable for 30 days, which kills your plans for an instant transfer merchant ecosystem. The solution to that is to have separate smaller balance which is transferrable immediately and can't be recovered. This is funded with a 30 day delay (or accelerated by multi-sig, but turtles all the way up the tree chain of multi-sigs) from the main balance which remains protected by this proposal. I am giving away to you one of my design points of the system I was designing before Steem was announced. Any way, it is an obvious point that you would have eventually arrived at.

Btw, I think this needs to go in another blog post, because I don't think laymen (and the world outside of Steem's current readership) yet understand that the main problem(s) of crypto-currency security/theft have been conceptually solved (including my DEX design in that to stop the theft from centralized exchanges).
4411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Security breach exchange Bitfinex - Update 6th of Aug 2016 on: August 06, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
I told you they would be forced to pool the losses, and I updated that logic/explanation today:

I don't think the non-BTC accounts are protected. Even if they were also segregated accounts, the bankrupty of Bitfinex should view all segregrated accounts in equal legal standing, thus they all must suffer proportionally.

The theft is Bitfinex's liability.

So all non-BTC accounts on Bitfinex should be affected proportionally. I presume Bitfinex will eventually realize this. Unless law is somehow different in Hong Kong.

I presume the knee-jerk selloff of BTC is an overreaction. Bitfinex still has significant resources, so everyone on Bitfinex should probably get a loss but not a total loss.

Joel Katz is mistaken:

As I explained  four days before, your logic that bankruptcy is required is incorrect because presumably the BTC funds held at Bitgo were not partitioned according to segregated accounts, thus the BTC is part of BTC and non-BTC pool of assets which backs all segregrated accounts BTC and possibly also non-BTC. Your logic would only apply to physical non-fungible assets. Thus even if Bitfinex were not bankrupt, it would still need to spread the loss proportionally to all "segregated" accounts BTC and non-BTC. The concept of segregated account is not to be used for what you are thinking, rather it is to protect the account holder from a lawsuit against Bitfinex which would attempt to grab those assets marked as owned by the segregated account owners. But since these assets are not partitioned by account number, then all of the BTC and possibly also non-BTC accounts are of equal standing w.r.t. to the asset pool. So although Bitfinex would be bankrupt if they could not pay the BTC account holders out of proportional losses for other account holders (BTC and/or non-BTC), they do not have to declare bankruptcy in order to spread the losses proportionally, unless the assets were partitioned by segregated account number. But with a fungible, electronic asset, it seems entirely arbitrary to mark some fungible units for some accounts if all were accessible by the same password set vulnerability. The vulnerability indicates the assets were not partitioned, at least not for all BTC account holders although perhaps one could make an argument that the non-BTC assets were partitioned since they were apparently not subject to the same vulnerability as partitioned. QED.

In other words, the pertinent qualifier is, “segregated from what?”. The crypto assets were segregated at least from the other business liabilities of Bitfinex, but not from each other (or at least not BTC accounts segregated from each other).
4412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
Why I stopped powering down my STEEM Power

Given the support I've received here and the fact I no longer have looming financial concerns I can now begin to save up to pay off my debts and start saving up for my first home. One thing that donned on me was that STEEM has a built in Savings account. Initially I was powering down to earn that little extra each week to help offset my expenses. I won't be powering down my account any time soon, Firstly because I no longer need to.. And secondly to show my support for STEEM, Steemit.com and the awesome developers that made it possible.

I'm holding onto my STEEM Power, as a show of my support for the future of the network!

That is a key realization about the concept which is also paramount in the way I was already thinking of restructuring Steem's design.

And it also pertains to my logic on why I think that Steem dollars are unnecessary. Note I am not intending to design a system to bailout people quickly from their messed up lives (as this guy will eventually find out that Steem's large easy payouts are not sustainable and so I hope he has stabilized his life asap). That is not to say I don't appreciate being bailed out of my cash flow problem by Steem, rather that it is not in the best interests of a correctly designed system IMO. This bleeding heart change-a-life works for Steem as a first noble driver of interest (and I have nothing against charity when individuals are tipping from their own wallets, not a collectivized one[1]), but it is not a good model for sustainably onboarding the masses. That is not to say there wouldn't also be instances in the design I am contemplating, but they wouldn't be as easy to attain (lotto-ish). In my design, the serious money goes to the serious content producers. The moderate rewards go to the average users who must keep it invested to see it grow into something very valuable:

Edit: but without the quadratic voting rewards, it is arguable that Steem would lose some (most?) of the hype and promotion. This is one of the reasons why I incorporated another reward into my design.


