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4401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sumo betting seems rigged - can you make profit with it? on: June 04, 2021, 11:49:40 PM
Unfortunately Sumo wrestling is not the only real sport to be rigged  Undecided Even highly professional and monitored sports can be rigged as we have learnt today. Yana Sizikova has been arrested yesterday at the French Open Roland Garros and accused to have voluntarily lost a game on purpose during the last French Open Roland Garros in October 2020.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210604-france-detains-russian-tennis-player-over-suspected-match-fixing
4402  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sports - UFC Official Betting Partner - Play Smarter 🥊 on: June 04, 2021, 11:42:10 PM
Providing an extra bonus is a way to make unverified accounts get verified. Initially KYC free, then a variation in bonus based on the account verification. In future things can change, only verified accounts will receive bonus. The gambling platforms always want things to be risk free and that's the reason KYC is getting importance even with the legit ones.
Only verified accounts will receive bonuses? Where have you seen that please Vaskiy? I really doubt your assumption, promotions attract new players, if they aren't available for unverified account, people will go elsewhere since many crypto gambling sites don't require KYC. If it's only a way to prevent bonus abuse, VIP members should be exempted of it then, because you need to wager thousands of dollars to get VIP ranked.  
4403  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 04, 2021, 08:55:24 PM
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Si tu penses vraiment ça tu ne dois pas beaucoup dormir la nuit quand tu ouvres des longs...  Undecided
Si tu es cohérent avec toi-même le marché ne peut que décroître sur le long terme et ses seules augmentations ne peuvent être que des bulles temporaires qui ont vocation à se dégonfler ou à éclater à tout moment lorsque les acteurs du marché se rendent compte du potentiel réel des cryptos. Chaque long est donc hyper risqué.
4404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Augur adds sportsbetting on: June 04, 2021, 08:41:38 PM
I am not familiar with (Augur), but I am familiar with other gambling sites that offer sports betting, especially football.

So I have a little question with Augur if they add soccer betting.
• what does Augur have to offer or advantages over football betting in general, is there anything different from other gambling sites.



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Thanks, I understand now, sorry I thought something was special.
Augur has nothing to do with a traditional sportsbook, odds are not provided by a bookmaker, it's more like a betting exchange or a decentralized mutual betting platform. You can create markets by your own on whatever you want, you've certainly already heard about it if you are a crypto punter, it's a very famous project in the crypto sphere.
4405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - June 6 on: June 04, 2021, 07:43:35 PM
I swear I’ll never watch another Floyd Mayweather fight every time because of his style of running. I always hope this time will be different and he’ll go for the KO. We’ll see…
Never getting a punch is a talent in itself  Grin. With the drama they created with his brother i wont be surprised Floyd Mayweather trying to knock him out but when is the last time Mayweather knocked out anyone  Cheesy.


Connor McGregor got a clean uppercut on Floyd. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility that Logan Paul could do the same. Logan is much bigger than Connor and has been exclusively training to throw punches, so he might have the knockout power Connor didn’t. I think that’s everyone’s hope anyway.
If Logan Paul is able to connect a solid punch in his chin then there is a possibility that he could knock him out because with age the chin might get weaker, but considering the level they are in there is no way Logan Paul will be able to land one punch on Floyd Mayweather.
The last time Floyd Mayweather knocked his opponent was just at his last fight, against Tenshin Nasukawa. And before that, it was just at his penultimate fight, against Conor McGregor. So you shouldn't underestimate the guy I think, he's one of the fastest boxer in the world and could certainly knock out almost every human on earth. If he manages his fight as he did against Nasukawa, the match won't last one single whole round, but I don't think he will do that again. He will certainly let Logan Paul on his feet during one whole round to make the show and to have fun IMO.
4406  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 04, 2021, 04:42:42 PM
Je ne sais pas ce que tu appelles bullshit exactement, mais si ça en était réellement un bitcoin ne vaudrait pas 40 000$ aujourd'hui. De plus en plus de pays étudient la possibilité de créer leur CBDC, si ça se concrétise le changement de paradigme serait quand même assez concret, non?

Etant un initié et sans rentrer dans les détails, je peux vous dire que de très puissantes entreprises européennes travaillent sur les possibilités de la blockchain et développent des projets en interne.

Cela étant dit, je peux vous dire aussi que malgré les différentes personnes brillantes qui travaillent dessus les résultats ne sont pas franchement concluant.

