betcoin.ag did not pay a crystal clear won $380,000 jackpot = criminal offense of fraud and blame it on Betsoft scam gaming software. But I can inform you that betcoin.ag crystal clear owe the jackpot, because 1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players 2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client 3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag 4) The juridical not valid Terms of Service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment Bestsoft can be hold as well liable, because 1) They cooperate with the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam = criminal offense. And when you cooperate with criminals, then you are liable for the damage occured 2) Progressive jackpots that usually run in all online casinosare connected to Betsoft scam gaming software. Hence Betsoft collect the “the Glam Life” jackpot contributions from all connected casinos. If the jackpot hit in casino XY, then Betsoft send the money to XY and XY give the money to the winner.
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The raffles tickets that they hand out is a joke, I think some user just create multiple accounts, sportsbet.io had this issue in the past and they just ignore it until the last raffle draw. They ban some winners and forfeit their winnings.
But why wait until the last raffle draw and take actions?
Because too many people complained. No one except sportsbet.io knows how much money they paid to "foreign" accounts. I assume that a lot of the raffle show accounts are created by sportsbet.io itself. They have a certain budget to spend to customers and the result of the raffle show will be accordingly determinated. Everyone who thinks differently is naive!
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Who owes the jackpot?A) betcoin.ag crystal clear owe the jackpot, because 1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players 2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client 3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag 4) The juridical not valid Terms of Service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment B) The Betsoft scam also owe the jackpot, because 1) They cooperate with the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam = criminal offense. And when you cooperate with criminals, then you are liable for the damage occured 2) Progressive jackpots usually run in all online casinos connected to Betsoft scam gaming software. Hence Betsoft collect the “the Glam Life” jackpot contributions from all connected casinos. If the jackpot hit in casino XY, then Betsoft send the money to XY and XY give the money to the winner.
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So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning SportsBet.io + BitCasino.ioYour warning means jack shit. Oh yes, my warning that sportsbet and bitcasino management embezzled player funds in the Muchos Poker case is of course jack shit, as well as the sun is moon and war is peace! I've played on bitcasino for over two years and never had a single issue with them. While you have no withdrawal issue, 90% of the player funds could be already embezzled! See Online Gaming Embezzlement - General info. Too good to be true promotions create fake money which is not covered by real money! You get run off every other gambling forum you try to promote your "game protect" bullshit on... Game Protect receives over 80% of the traffic thru google and does not rely on to promote on brain wash forums. But we search for and find victims on forums, this is true. Please explain the bullshit of an online gaming consumer protection service? You promoted the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam and still have your meaningless and dumb spelling style, which is a precondition to get accepted for their signature campaign. ...and it goes without saying your trust here is shot lol.
I do not understand what you are saying here, but I have never cheaten anyone! Do you mean that the lies and nonsense posted in my feedback section is proof of my untrustworthy, like the sun is moon and war is peace?
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So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning BitCasino scam
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This is exactly why online gaming needs to be regulated. If online sites were forced to have their software audited to be provably fair, at least something could be done to protect the players. As of now you are basically giving money to a business, hoping they aren't cheating you, and hoping they pay you when you win.
That doesn't even begin to get into the subject of the amount of tax that would be generated and the good things that could be done with this money. (A whole separate reason to regulate online gaming.)
You can not regulate online gaming worldwide! And for the price of 30% tax? Forget it! We offer online gaming consumer protection either cost free or after donations.
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I have heard of them scamming players from their winnings since last summer. I am surprised that their operation hasn't been shut down yet. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Shut down where and by whom? Did you read his original comment? He is surprised that betsoft hasn't shut down, which means that betsoft hasn't been shut down yet. Yes, I read his post and ask him where and by whom Betsoft should have been shut down? If you even do not know who should shut them down, how could you surprised that Betsoft is not shut down?
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I have heard of them scamming players from their winnings since last summer. I am surprised that their operation hasn't been shut down yet. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Shut down where and by whom?
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I'm told it was working after the big "update" a while back. It's also something that they could easily process manually. But I guess they are fine with having two tables of games running...well, actually now it'll be lower because there's no impetus for players to gamestart. What's lower than 2?
So a site doesn't make money from cash games, doesn't make money from tournaments, doesn't have SNGs. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder how they are making money. From the jackpots they do not pay! The unsustainable 100% rakeback and their army of liars here on bitcointalk is to draw the victims in. They do not need a sustainable poker section, they make $100,000s with not paid, but collected jackpots! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I can't comment on the casino or the owner, but casinos can also lose money due to variance. But again, not saying any of the provided info is correct.
Maybe you can enlighten me? Clown-casino pay all jackpots from his pocket. According to TwitchySeal, they exceed $1 million! Therefore Clown-casino has $1 million in his pocket! If you have $1 million in your pocket, why do you look for investors to share your winnings? Do you think Clown-casino's variance, with the few bitcoins deposited, could exceed $1 million?
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His faked NGR1 calculation do not state the slots/jackpot contributions. That is why I assumed these are progressive jackpots: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJZU6Xxr.png&t=663&c=EASlfq26-6GiTA)
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You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. How much revenue will betcoin.ag lose, if I stop posting in this thread? You not trying to jump in with incorrect info (post #23) in order to spam your sigspam would help, in my opinion. Any proof of my "incorrect info"? These are the things that got you kicked off of 2p2, in my opinion. Non existing accounts rarely can get banned. My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible.
How do you plan to hold betcoin.ag liable for what they have done?
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You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal?
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