[1] Some of you may remember I distributed $5000+ in charity provided by vokain and rpietila (mostly vokain) to victims of typhoon Yolanda and specifically documented with photos several examples of the new roofs that were constructed. Some where I still have all the Palawan Padala receipts documenting that.
4413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 06, 2016, 04:24:21 PM
Btw, if you are planning to make a clone, do not ask for names (publicly) or say names out loud for obvious reasons.

I'd mention the name I have already, but the .com is $3000+ and I don't want to spend that out of my limited cash reserve unless I am very close to launch. I've got the .org, .net, .co, and .us already. After sleeping on the name choice I have finalized on, I am liking it more and more. It is really great because it captures the esteem concept while also being more general and appropriate to upvoting and sharing on all media types, including music, etc..

I moved away from my "jambox" or use of the term "jammin". I do have one alternative name not "fanjam" (which is also quite good! but suffers from the copycat problem) with the term "jam" in it. But I am nearly certain everyone will like my main choice.

Btw, I am contemplating entirely eliminating downvoting.

I guess I will go ahead and share the name I was originally thinking of using but even though it was catchy, I realized quickly that is was entirely the wrong meaning (except perhaps for the music content I am planning to go after later):

fanjam (note the .com is in use but I think not seriously)

Please do not criticize me for that name, as I did not continue with it. I registered the .us for $1 only while I gave myself more time to catch up on other duties (and also because I was having some brain fog due to my illness and put it on back burner until that abated) then returned to it and realized it was not the right meaning even though my gf and others liked it as very catchy and inducing.

Note the Jambox name was originally intended to focus on music sharing and after that apps in general (starting with games). So the "box" was your mobile device. It was all supposed to be in there. But Steem's example is that user created content is lower hanging fruit, so needed to move entirely away from "box" or confined to mobile devices. I still want to go after the music and apps later.

My long range goal is to entirely replace the Android and iOS APIs and app developers will program to a new API which abstracts those. We have these sort of platforms already, but not within an ecosystem which is larger than Android and iOS. I am annoyed at the bastardization of my mobile device by Google and Samsung. Fucking thing updates and installs shit without my permission and basically I am no longer in control of my device! (Yeah I know I heard I need to buy a Nexus or other brand, but I can't find here in Philippines and/or too expensive for me at this time, and besides I like to use mainstream stuff so I can see the problems that need to be solved for the masses)

I am thinking really big. I want to create a new programming language that compiles to JavaScript. Etc.

But we usually crawl before we walk before we sprint.

I am intending to replace the web browser also (unify it with mobile and the concept of an OS). Big dreams but I don't need to get all the way there in order to declare success. I will bite it off in morsels of lowest hanging fruit first. And have to observe my health also (which has been getting sometimes very good and very encouraging).

I (the goals) need capital to fund and motivate those big plans. Not just monetary capital but also the network effects capital of ideas and ecosystems. And I hope to get the capital I need from doing this first stage which is to compete with Steem. Or will see if that ends up causing myself and/or my goals to become folded into the Steem ecosystem instead.
4414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 06, 2016, 04:16:52 PM
Which make steemit a virtual stripclub...

See the edit of my prior post.

If the rewards and ranking algorithm was not quadratic then no one would be getting $16,000 unless they have 1000s of votes. And thus not everyone would be seeing that playmate blog at the top of the rankings. Thus the perception of Steemit as any one content focus would not be occurring.

Edit: but without the quadratic voting rewards, it is arguable that Steem would lose some (most?) of the hype and promotion. This is one of the reasons why I incorporated another reward into my design.
4415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 06, 2016, 04:04:15 PM
Another example where smooth and are not always like-minded on voting and this is another example that we need to fix the voting algorithm to group like-mindedness (i.e. I should have not seen this blog post so highly ranked as it was irrelevant for me ... although while the voting rewards and ranking algorithm is what it is, then this is relevant for me and causes discord):

I downvoted this “shit” because the playmate was doing what she does best, and which is a fact of our society and the way the mating game works. You are just parasiting on her coattails and adding value only for those who are jealous and/or incapable of accepting facts of life and mating game theory.

