The difference here is that LC started off dishonest right from the start. Straight up scam vs legit business followed by scam. I don't see how ego factors in there...
Huge, critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business. The ego comes into play when peoples' failed scam accusations against legit companies must increasingly rely on definitions of scam so broad as to be without meaning. We don't know WTF happened to AM/FC. It's China, so anything (Mongolians!) is possible (aliens?). For all we know the LC guys started off with legit intentions and then realized there was no way they could deliver a few weeks into the process. It's not important to me how long someone has good intentions right before they turned the corner and decided to run off with the money. I don't think anyone has much good will toward Karpeles or Danny Brewster (Neo&Bee) for their original intentions, under the assumption that they started off legit. OIC, you were one of those "LABCOIN? seems legit" people. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'll refrain from mentioning what a fair bit of the forum labels you, sir. A fair bit of the forum can't tell the critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business. The 'Did they make a chip?' test is a pretty good way to tell if a chip company is legit.
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The difference here is that LC started off dishonest right from the start. Straight up scam vs legit business followed by scam. I don't see how ego factors in there...
Huge, critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business. The ego comes into play when peoples' failed scam accusations against legit companies must increasingly rely on definitions of scam so broad as to be without meaning. We don't know WTF happened to AM/FC. It's China, so anything (Mongolians!) is possible (aliens?). For all we know the LC guys started off with legit intentions and then realized there was no way they could deliver a few weeks into the process. It's not important to me how long someone has good intentions right before they turned the corner and decided to run off with the money. I don't think anyone has much good will toward Karpeles or Danny Brewster (Neo&Bee) for their original intentions, under the assumption that they started off legit. OIC, you were one of those "LABCOIN? seems legit" people. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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His screenname is pretty apt too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The key to keeping big rollers interested in these sites seems to be to not limit the trade size too drastically, which seems fine with the current settings. Holy shit! That really sucks for that dude, as much as Monerodice is a great website, people reallllyyy should not be gambling. Maybe he thought "Go Big or go into Dev-Fund" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And that's how Monerodice got its motto... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The odd doughnut (GMO or not) with Dad on special occasions is harmless. Your "poison the kids" hyperbole is ridiculous. He's an MD, FFS.
He goes there frequently (so the "poison" comment is not "ridiculous"), and I was surprised myself. Please, check the actual speech if you do not believe me. First you said "when he has spare time" and now it's "frequently." As if doctors/Senators have loads of spare time... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly are doughnuts poison? Are you one of those anti-sugar crusaders or what? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Doughnuts are fine as long as you burn the calories. Any food is poison for couch potatoes. Last I saw, Rand's kids are not even remotely pre-diabetic (even *if* Dr. Paul and Kelly let them get fat, grandpa would put the hammer down). I get organic raised-yeast doughnuts most every weekend. OMG they are so good!!!! Still haven't been poisoned....not that I would care.... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) First you said "when he has spare time" and now it's "frequently." As if doctors/Senators have loads of spare timeYes, in 2012 he spoke as if it was a regular event (if my memory is correct), and now I would think his calendar is a bit over-loaded. Doughnuts are fine as long as you burn the calories.(re: "Standard", not "organic" junk food) 'Bleached' white flour with an overdose of processed white sugar? Sorry, but... You & Rand both seem to have a need to learn more about nutrition: 1) The max number of calories you can burn from exercise is very limited, especially when compared to the amount of empty calories you can quickly consume eating low-nutrient foods. 2) When in doubt, refer to #1. And how exactly are doughnuts poison? Are you one of those anti-sugar crusaders or what? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) My diet isn't always great, but it is vital to know about "nutrient density". 'Nasty tasting' foods like kale and romaine lettuce (& some great ones like fresh berries, mushrooms, onions, etc.) are rich in things your body needs. If you eat mostly junk (like most Americans), then (in most cases) no amount of exercise can repair the damage. Question: Are you aware of the dramatic increase in (the % rates of) cancer, diabetes, and heart disease in America over the last 100 years? Doughnuts are not the cause of the rise in the aliments you've listed. A couple of fresh doughnuts isn't going to hurt a healthy person.
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The difference here is that LC started off dishonest right from the start. Straight up scam vs legit business followed by scam. I don't see how ego factors in there...
Huge, critical difference (not "slight") between intending to scam vs intending to start a legit business. The ego comes into play when peoples' failed scam accusations against legit companies must increasingly rely on definitions of scam so broad as to be without meaning. We don't know WTF happened to AM/FC. It's China, so anything (Mongolians!) is possible (aliens?).
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iCEBREAKER: You are insane.
At least I understand the difference between moderation and censorship.
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report to the police, this is an international network of fraud case.