Donc oui il y aura sûrement des projets qui vont aboutir, mais ça sera avant tout marketing. Les CBDC est une vaste blague, jamais de la vie je vais utiliser des CBDC (sauf peut-être pour faire comme L'USDT actuellement) et ça sera le cas pour la quasi-totalité des gens.
Pour les CBDC on en reparlera dans 10 ans... Roll Eyes Si les banques centrales travaillent sur le sujet ce n'est pas pour s'amuser, c'est avant tout parce qu'il n'y a pas de système plus fiable et plus robuste pour échanger de la monnaie. Le système Target et cie est une usine à gaz archaïque, nécessitant des coûts de maintenance astronomique, sans parler du rôle sociétal démesuré qu'il donne aux banques de détail. Tout ça c'est digne du 20eme siècle, les banques centrales veulent un système plus simple, plus citoyen et plus efficient dans sa réponse aux politiques monétaires.   
4407  Economy / Services / Re: 1xbit.com signature campaign (open) on: June 04, 2021, 04:13:02 PM
What's with this campaign, it's been ten days and there's no update on the spreadsheet, I've checked, some posters are already posting others are not, and still waiting for confirmation or the spreadsheet, I am not confident joining a campaign where I cannot access the spreadsheet, maybe the manager will just surprise us next week.
Only one member hasn't posted to date according to the spreadsheet. I don't think anyone won't post because he's not enrolled in a campaign. It would mean he is a spammer posting useless content just to get paid. I hope this is not what you are doing otherwise you could get tagged and blacklisted as spammer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4440941
4408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting to Risk Free Fights on: June 04, 2021, 06:32:36 AM
The risk of losing is always there, even with odds of 1.01  Smiley just don't bet with fear, it's the main factor.

The fun of sports betting is above the risk,I always analyze the data well and if there is a chance to go against the odds, I do bet. Anyway, in your question the feeling is personal, so it's up to you.
That's what I had thought too, pretty sure the risk of losing is the same no matter who is fighting and how the bookies are estimating and deciding their odds for that fighter. I agree that risk is part of the fun but I think another part is the feeling of superiority you feel when your bet is right.
How the risk of losing could be the same when a champion meets a beginner in a tournament and when 2 champions fight against each other? There are obviously less risks to bet on a champion meeting a beginner than to bet on a champion meeting another champion or to bet on a beginner fighting against a champion. So you must take into account the chances of the outcome you are betting on to happen. If you think those chances to happen are bigger than the implied probability of the odds, then you can earn some value.
4409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 03, 2021, 11:56:12 PM
The favorites and old masters, Federer, Djokovic have advanced to the next round and Nadal also looks like he is climbing without any effort. He'll definitely whine a little that his backhand needs to be improved, but that's a high level whine.
Yes they are all very strong but I don't think all the three will be able to qualify to the quarter finals. At the next round (the 4th round) Roger Federer will certainly meet Matteo Berrettini and odds will be low for an easy victory of Roger Federer. It will be very likely a hard fight for him. For Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal the way to reach the quarter finals will be certainly way more easy.
4410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting to Risk Free Fights on: June 03, 2021, 11:46:59 PM
Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50 or would you still rethink if there is an upset like Weili Zhang and Rose Namajunas.  

How about Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, is this a risk free fight to you?



Jairzinho Rozenstruik by the way is the one that did the nasty cuts to Allistair's mouth.
Risk free fights don't exist in sport betting, even when odds are 1.01 or 1.00. The only risk free bets existing are on rigged matchs. So if you want to really get a risk free bet, you need to look for some bonuses or promotions offered by sportsbooks. At Stake for example there will be a risk free bet offered for the next fight of his brand ambassador Israel Adesanya : the main event of UFC263, Adesanya vs Vettori 2. Stakes on an Adesanya victory will be refunded in case of a loss of him.
4411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com announces Israel Adesanya as their Global branded ambassador on: June 03, 2021, 11:40:18 PM
Hello guys, been a while. Our boy is having another fight soon at UFC 263 Main event coming up on June 13 against Marvin Vettori.  Adesanya hasn't had any fight since he lost to Jan Blachowicz in March. According to what I've read so far, it would be a 5-rounds affair in which Adesanya would actively participate to defend his middleweight championship title. This is the perfect opportunity for Adesanya to bounce back from that loss and get back to winning ways so I'm pretty excited.