I am not arguing that the playmate should have received $16,000 for her blog post, but that is not her fault. It is the fault of the voting rewards and ranking algorithm design of Steem. Note that while the algorithm is what is, then this blog posts appears to me and is relevant in the sense that I need to post to argue that your post is irrelevant to me in an more correctly designed ranking system. But for now, it is relevant (and thus not shit), because the algorithm causes discord and I need to post my objection.
4416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bitfinex legal obligations to users on: August 06, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
I don't think the non-BTC accounts are protected. Even if they were also segregated accounts, the bankrupty of Bitfinex should view all segregrated accounts in equal legal standing, thus they all must suffer proportionally.

The theft is Bitfinex's liability.

So all non-BTC accounts on Bitfinex should be affected proportionally. I presume Bitfinex will eventually realize this. Unless law is somehow different in Hong Kong.

I presume the knee-jerk selloff of BTC is an overreaction. Bitfinex still has significant resources, so everyone on Bitfinex should probably get a loss but not a total loss.

Joel Katz is mistaken:

As I explained  four days before, your logic that bankruptcy is required is incorrect because presumably the BTC funds held at Bitgo were not partitioned according to segregated accounts, thus the BTC is part of BTC and non-BTC pool of assets which backs all segregrated accounts BTC and possibly also non-BTC. Your logic would only apply to physical non-fungible assets. Thus even if Bitfinex were not bankrupt, it would still need to spread the loss proportionally to all "segregated" accounts BTC and non-BTC. The concept of segregated account is not to be used for what you are thinking, rather it is to protect the account holder from a lawsuit against Bitfinex which would attempt to grab those assets marked as owned by the segregated account owners. But since these assets are not partitioned by account number, then all of the BTC and possibly also non-BTC accounts are of equal standing w.r.t. to the asset pool. So although Bitfinex would be bankrupt if they could not pay the BTC account holders out of proportional losses for other account holders (BTC and/or non-BTC), they do not have to declare bankruptcy in order to spread the losses proportionally, unless the assets were partitioned by segregated account number. But with a fungible, electronic asset, it seems entirely arbitrary to mark some fungible units for some accounts if all were accessible by the same password set vulnerability. The vulnerability indicates the assets were not partitioned, at least not for all BTC account holders although perhaps one could make an argument that the non-BTC assets were partitioned since they were apparently not subject to the same vulnerability as partitioned. QED.

In other words, the pertinent qualifier is, “segregated from what?”. The crypto assets were segregated at least from the other business liabilities of Bitfinex, but not from each other (or at least not BTC accounts segregated from each other).
4417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 05, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
Well at least nobody can say that steemit isn't pushing crypto to mainstream adoption. "Bimbos" and playmates are now using cryptocurrency.... Cool

I am very excited about Steem conceptually because it validates the concepts for marketing I was thinking about for Jambox. (That is not to say I am convinced that Steem's exact design can cross the chasm to millions of users)

Steem innovates how to distribute the tokens into the hands of the masses, i.e. the onboarding problem.

I was also thinking the social networking participants had to earn the tokens somehow and I was trying to think of ways they could (one of the ideas I had which was mining, failed in the final analysis).

I didn't think of collectivizing the control over the debasement, because I am generally against collectivism and because of every design I thought of for that was unsound. And it turns out to be a technically valid criticism because afaics Steem can't get out of the whale controlled quadratic weighting quagmire for as long as the debasement control is collectivized without encountering game theory failures on the incentives to not vote for oneself. And one of the key aspects I want to change about Steem is that the debasement will be under individualized control (without raising the cognitive load that causes microtransaction tipping to not work) while still of course collectivized in economic effect. This will enable my design to fix what I think is an insoluble game theory problem in Steem. But no one should take these words as fact. Until everything is peer reviewed in a white paper, then just assume I may have mistakes in my thought process.

What happened is that the split between STEEM and STEEM POWER caused me to have epiphany. That is where the crux of the innovation of Steem lies in my opinion. But I think they could structure it differently with better attributes.
4418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 05, 2016, 01:33:04 PM
Well that post came about because of research I was doing for the coding I was doing. I wasn't planning to blog, it just fell out into my lap. (Edit: and I needed to write that down any way, so better to put the content on a blockchain)

I really needed some money cushion, because I have a negative net worth, no income, and the cash I have isn't even mine and that had fallen to $9000 with roughly ($350+$80+$100+$256+$300+$100+$150+$100+50=) $1586 monthly burn rate not including any gadgets or techie expenses (such as domain registrations, etc). Oh that doesn't exclude the $250 I pay every 6 months to renew tourist visa and soon I will have to fly out of the country to renew so another large expense, etc, etc.