Thank goodness! The BITCOIN POLICE are on the case! Well that turned out exactly as expected. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Only slightly different than AM, Hashfast, GAW, Asicminer, etc No, huge difference. AM and HF actually made chips, and (I think) GAW actually sold miners. A scam is not the same thing as an unsuccessful venture. EG, Atari went bankrupt but it was not a scam. Ditto for 3dfx. IDK why this concept is so extraordinarily difficult for so many people here to understand. I believe ego may be a factor...
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I finished my math excercies and bought almost 8000 XMR more.
I have to admit, I like the "new" you. Way better like this! Plot twist: TC is buying on margin. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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in that case you should deleet the whole iCEBREAKER fake posts ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Some of his posts were on-topic and kept. Many were deleted. I think this is enough for meta discussion One of my on-topic posts (wherein I mocked your belief people would actually submit proof of stake signatures) was deleted. Why is that?
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The odd doughnut (GMO or not) with Dad on special occasions is harmless. Your "poison the kids" hyperbole is ridiculous. He's an MD, FFS.
He goes there frequently (so the "poison" comment is not "ridiculous"), and I was surprised myself. Please, check the actual speech if you do not believe me. First you said "when he has spare time" and now it's "frequently." As if doctors/Senators have loads of spare time... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly are doughnuts poison? Are you one of those anti-sugar crusaders or what? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Doughnuts are fine as long as you burn the calories. Any food is poison for couch potatoes. Last I saw, Rand's kids are not even remotely pre-diabetic (even *if* Dr. Paul and Kelly let them get fat, grandpa would put the hammer down). I get organic raised-yeast doughnuts most every weekend. OMG they are so good!!!! Still haven't been poisoned....not that I would care.... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Hope it's hashtagged #dependencyhell ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) *picture cut, look up*
Cool new flowchart that was posted on Twitter.
Luckily, we don't have to worry about #dependencyhell because none of that steaming pile of 'features' actually works, much less does anything useful. You might be missing the point here, iCE, those aren't Nxt or SuperNET features. The flowchart is a breakdown of the relationships between various Nxt/SuperNET-based assets and projects, so it's more like a map to the Nxt ecosystem. Most of these projects/Assets/DACs are working fine: paying out dividends, funding businesses and producing more technology. Here's an overview of Nxt features: https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Current_Featuresand http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/ As those assets are interlocking, they may be in the computer science sense considered functions. Hence, dependency hell. If one breaks, they all break. That's why most of us prefer to keep things simple and fight bloat, rather than launching some new gimmicky asset-feature every time we smoke a cigarette.
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What good is Coinify's support for XT? Aren't they a day late and a dollar short? What difference, at this point, does it make?
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Rand Paul Slams Mandatory GMO Labeling As Attack On The PoorPresidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul slammed mandatory labeling of genetically modified organisms (GMO) on the campaign trail in Iowa, telling reporters GMO labeling will hit the poorest hardest. Paul was on the road trying to drum up support for what is widely being seen as a lackluster campaign when he was asked about a bill that would prevent states from enacting mandatory labeling of GMOs. The bi-partisan Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act has been a source of controversy in the agricultural sector, but has also received a strong backlash from a slew of anti-GMO celebrities. “The labeling requirements are enormously expensive and just add to the cost of foods. Somebody who is poor can’t buy as much food because of requiring labels to be stuck on things,” Paul told Agri-Pulse. Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/rand-paul-slams-mandatory-gmo-labeling-as-attack-on-the-poor/#ixzz3lmF38hda Truth in labeling is consistent with libertarian anti-fraud principles. If I buy something sold to me as an "apple" I don't expect it will have fish genes or some other non-apple shit in it. Selling a FrankenApple as a plain old apple is false advertising. Ditto for FrankenBeef and FrankenMilk. Rand should be more worried about why it took so fucking long for farmers/ranchers to be "allowed" to inform consumers their products are non-gmo. http://www.provisioneronline.com/articles/99276-usda-approves-label-for-non-gmo-meat-productsRand is wrong on this one; I bet Kelly feeds their kids organic stuff from Whole Foods and the farmer's market. However, I think we'd agree these issues should be settled at the state or regional level, not by FedGov and WTO-type international law. Whole Foods? ...well maybe: Actually, Rand takes the younger Paul's to his favorite doughnut shop to poison the kids when he has the spare time. Source? == Check his 2012 convention speech, he is rather proud of the hard-working people who serve crap to his family. I said I'd bet *KELLY* feeds their kids organic stuff from Whole Foods and the farmer's market. The odd doughnut (GMO or not) with Dad on special occasions is harmless. Your "poison the kids" hyperbole is ridiculous. He's an MD, FFS.
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Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories. OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little. Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy. The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons. That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try). Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.