By the way, Stake team is generous enough to offer a risk free bet on the last style-bender. You will get your stake returned back if Adesanya ends up losing which is unlikely but not impossible. It's a win-win offer, I just wish that the max stake would be increased from $50 to somewhere around $100 or more.

For anyone interested in the promo, see the promo page: https://promotions.stake.com/adesanya-vettori-2/
Hello 50$ is not the max stake you can bet to be eligible to the promotion, it's just the maximum amount that will be refund according to the conditions. So as I understand you can place a bet of 100$ if you want to bet this amount, but in case of a loss of Adesanya, you will "only" receive 50$ and it will be a half-loss bet.

BTW you forgot to name the 3 new Stake ambassadors Alexa Grasso, Marlon Vera and Francis Ngannou.
4412  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 03, 2021, 11:16:21 PM
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No you're wrong RealMalatesta if the price of BTC is going to climb up you won't get the same prizes.

He was probably refering to the 'benefits' rather than 'profit'. Benefits stays the same though

For example prizes of the Wheel of Fortune won't be 5000 sats, RP or lottery tickets anymore but only 3500 instead. That's why if you count in BTC it's better to have a low btc price for as long as possible.

Isnt it pretty much the same, 1 RP = 1 satoshi so eventhough you will receive less than the current reward but the value of it increase so you will receive alot more in term of value. The bad part of it would be with less RP received , means that you will have to collect them a little bit longer until your reach the 100k threshold
No you'll maybe receive the same prize in term of US dollar value but not in term of BTC value. And it's wrong to say you receive "lot more in term of value" when BTC rises, AFAIK you receive exactly the same value in US dollar equivalent because of the correlation of the prizes with BTC price in USD.
4413  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Actu' WTF (c'est quoi ce bordel ?) on: June 03, 2021, 10:50:05 PM
C'est quand même hallucinant. Comment font-ils pour reconnaître les cibles humaines? Ils tirent sur tous les humains ayant un certain type d'uniforme? Les uniformes entre les armées se ressemblent beaucoup parfois, tu dois prier pour qu'il n'y ait pas un bug quand ton armée utilise ce genre de robot.

J'imagine qu'il était en territoire ennemi sans risque d'erreur (ou alors ça deviendrait des victimes collatérales Undecided)


Ça doit faire bizarre de se faire poursuivre par un drone qui veut vous exploser à la gueule. Une sorte de robot kamikaze qui ne craint rien et qui pourra vous esquiver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdlhfMiWVV0&t=1s

Il est assez rapide mais loin d'être plus rapide qu'une balle visiblement, donc les armes à feu restent encore efficaces contre eux. Il parait que l'armée est en train de mettre au point des "fusils" brouilleurs de fréquence et des canons laser pour neutraliser les drones mais je pense qu'un bon vieux fusil à lunette est tout aussi efficace sinon plus.
4414  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 03, 2021, 10:25:47 PM
[...] (donc j'imagine que tu as du faire du benefice en revendant tes crypto..à d autres personnes.... .) [...]

Oui, car j'assume parfaitement cela depuis le départ. Je suis dans les crypto exclusivement pour me faire de l'argent sur le dos des nouveaux entrants, car je ne crois absolument pas à ce nouveau paradigme "crypto", pour moi tout ça c'est du bullshit.

Donc comprend ma surprise de voir un pro-bitcoin avec un avatar d'€ brisé, avoir le même objectif que moi Roll Eyes.
Je ne sais pas ce que tu appelles bullshit exactement, mais si ça en était réellement un bitcoin ne vaudrait pas 40 000$ aujourd'hui. De plus en plus de pays étudient la possibilité de créer leur CBDC, si ça se concrétise le changement de paradigme serait quand même assez concret, non?
4415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 02, 2021, 11:57:09 PM
Serena Williams has been quite impressive today against Mihaela Buzărnescu at the second round of the French Open (6-3, 5-7, 6-1) I think she can reach the final of Roland Garros this year.
4416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: June 02, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
^  Well he did have a good start.  He was undefeated, gifted, good looking and had a good image back then.  But he f*cked it all up in one night.  That’s why the UFC will never ever pay him at the price he wants.  He could’ve been the poster boy of the UFC.

Anyway, everybody should go watch this match again.  It was close between Adesnya and Vettori.  Vettori priced at 3ish maybe slightly more in some books could be value.