On the positive side I can work full time on this work I am talking about herein (actually double-time as I am exceeding 16 hours daily when my health cooperates).

Btw, thanks smooth and the others who upvoted that. I feel sort of guilty about it since I want to try to compete or improve Steem via competing. But somehow it will workout for the best I presume. After watching today the video of Dan and Ned (linked upthread), they seem like nice guys to me in the video. I got a different impression of Dan in the past from written or audio communication when I can't see his face. (Edit: I think also he was very stressed out with the former Bitshares governance debacle)

Bottom line is it should all work out for the best. Just need to remain productive and try to do work that benefits the ecosystem.

Btw, on further thought I didn't like the 6 letter domain name I had selected, because although everyone liked it, it had the wrong connotation. It was causing people to think of stalking their favorite artists. So I lost another several hours trying to think of a more appropriate name that is also really catchy. I was lucky to think of one which I think is better than Steemit. And it is 6 letters. So that was a nice accomplishment also for today, but I am bit disappointed that I didn't complete my module.js code today. I put two small JS code fragments up on my Github yesterday. Hopefully my coding will accelerate from now.
4419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steem pyramid scheme revealed on: August 05, 2016, 08:33:53 AM
I believe jl777 is reacting to my criticisms I've been sharing with him about Steem:

Quote from: jl777
Once a new category is established, it would be nice if there was a category fund that can act as a virtual whale for that category. I can think of automated ways where if enough high reputation accounts are upvoting a post in a specific category, the virtual whale upvotes. This automation would put the power in the hands of the dolphins and relieve the whales from having to work 24/7. Also by the whales being less active, their stake is gradually diluted, which helps distribution.
You are apparently not thinking about the game theory of how this can encourage Sybil attacking it for gains. There is a reason the whales are given control with a quadratic weighting, and it is because otherwise all sorts of ways to game the voting system are enabled.

It isn't going to be so easy to fix Steem's voting and ranking algorithms, because it is a fundamental problem.

James and I getting deeper into it:

Quote from: jl777
Please comment on what is proposed, not what you assume is proposed.

I commented on what was proposed in the blog post. I didn't read your comments after you made the blog post.

Quote from: jl777
So let us assume there are N such specialist curators. Now a majority of these curators need to upvote a post with a #trading tag for it to trigger the autowhale upvote.

This seems to be different than what you proposed in the blog post. When you wrote “reputation” in the blog post, it presumably means the reputation system recently implemented which is that number in parenthesis next to our username which is tabulated from vote history not elections.

Okay so now you morphed (or clarified) your proposal to elections of delegates who will control (some portion of) the whales' voting in the instances the majority of them (a quorum) agree.

There are some issues with this:

1. Election of such delegates is political (introduces politically correct speech enforcement, censorship, one-size-fits-all groupthink).
2. If the number of tags (quorums) exceeds the number of whales, hypothetically one could argue this increases the degrees-of-freedom in the rankings, but his also presumes that #1 isn't prevalent, e.g. whales don't effectively influence or control the election process.
3. The individual preferences of curators is bound to the barrier of the majority quorum, so it still isn't a high degree-of-freedom ranking algorithm, i.e. that synergy between spontaneous groupings of like-minded groups will be muted. It seems you are headed towards the politics of Reddit rather than some fundamental breakthough in relevance matching more akin to Googles PageRank and subsequent algorithmic improvements to relevant search.

Radically improving relevance will be a major breakthrough. I don't think your proposal will be that significant of an improvement because it lacks algorithmic power to develop emergent phenomena in relevance and like-mindedness, although it might spread rewards around a little bit better (unless #1 is entirely gamed as it is always is in politics due to the Iron of Political Economics and the power-law distribution of wealth).
4420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone please make a steem clone on: August 05, 2016, 06:59:28 AM
My LinkedIn account is https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenh.

I'll await more details on Postbase before deciding whether to pursue private communication. Good luck with your progress. I wondering if you're part-time while also still holding down your day job.
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