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Wow, that is one mad bro! Aquentin's epic butthurt is as hilarious as his bitter tears of rage are delicious. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Three cheers for Mighty Thermos, Benevolent Dictator of BTCtalk and r/bitcoin! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
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"BIP000" belligerence
BIP000 is just the natural expression of Bitcon's Honey Badger "don't a shit what you say" philosophy reflected in the domain of blocksize debating. Face it, XT got #REKT. The Gavinistas can't even keep their fail-nodes and fail-pools up, but expected us to hand them the keys to Satoshi's Kingdom? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) G.T.F.O. noob! Go play with the other losers at bitco.in or voat/v/bitcoinxt. (Just kidding, we value your flailings for their entertainment value.)
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Rand Paul Slams Mandatory GMO Labeling As Attack On The PoorPresidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul slammed mandatory labeling of genetically modified organisms (GMO) on the campaign trail in Iowa, telling reporters GMO labeling will hit the poorest hardest. Paul was on the road trying to drum up support for what is widely being seen as a lackluster campaign when he was asked about a bill that would prevent states from enacting mandatory labeling of GMOs. The bi-partisan Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act has been a source of controversy in the agricultural sector, but has also received a strong backlash from a slew of anti-GMO celebrities. “The labeling requirements are enormously expensive and just add to the cost of foods. Somebody who is poor can’t buy as much food because of requiring labels to be stuck on things,” Paul told Agri-Pulse. Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/rand-paul-slams-mandatory-gmo-labeling-as-attack-on-the-poor/#ixzz3lmF38hda Truth in labeling is consistent with libertarian anti-fraud principles. If I buy something sold to me as an "apple" I don't expect it will have fish genes or some other non-apple shit in it. Selling a FrankenApple as a plain old apple is false advertising. Ditto for FrankenBeef and FrankenMilk. Rand should be more worried about why it took so fucking long for farmers/ranchers to be "allowed" to inform consumers their products are non-gmo. http://www.provisioneronline.com/articles/99276-usda-approves-label-for-non-gmo-meat-productsRand is wrong on this one; I bet Kelly feeds their kids organic stuff from Whole Foods and the farmer's market. However, I think we'd agree these issues should be settled at the state or regional level, not by FedGov and WTO-type international law.
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What actually is the mixer means? As i haven't heard this before so i came to this thread but after reading all post i can't get any clue about what the mixer is actually. If anybody don't mind to explain me can you?
Mixer is essentially this 1) You send bitcoins to an address(from the bitcoin mixer service) 2) After the payment is recieved in the address, the service sends you your btc to your 2nd address through a completely random address. Of course this is just the simplified version of it, most mixer noawadays provide many customizations for added privacy. As as you can probably guess, people do it to hide their tracks that people can track through their transactions. Step 0) You make the brave decision to trust a third party won't steal your coins, isn't a honeypot, and isn't compromised by hackers/TLAs.
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With vanishing volume
Volume is a bad indicator for 100% PoS coin because there are no miners who need to sell coins to pay electricity bills. Funny that you forgot this. Or maybe you didn't... That means that the price decline is an indicator of flawed fundamentals. This would be good with a stable and/or increasing price. Great point! Even given NXT's Ponzi-like staking 'feature' people still don't want to buy in and hold bags. #REKT
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There is reason why the Genesis Block mentions a second round of bank bailouts instead of, oh say, debit/credit surcharges for small purchases at Starbucks.
Satoshi created Bitcoin to stop command economy BS like bank bailouts, not because he was charged fifty cents extra for using his AMEX to buy a latte.
Uppercase-B Bitcoin (or lowercase in Szabo notation) the first viable and most secure ecash competes with gold and central banks.
Lowercase-b bitcoin (or uppercase in Szabo notation) the blockchain technology competes with Visa/Paypal/Square (via altcoins).
Bitcoin is global revolution against authoritarianism, not the next fucking Dwolla.
well that's what you say ... It is clear to me that he thinks his techno solves several problems at the same time. There is a reason why he used the abstract & introduction of his whitepaper NOT to speak about bailouts but small transactions. You might say he was wrong or the bailouts problem is more important ( which i agree ) but you won't change the fact that Satoshi's vision is also about a global payment system for casual transaction. I think the monetary policy is a much more political problem whereas the small transaction is consensual, everybody wants to pay less fees. It is a much better introduction to keep everybody on board for the next 15 pages of his white paper. When Bitcoin was just a tiny baby and hardly anyone used it, micro-tx were feasible. There was a thing called SatoshiDice, which used the blockchain as its payment rail for trivial gambling. But then Bitcoin grew up and up and up. Bitcoin grew so big that SatoshiDice-type things didn't fit on its increasingly valuable/popular blockchain. And now, with a multi-billion-dollar marketcap, technological maturity, and marketplace acceptance, Bitcoin's different aspects have been thrown into sharp relief and bifurcated in application. That's why Szabo also uses the big-B/little-b (protocol/ecash) distinction. "Eventually" (perhaps Soon), micro-tx will return to BTC, after SC/LN makes them again feasible. I hope explaining all this to you like you are five years old has helped you understand more. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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