UFC Free Fight:  Adesanya vs Vettori 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hhysnRDZM
Thank you for the video,  I hope Adesanya vs Vettori 2 next week for UFC263 will be a little bit more spicy than this one.
At least there will be 2 more rounds, so we can expect a victory without a judges decision. I'm surprised the first bout wasn't entitled as a co-main event while it took place during a fight night (UFC on Fox 29)

Bookmakers are seeing Adesanya as a pretty big favorite @1.38 vs @3.4 for Vettori
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/israel-adesanya-v-marvin-vettori/winner
And there is naturally a promotion from Stake for its ambassador : If Adesanya loses bets on him will be refunded (risk free bet!)

How much is the max bet?  Some people could game the offer by betting on Adesanya and hedge that bet by betting on Vettori at another book or something.

But dunno...  I kinda lean Vettori at 3.4 here.  I think it should be closer.

Edit:  And I lean Walt Harris too.  Not sure what the line is but last time I looked he’s the underdog too.  Tybura is chinny.  Harris has a tendency to explode and go right at it.  Watch Harris vs Overeem. 
The refund is 50$ maximum, and yes you're right it could be a good idea to bet on his opponent on another sportsbook(the promotion doesn't allow to bet on both sides ) but if Adesanya wins you won't make much profit because the bet on Marvin Vettori won't be refunded.


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Conditions:

Pre-match, singles on winner market only
Bet must be placed on Israel Adesanya to win the fight to be eligible for refund
Offer applies to first bet per household
Any player caught multi accounting or abusing will not receive refund
Players backing both sides will also be excluded
Minimum Stake: $10
Max Refund: $50
No Cashed out or voided bets will be eligible
Promo only applies to Israel Adesanya, and not his opponent.
Please allow 48 hours to be credited
Stake reserves the right to not credit any player due to promotion or account abuse
4417  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Actu' WTF (c'est quoi ce bordel ?) on: June 02, 2021, 10:45:00 PM
Un drone autonome abat une cible humaine

https://www.futura-sciences.com/tech/actualites/guerre-futur-drone-autonome-attaque-cible-humaine-87742/


Il manque plus qu'une IA pour les contrôler tous et ça ressemblera à un mélange de Terminator et de Matrix.
C'est quand même hallucinant. Comment font-ils pour reconnaître les cibles humaines? Ils tirent sur tous les humains ayant un certain type d'uniforme? Les uniformes entre les armées se ressemblent beaucoup parfois, tu dois prier pour qu'il n'y ait pas un bug quand ton armée utilise ce genre de robot.
4418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you bet on climbing challenges on: June 02, 2021, 10:40:06 PM
One of the most spectacular yet little known sports is climbing. One of the specialties is indoor competition where the athletes will compete on completing diabolical routes and doing so the fastest. If you have never seen a video, you really should.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aurno28Q4cA

There are many other options for betting, such a certain climbing finishing a certain route or climbing a certain mountain. The stars of this sport, both male and female, frequently declare their intentions of climbing routes and it is a open ground for bets. Is there already any place to bet on climbing competitions or challenges that you know of?
I didn't know it was possible to bet on this sport.Which sportsbook are you using to bet on that? Do you know some crypto sportsbook offering markets on this sport?
4419  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 02, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
I personally do not believe that we should be sad about the fun token value dropping, because let's say you have 500 of them and have more of rights, well you still have that.
Better to buy more, different with the exchange, the user gets more benefit if buys more and holds with the period. I actually want the price going to drop which I can buy more FUN and spin WOF at least 5x each day.
I didn't mean stay that way, all I was saying is that when the price of fun token drops that is not a sad thing because we still have the same right and that is what it should be what we want for.

Some people are acting as if fun token is something you should buy low and sell high and make a profit that way but it is not like that, sure maybe that could be done I am not sure but that is not the reason why it exists at all, the real reason is to integrate that with freebitcoin and that is what we want to see more of. With lower price or higher price the same fun token amount gives the same amount of profit and that's it, so if you have 5000 tokens doesn't matter if you paid 1 satoshi or 1 bitcoin it is still the same.
No you're wrong RealMalatesta if the price of BTC is going to climb up you won't get the same prizes. For example prizes of the Wheel of Fortune won't be 5000 sats, RP or lottery tickets anymore but only 3500 instead. That's why if you count in BTC it's better to have a low btc price for as long as possible.
4420  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 02, 2021, 05:37:08 PM
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