Which crypto is truly anonymous?

[Abiky]

There are several anon coins in crypto land, each with their own unique features such Masternodes, mixing, Tor and i2p integration and many more. However, it is up to debate whenever they are truly anonymous or not. Based on the coins you've tried and experienced with, I would like to know which one of them from the poll would be the one of your choosing that meets the above purpose.

Make sure to make your vote and express your opinion by replying here. 

[DiCE1904]

I would vote for v.cash
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/chainblender.pdf

I do like Anoncoin's i2p integration tho

[Abiky]

I would vote for v.cash
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/chainblender.pdf

I do like Anoncoin's i2p integration tho

Thanks for your reply. Honestly, I have never thought that Vcash would start implementing anonymity features. It seems that it might become a very popular crypto. I'll add this one toward my investment list. 

[bbc.reporter]

I am also interested in the answer of this. I heard that zcash might be the one but it is not online yet. The founder of that is one of the original cypher punks if I have my facts correctly.

[Dink]

At this point.. none of them are.

[kiklo]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

[Abiky]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

Good points. I was concerned about this when using an "anon" cryptocurrency and so I think that until now they are called anonymous just to bring hype and a false impression of it. Still, about the IP address and email address not being anon is a thing that brings me doubt since I've always thought you could use Tor to hide your IP and an email service from the deep web (which you can send messages by using PGP). Or, maybe Tor has been compromised and thus there would be no real anonymity. Just my opinion. 

[Tacalt]

I chose Monero , but only because its all I have been reading about lately and I'm optimistic. Looks like other people chose similarly

[Rockie1234]

Digitalnote lets you send anonymous messages and has untraceable transactions.

You can try it for free since we are doing a guveaway here!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1575551.0

[DiCE1904]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

1. i2p
2. secure browser
3. i2p email address
4. use cash and use the i2p exchange or btc-e
5. a real pickle, i don't think any coin can solve this

[paratox]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

1. i2p
2. secure browser
3. i2p email address
4. use cash and use the i2p exchange or btc-e
5. a real pickle, i don't think any coin can solve this

Hmm I too think thats not something a coin itself can or should solve. I believe there will be a way to deliver stuff without you having to give your address, or that of someone else. The basic technology that could make that happen already exist... but I think it is many years away from actually being a practical thing... so I wouldn't hold my breath.

[kiklo]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

1. i2p
All so-called anon networks , are taped from the inside , they will not protect your IP.

2. secure browser
   , There are no Secure Browsers?, even if it blocked the OS version and which Browser, that information will be recorded. This flags you immediately as someone hiding their info, which means your internet activity will be flagged and you watched even closer.

3. i2p email address
Same Answer as 1.

4. use cash and use the i2p exchange or btc-e
Even Cash is tracked by serial #s and those little chips.
Had a friend in the 1980s, that went on a plane trip , and was pulled aside and questions why he had over $5000 of Cash with him.
My friend had a logical reason and so they released him. But what always bothered him was they did not ask to see the cash, they knew the exact amount he was carrying without ever seeing it. And that was in the 80s.

5. a real pickle, i don't think any coin can solve this

Real Problem is you can't make a transaction or communication with someone or a website , that does not leave some residue of information, that can't be cross referenced by Big Brother to pinpoint you. The day of personal privacy died over 30 years ago.

 

[kiklo]

Good points. I was concerned about this when using an "anon" cryptocurrency and so I think that until now they are called anonymous just to bring hype and a false impression of it. Still, about the IP address and email address not being anon is a thing that brings me doubt since I've always thought you could use Tor to hide your IP and an email service from the deep web (which you can send messages by using PGP). Or, maybe Tor has been compromised and thus there would be no real anonymity. Just my opinion.  

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/06/28/fbi-is-trying-to-hide-their-tor-exploit-for-good/
http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/constitutional-rights/fbi-labled-tor-browser-users-criminals/

FBI and other Government agencies have had access since it was created.
Just between us , the reason the original US Naval Programmer dropped it , was he discovered an underlying flaw , and instead of wasting all of that time and effort , it was released to the public, where criminals would think they were safe but the reverse was true, everything they were doing was being recorded.
It was also a way to get evidence , so they could create a network of intelligence gathering assets from those threaten with jail time, work for me or go to jail is a very compelling argument.

 

[bbc.reporter]

At this point.. none of them are.

That is the right answer.

Cross Referencing Data is the reason why all anon solutions fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

 

1. i2p
2. secure browser
3. i2p email address
4. use cash and use the i2p exchange or btc-e
5. a real pickle, i don't think any coin can solve this

Hmm I too think thats not something a coin itself can or should solve. I believe there will be a way to deliver stuff without you having to give your address, or that of someone else. The basic technology that could make that happen already exist... but I think it is many years away from actually being a practical thing... so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Then there is value to the coin that can solve this. Clearly the solution is something we have not thought of before because most of think that it cannot be solved. I am optimistic that it can because there are brilliant and clever people tackling the problem right now.

[densuj]

Bitcoin is not truly anonymous that is why i need cryptomixer, [banned mixer] is bitcoin mixing services and it is makes me anonymous when i use bitcoin. Even if 0.001 BTC i am keep be anonymous by [banned mixer]

[kiklo]

Bitcoin is not truly anonymous that is why i need cryptomixer, [banned mixer] is bitcoin mixing services and it is makes me anonymous when i use bitcoin. Even if 0.001 BTC i am keep be anonymous by [banned mixer]

 


 

[4x13]

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[Arrakeen]

Presently there are no 100% truly Anonymous Crypto Currencies... But We hope to change that... Keep an eye on Darknet...




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We are running a Giveaway of a custom Stakebox and 10k DNET

Get the details:

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[Rockie1234]

Could you add DigitalNote to this list... encrypted and anonymous messaging.

[meme magic]

None of these are currently anonymous.

They have identity-obscuring features, which are nice, but all of them currently fall embarrassingly short of expectations. Not to say that effort hasn't been well spent, just that if you expect an 'anonymous' currency today, it's not on that list, or any list you could make right at this point.

That said, some on that list are capable of being "truly anonymous", some day, provided they are backed by a community that's willing to comply with a regular hard fork.

This of course requires both having a community and active development.